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Old 09-19-2013, 08:46 PM   #26
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You seem to be mixing up the words you learned in logic 101 into your argument to justify ignorant claims.
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Old 09-19-2013, 08:48 PM   #27
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You seem to be mixing up the words you learned in logic 101 into your argument to justify ignorant claims.
How so?
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Old 09-19-2013, 09:04 PM   #28
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Thanks everyone.
I'm just paranoid because of all the engine failures posted (might be a minority)
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:04 PM   #29
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What's laughable is your ignorance. It's not a valid opinion, it's just an opinion, and an idiotic one at that. Your life is clearly a joke... Sad little person.
I apologize. I had no idea the car defined you as a man. It's is the epitome of masculine... I can tell from your posting that your life is amazing and filled with great amounts of manliness. And I am sad and small. I'm glad you took the time to attack me personally today. It shows your exceptional life skills and superiority. Thank you.
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:52 PM   #30
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Thanks everyone.
I'm just paranoid because of all the engine failures posted (might be a minority)
Here is how I sum this up. The wrx has been around in the US for some time now. Quite a few of them have been through a few owners and even more have no doubt been through some ignorant and uneducated owners at that. People seeking to make things better and faster with really no real understanding of how things work to begin with. The inherent design of this engine also plays against the longevity of the car. Ever call a dealership and ask how much it costs for what would be considered "routine maintenance" on most cars? $200+ to change spark plugs?! I as quoted $2,000+ to adjust the valves on my 04 and that was assuming it only needed adjustment on the exhaust side! People would rather skip things like this and bolt on a blow off valve, a boost controller, downpipe, etc and have a quicker car. How many times have I seen missing "pills" in the wastegate line? These guys are driving around not even seeing 7-8lbs of boost and have no clue that's not normal!

My point is these cars, most often, have been excessively molested. Many are quickly "put back to stock" incorrectly an neglected on routine maintenance for the reasons I posted above. This is the main cause, in my opinion, of these engine failures. Everyone wants to go fast for the least amount of money and to hell with changing the plugs, the oil, timing belt , clutch, etc. maybe you bolted up a larger turbo but had no clue your injectors were already maxed out with the stock unit or just didn't care. Too many factors that can and do lead to failure...
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:55 PM   #31
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Here is how I sum this up. The wrx has been around in the US for some time now. Quite a few of them have been through a few owners and even more have no doubt been through some ignorant and uneducated owners at that. People seeking to make things better and faster with really no real understanding of how things work to begin with. The inherent design of this engine also plays against the longevity of the car. Ever call a dealership and ask how much it costs for what would be considered "routine maintenance" on most cars? $200+ to change spark plugs?! I as quoted $2,000+ to adjust the valves on my 04 and that was assuming it only needed adjustment on the exhaust side! People would rather skip things like this and bolt on a blow off valve, a boost controller, downpipe, etc and have a quicker car. How many times have I seen missing "pills" in the wastegate line? These guys are driving around not even seeing 7-8lbs of boost and have no clue that's not normal!

My point is these cars, most often, have been excessively molested. Many are quickly "put back to stock" incorrectly an neglected on routine maintenance for the reasons I posted above. This is the main cause, in my opinion, of these engine failures. Everyone wants to go fast for the least amount of money and to hell with changing the plugs, the oil, timing belt , clutch, etc. maybe you bolted up a larger turbo but had no clue your injectors were already maxed out with the stock unit or just didn't care. Too many factors that can and do lead to failure...
You also read only horror stories online.
For every one ruined there are thirty that get on great and some that don't even go online. It's not that it doesn't happen all the time, it's that nobody cares to post it or read it.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:26 PM   #32
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You're making me want to get my car serviced!
I don't know **** really.
I know how cars work. I can change my oil, swap suspension, change fluids etc but I dont know my car like that. I'd rather pay some money for my baby.

Aside from the annoying abnormal noises, I love my car. Especially the 5 star frontal rating.

I'd really love to keep my car.
Id be satisfied with a 16g Evo iii turbo supporting mods. But then the transmission. It wouldn't be worth it IMO to swap a 6 speed or get new gears. Also, new gears does not fix the weak case anyway. You'd be spending more money than it would cost to have an STi.

I wouldn't want to have to sell my car and get an STi. If it came down to that, i'd get a different car.

If I can upgrade to a 16g reliably as long as I do routine maintenance, and not break my trans, id be one happy Subaru enthusiast. I just hope the engine wouldn't fail and I can drive my 5 speed right.

My car does seem abused. I bought it with blown struts and there was a turbo timer that only lit up but wasn't functioning. That is already a red flag with having a turbo timer alone.
The car also burns oil unless I use 10w-40.

