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Old 09-26-2013, 03:02 PM   #51
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If you have your ccw permit, I would just wait for them. Let them throw that first bottle and pull a gun on em. Call the cops and say they tried to hit you but hit the car instead. Either way, they'll be screwed. You don't mess with another mans ride. At least where im at.
Know how I know you don't have your CCW in Mass?
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:03 PM   #52
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Its a car. Idiots with guns confronting other idiots who are drunk sounds like a great way to make a bigger mistake than moving into a crappy apartment complex. My insurance has covered vandalism at no cost to me in the past. Choose the ladder be smart...
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:05 PM   #53
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Its a car. Idiots with guns confronting other idiots who are drunk sounds like a great way to make a bigger mistake than moving into a crappy apartment complex. My insurance has covered vandalism at no cost to me in the past. Choose the ladder be smart...
That way you can climb from the ground floor to your balcony, grab your dictionary, and look up the word "latter."
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:12 PM   #54
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Know how I know you don't have your CCW in Mass?
I digress. I don't know the ccw laws in that neck of the woods. Make your own judgment on this. But understand, it won't stop until you take an action that puts fear into them. Have your insurance handle it and it will get fixed. Most likely, it'll happen again simply because people suck. I would bet its probably only one or two dudes though.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:15 PM   #55
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I digress. I don't know the ccw laws in that neck of the woods. Make your own judgment on this. But understand, it won't stop until you take an action that puts fear into them. Have your insurance handle it and it will get fixed. Most likely, it'll happen again simply because people suck. I would bet its probably only one or two dudes though.
you fail to realize how extremely stupid you would be pull what you did.

conceal and carry permits do not give you a free pass to brandish your weapon.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:21 PM   #56
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I whole heartedly agree. I'm not saying to simply pull a weapon out. If someone were to throw a bottle at my car, id hold them at gun point until authorities were to arrive. Throwing a bottle like that is an aggressive and violent act. One I would venture to say, could be a threat against you. I myself wouldn't take any chances. But this is me, and many would argue my actions are not something everyone should do.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:30 PM   #57
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I whole heartedly agree. I'm not saying to simply pull a weapon out. If someone were to throw a bottle at my car, id hold them at gun point until authorities were to arrive. Throwing a bottle like that is an aggressive and violent act. One I would venture to say, could be a threat against you. I myself wouldn't take any chances. But this is me, and many would argue my actions are not something everyone should do.
And then you'd be arrested since they didn't directly threaten your life or the life of another.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:38 PM   #58
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Wow that terrible
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:46 PM   #59
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And then you'd be arrested since they didn't directly threaten your life or the life of another.
I wouldn't be arrested at all. Unless you shoot someone of course. But that's not what im saying at all. If you're throwing bottles at a car, that's aggressive. Also, violent in nature. If it happened to me, like I said that's what I would do. You can't expect to damage someone's property and expect that to not be a threat. Personally, I would do everything to make sure they saw justice. Every time ive called the cops on someone while they were there, they split.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:47 PM   #60
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I wouldn't be arrested at all. Unless you shoot someone of course. But that's not what im saying at all. If you're throwing bottles at a car, that's aggressive. Also, violent in nature. If it happened to me, like I said that's what I would do. You can't expect to damage someone's property and expect that to not be a threat. Personally, I would do everything to make sure they saw justice. Every time ive called the cops on someone while they were there, they split.
In Mass, yes, you would be arrested.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:04 PM   #61
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I'm sure that is probably the case in Mass. I don't mean to derail this thread. OP, best of luck with what's going on. I would recommend a hidden camera until you can get the car into a garage.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:37 PM   #62
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I wouldn't be arrested at all. Unless you shoot someone of course. But that's not what im saying at all. If you're throwing bottles at a car, that's aggressive. Also, violent in nature. If it happened to me, like I said that's what I would do. You can't expect to damage someone's property and expect that to not be a threat. Personally, I would do everything to make sure they saw justice. Every time ive called the cops on someone while they were there, they split.
Stop posting.

You have zero idea what you're talking about.

Again, a ccw does not give you a free pass to brandish your weapon. Maybe you need to look that word up.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:46 PM   #63
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I whole heartedly agree. I'm not saying to simply pull a weapon out. If someone were to throw a bottle at my car, id hold them at gun point until authorities were to arrive. Throwing a bottle like that is an aggressive and violent act. One I would venture to say, could be a threat against you. I myself wouldn't take any chances. But this is me, and many would argue my actions are not something everyone should do.
If you were in the car at the time a bottle was thrown at you then maybe you would be justified. If they threw a bottle at a parked car then you would not be justified.

