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Old 09-15-2013, 09:46 PM   #1
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Hey guys I'm pretty new at this so I don't wanna sound dumb but I've been having this issue and can't seem to find a thread with anyone actually giving an answer to what the problem might be..... I have a 2003 wrx with 138k basically stock and as I turn the key to start it, the engine turns over immediately but it sometimes makes a grinding noise as if I turned the key while the car was already on. It goes for a split second then disappears. It happens intermittently so it's hard to document on video. Happened the other day, it was about 65 degrees out. Seems like it happens more often the colder it is but has happened before when it was 90 degrees out. Any thoughts? I appreciate it.
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:25 PM   #2
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I always had this happen to my 02 wrx when the weather got cold. I always assumed it was the "actuator" in the starter getting stuck for a moment when it was cold. Never caused a problem so I never took the time to actually diagnose it but it was kind of annoying.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:05 PM   #3
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Good to know for sure. Shoot I hope it stays that way and not saying you're wrong but I feel like there's gotta be a definite answer to it haha
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:33 PM   #4
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Its something with your starter most likely. Make sure the bolts that secure it are tight. The solenoid may also be going bad. While you're there check the teeth on the flywheel for wear.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:38 PM   #5
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Okay I'll check those. But the solenoid...how do I know it's bad? What do I look for? And idk if this is dumb to say but my flywheel should be okay. I got it resurfaced when I got the clutch replaced ~10,000 miles ago. Plus I'm not that good under the hood yet so to speak.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:44 PM   #6
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It's the bendix drive on the starter catching the ring gear, mine does this as well.
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:45 PM   #7
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It's the bendix drive on the starter catching the ring gear, mine does this as well.
So is it a bad thing or what? Haha
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:59 PM   #8
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Starter is just old mine has 160k on it if I can remember, it'll eventually become toast. Thank God they are easy to replace and don't weight a ton
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:56 AM   #9
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I thought i was the only one with this issue. I get the problem too always in the winter though. Grinding like the OP described after the engine turns over. As far as i know the starter has never been replaced in my car (169k) . I was scared it had something to do with the weight of oil im using in the winter and my internals.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:55 AM   #10
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My 02 has been doing this on and off for the last 6 months or so, good to know I'm not the only one... it actually did it again this morning.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:33 PM   #11
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Mine had the same thing, just got it replaced and bam, no grind
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Old 10-02-2013, 03:27 PM   #12
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I have also read that low battery voltage/amperage can cause this as well, if your battery is old it could be a factor.

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Old 10-02-2013, 08:24 PM   #13
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Mine had the same thing, just got it replaced and bam, no grind
You got your starter replaced?
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:56 AM   #14
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I feel like this grinding noise has been getting worse lately, does anyone else have input or should I just go ahead and try replacing the starter?
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:11 PM   #15
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I feel like this grinding noise has been getting worse lately, does anyone else have input or should I just go ahead and try replacing the starter?
Mine got worse and I replaced the starter. Now it starts like a brand new engine. I recommend doing this.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:03 PM   #16
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Mine does this as well. Just replace the starter and all will be good. I'll get around to doing mine when I find a good free unit haha. Don't always have to buy stuff.
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:49 PM   #17
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I have a 02 and 03 wrx and both do it on cold weather start ups, I've been told it's the release bearing, does goes away if you put load on it.
Don't need to worry about it
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I know this is an old post....

Here's a crappy video of my car starting up. I held my phone outside the drivers door towards the ground. The sound is actually louder inside the car (coming from the location of the starter).

https://youtu.be/hUKkrnRQb_4

The noise only happens every now and then and it's usually cold outside (20 degrees) and my car is not warmed up.

My WRX has 150,000 miles and I'm pretty sure it's the OEM starter. Seems like the best place to start is to replace the starter?
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I know this is an old post....

Here's a crappy video of my car starting up. I held my phone outside the drivers door towards the ground. The sound is actually louder inside the car (coming from the location of the starter).

https://youtu.be/hUKkrnRQb_4

The noise only happens every now and then and it's usually cold outside (20 degrees) and my car is not warmed up.

My WRX has 150,000 miles and I'm pretty sure it's the OEM starter. Seems like the best place to start is to replace the starter?
Seems to be a regular thing, my '04 sounds just like your video, but only on cold days after I have let the car set for a days. I'd say its only done that about 3 times this whole summer. If it gets worse, i'll probably try replacing the starter as recommended above.
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:33 AM   #20
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Seems to be a regular thing, my '04 sounds just like your video, but only on cold days after I have let the car set for a days. I'd say its only done that about 3 times this whole summer. If it gets worse, i'll probably try replacing the starter as recommended above.
Thanks aaron97 ! Glad to hear it isn't just me. I'll keep monitoring it.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:49 PM   #21
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My 02 also does this.It has a weird delay when i turn the key and then after i have let go of the key it keeps trying to start even though the engine is now running.Its embarrassing when it happens at work on cold days.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:57 PM   #22
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To confirm it is starter related. I replaced my starter and the noise is non existent at all now.

I would get that noise routinely for the last 3 years when temps started to drop around 50* F or lower. The starter never left me stranded so i doubt it was a case of the starter completely taking a crap but, it was the starter non-theless.
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Old 01-06-2016, 01:09 PM   #23
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Thanks for all the awesome feedback everyone! I am planning on replacing my starter with a new one soon. I live in western NC and it's pretty cold this time of the year, so I'll let everyone know if replacing the starter solved the problem on my vehicle.

Cheers!
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Old 01-06-2016, 11:58 PM   #24
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Funny thing is, my car hasn't done this for weeks, then coincidentally after posting in this thread about, it did it again this morning. It was about 53 this morning.

Good to know just replacing the starter will fix this.
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:20 PM   #25
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Wow...this was awesome to find!
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