I'm planning to get a leak down and compression test soon. I'll go from there.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:30 PM   #33
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1. Buy a 1994 toyota supra
2. Insert a 2jz-gte with the getrack 6 speed tranny

3.tune
4.enjoy
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:36 PM   #34
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You're making me want to get my car serviced!
I don't know **** really.
I know how cars work. I can change my oil, swap suspension, change fluids etc but I dont know my car like that. I'd rather pay some money for my baby.

Aside from the annoying abnormal noises, I love my car. Especially the 5 star frontal rating.

I'd really love to keep my car.
Id be satisfied with a 16g Evo iii turbo supporting mods. But then the transmission. It wouldn't be worth it IMO to swap a 6 speed or get new gears. Also, new gears does not fix the weak case anyway. You'd be spending more money than it would cost to have an STi.

I wouldn't want to have to sell my car and get an STi. If it came down to that, i'd get a different car.

If I can upgrade to a 16g reliably as long as I do routine maintenance, and not break my trans, id be one happy Subaru enthusiast. I just hope the engine wouldn't fail and I can drive my 5 speed right.

My car does seem abused. I bought it with blown struts and there was a turbo timer that only lit up but wasn't functioning. That is already a red flag with having a turbo timer alone.
The car also burns oil unless I use 10w-40.

I'm planning to get a leak down and compression test soon. I'll go from there.
I always get a kick out of that. You ever wonder why there is that coolant tank over by the turbo? Ever wonder why the cap pressure rating is different than the radiator? I'd bet the majority of people didn't even know they were different ratings, much less what its for. There is actually a service bulletin from subaru explaining how the system works and why there is no need to put a turbo timer on these cars, thing is, having that turbo timer makes you twice as cool and so people just gotta have em!

Before you mod the car it's always a good idea to know the condition of the engine. Since I am a mechanic by trade, I felt confident that I could handle the maint when I bought my high mileage car. Take care of it and it will last, as with most cars.

Transmission failures I think are largely attributed to people dropping the clutch off the line to get that sweet launch. Sure is fun, I'll admit. Eventually the driveline shock is going to make something upset, and its even more likely as you raise the power production of the engine... Don't abuse the hell out of it and I'm sure with the mods you listed it should be fine.

Remember, an sti is much much more then just more horsepower and another gear. Brakes, suspension, larger displacement, different gearing, it makes for a whole package. I honestly don't think you could turn a wrx into an sti for less then the difference in purchase price. The big catch for me was the insurance. Considerably more for the sti.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:37 PM   #35
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But insert LS1 for 2jz-gte

And instead of supra, use a miata or rx7.

Less money.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:38 PM   #36
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1. Buy a 1994 toyota supra
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Supras are very nice. You can make ridiculous power on the stock block. They still fetch a premium price these days however.
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Old 09-20-2013, 12:09 AM   #37
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I always get a kick out of that. You ever wonder why there is that coolant tank over by the turbo? Ever wonder why the cap pressure rating is different than the radiator? I'd bet the majority of people didn't even know they were different ratings, much less what its for. There is actually a service bulletin from subaru explaining how the system works and why there is no need to put a turbo timer on these cars, thing is, having that turbo timer makes you twice as cool and so people just gotta have em! Before you mod the car it's always a good idea to know the condition of the engine. Since I am a mechanic by trade, I felt confident that I could handle the maint when I bought my high mileage car. Take care of it and it will last, as with most cars. Transmission failures I think are largely attributed to people dropping the clutch off the line to get that sweet launch. Sure is fun, I'll admit. Eventually the driveline shock is going to make something upset, and its even more likely as you raise the power production of the engine... Don't abuse the hell out of it and I'm sure with the mods you listed it should be fine. Remember, an sti is much much more then just more horsepower and another gear. Brakes, suspension, larger displacement, different gearing, it makes for a whole package. I honestly don't think you could turn a wrx into an sti for less then the difference in purchase price. The big catch for me was the insurance. Considerably more for the sti.
Yeah I figure the difference in price would be cheaper than building the WRX to be up to par. I'm not willing to pay too much for insurance, though.

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Supras are very nice. You can make ridiculous power on the stock block. They still fetch a premium price these days however.
The newer Supra is my dream car.
$40,000 yikes. I want one.
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:29 AM   #38
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Supras are very nice. You can make ridiculous power on the stock block. They still fetch a premium price these days however.
Yeah in my area in montreal the well built one's goes for 25k and up and the stock one's starts at 12k with automatic transmission and non turbo...

Just the 6speed transmission with the getrack is like 4-5k alone...
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:45 AM   #39
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I decided to post my .02 on the 2.0L WRX

Keep in mind all of the Subaru World Rally cars (I think even the new USA rally cars) use the 2.0L engine (granted its highly modified).

Also if you can keep your foot from stomping on the smile pedal all of the time you will get much better gas mileage than the 2.5L. Actually you will probably get better mileage than any other 300+whp car. On long trips when my girlfriend drives my car will average 29mpg.

This is my setup, that I have been beating the out of for over 50k.
Do the Mods right and keep with with the maintenance and these cars will last you a long time.

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-Deadbolt TD-05 7cm 18g turbo (Ported and Polished/Ceramic Coated)
-TurboXS Front Mount Intercooler
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-Walboro 255lph fuel pump
-Perrin Electronic Boost Control Solenoid
-Helix Downpipe (Hi-Flow Cat)
-Surewin V2 Catback Exhaust
-GFB BPV
-TGV Delete
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-Samco Turbo Inlet
-IAG V-Band External Wastegate Uppipe
-Tial 38mm External Wastegate
-Protuned by IAG

-BC Racing BR Series Coilovers
-24mm Whiteline Front Swaybar
-24mm Whiteline Rear Swaybar (Adjustable)
-Whiteline Heavy Duty Front Endlinks
-Whiteline Heavy Duty Rear Endlinks
-Front Strut Tower Brace
-Rear Strut Tower Brace
-Cross drilled brake rotors

-2006 STi 6-Speed Transmission
-Exedy OEM Clutch
-Kartboy Short Shifter
-Kartboy Shifter Bushings
-DCCD Pro

...however I am having a boost fluctuation problem and I am leaking quite a lot of oil (I think valve cover gaskets).
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:51 AM   #40
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If your gonna get a z.. Get the 370... I have seen them bone stock run high 12s/low 13s at 107-110 mph...

Autos as well and have seen a few dyno at there rated hp..
They are a totally different animal than the 350s..

Again but if you do get a 350 get the last year model its a rapist vs the earlier models as well
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:54 AM   #41
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OP My mod list is quite long and currently I'm working... but my 03 WRX has 151k+ (mostly highway), it was stage 2 for a long time (19 psi taper to 14 at RL).... now I'm running a TD05-16G with no issues whatsoever (19.5 psi taper to 16 at RL). Long story short, keep up with maintenance and you'll be fine. I almost redline my car daily....
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:52 PM   #42
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F-body. Any since 1993 will make 400whp easy.

I know. I spent 20 years with them.

You will not find a cheaper/faster drag car.

350z is an ugly queer car with a huge ass. At least get a 370z. They at least look now like they should have originally.
I second that, those 350z's are not something to write home about. Also agree on the fox body's, thats what i would invest in if building a project/drag beast.
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Old 09-20-2013, 04:56 PM   #43
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What's laughable is your ignorance. It's not a valid opinion, it's just an opinion, and an idiotic one at that. Your life is clearly a joke... Sad little person.
U realize u called your opinion an IDIOTIC one right. Urrr madddd dumb!
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:40 PM   #44
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U realize u called your opinion an IDIOTIC one right. Urrr madddd dumb!
Clearly you need to revisit the basics of spelling, grammar, and reading comprehension.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:45 PM   #45
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Id like the 370z but not anytime soon with my skimpy wage.

I'd like to build my engine with upgraded parts.
Do u guys think if I go to Subaru meets and get to know people, I'd end up someday meeting someone willing to teach me how to work on Subarus inside and out?

I could take auto mechanics but I don't think id learn from it as I would from something hands on and supervised. Someone who has tips and tricks.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:24 PM   #46
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Quick off topic question : how many psi can a vf39 hold at max ?? Im currently running 15 psi wanting to go 18 is that safe?

Sorry for thread hijack.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:55 PM   #47
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sell it....get the 350...you be happy
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:00 PM   #48
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Quick off topic question : how many psi can a vf39 hold at max ?? Im currently running 15 psi wanting to go 18 is that safe?

Sorry for thread hijack.
Y 18and not 22?
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:35 PM   #49
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[quote="super_usdm;40632397"] Clearly you need to revisit the basics of spelling, grammar, and reading comprehension.[/QUOT

Come again.
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:38 PM   #50
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if you are worried about the reliability of a car as you modify it. you should neither be driving that car, nor modifying it.


once you break into a car. You break the factory specs on it. You start ****ing with the reliability. Any tuner or mechanic here know's that. doesnt stop some. I know my subaru will be less reliable when i put the high compression pistons in. That's why I wont do it with my daily.

and if you are afraid in general the motor will blow.. tell me why did you buy it in the first place?
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