In both cases I would just call 911 and let them handle it. Move the car out of the danger area in the first scenario and call when you are safe.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:54 PM   #64
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I have no reason to argue with you. Lets say, you're right. I have no idea what im talking about. Only my personal experiences. Though, its situational dependent. When ive felt threatened I've pulled my ccw. Haven't ever seen the inside of a jail cell yet.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:04 PM   #65
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I whole heartedly agree. I'm not saying to simply pull a weapon out. If someone were to throw a bottle at my car, id hold them at gun point until authorities were to arrive. Throwing a bottle like that is an aggressive and violent act. One I would venture to say, could be a threat against you. I myself wouldn't take any chances. But this is me, and many would argue my actions are not something everyone should do.
The key here is that the other people suggesting you don't pull a gun out not only understand that "many would argue my actions are not something everyone should do" but moreover feel a prosecutor and 12 jurors would feel it is something you shouldn't do (to pull a gun on someone throwing a bottle).

Throwing a bottle is hardly a life threatening action.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:24 PM   #66
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As others have mentioned, why don't you have a car cover!? It sounds like your car doesn't get driven that often since you use public transportation during the week. That's an even better reason to get a cover and feel safer about bad things happening to it. I personally can't speak for the Subaru covers (if they even make them which I assume they do) but there are several aftermarket companies that seem to make covers for seemingly every make and model. Some of them even have different levels of covers. With your situation, I would probably spring for the best one they make. Not only would it protect from rain, beer, soda or piss but if it's thick enough, it should give you some protection from falling beer bottles as well. Problem solved! You've invested in a nice car already. Might as well invest in a cover to protect it.

I was in a similar situation back when I had my apartment. Never had any real issues like you're having but was always worried about people parking too close or door dings. Back in March I bought a new condo with my own garage and I can't tell you how nice it is to not have to worry about anything happening to the car.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:26 PM   #67
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The key here is that the other people suggesting you don't pull a gun out not only understand that "many would argue my actions are not something everyone should do" but moreover feel a prosecutor and 12 jurors would feel it is something you shouldn't do (to pull a gun on someone throwing a bottle).

Throwing a bottle is hardly a life threatening action.
Throwing a bottle at an unoccupied car, no less.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:34 PM   #68
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As others have mentioned, why don't you have a car cover!? It sounds like your car doesn't get driven that often since you use public transportation during the week.
It's a good idea in theory, but on the other hand it may just draw more unwanted attention. For one it screams "I'm anal about protecting my car" and two all he needs is for one of those guys to get drunk and target his car with more mischievous behavior simply because he's trying to protect it.
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Throwing a bottle is hardly a life threatening action.
In some situations it's enough to rack up Assault with a Deadly Weapon charges.

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Old 09-26-2013, 05:54 PM   #70
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Know how I know you don't have your CCW in Mass?
I was thinking the same.


You should get a game camera and set it in the car. It will only take pictures when it detects motion. Snap pics of perps. Call the cops. Problem solved. Keep game cam ready in case they retaliate for getting busted.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:58 PM   #71
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It's enough to rack up Assault with a Deadly Weapon charges.
If thrown at a person, yes.

Not at an unoccupied car.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:05 PM   #72
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Maybe you should have invested your money in real estate in a better neighborhood rather than a $35,000 japanese economy car
Cold but good hindsight
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Ug, pretty well covered but that is far from what a concealed weapons permit is for. You should only pull your weapon if someone is trying to cause you or family members, or people in your immediate vicinity death or serious harm.

There is a good saying, if it's serious enough to pull it it's serious enough to shoot immediately. Don't be a jackass. It's to protect life, not play Mr. police man wanna be with someone who vandalized your car. Grow the **** up.

Example :

See someone vandalizing your car, call the police and inform them, try to keep an eye on them within reason until the cops get there so you can let them know where they are. Maybe snap a pic of them with your phone!

Now, take the same situation, you confront the guy, he pulls a knife and comes at you, or pulls a gun = shoot the **** out of him until he is no longer trying to hurt you.

With your kind of judgement I sure hope you do not have a permit. Do they even allow those in taxachusetts?
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:07 PM   #74
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If thrown at a person, yes.

Not at an unoccupied car.
Of course assault would be limited towards people. But I can't imagine chucking bottles at someone's car in a public area would be far from disorderly conduct, enough to inform the police.

I don't believe it condones pulling a gun on them as mentioned further above, if I saw someone chucking glass bottles at my car I'd call the police and hopefully they'd at least fine them and I'd be able to put the responsibility of any damage repair costs on that person. But then comes the headache of trying to prove it was that person(s).
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I wouldn't be arrested at all. Unless you shoot someone of course. But that's not what im saying at all. If you're throwing bottles at a car, that's aggressive. Also, violent in nature. If it happened to me, like I said that's what I would do. You can't expect to damage someone's property and expect that to not be a threat. Personally, I would do everything to make sure they saw justice. Every time ive called the cops on someone while they were there, they split.
You need to stop giving gun advice ASAP.

In order to pull your weapon in MA, you need to be in "imminent threat of dangerous bodily harm". In other words, you need to be getting your ass kicked, or a few seconds away from an unavoidable physical confrontation. Someone throwing beer bottles at your tarted up econobox doesn't qualify for that, especially if you're the aggressor, i.e. you initiate the confrontation.

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It's enough to rack up Assault with a Deadly Weapon charges.
At a car?

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When ive felt threatened I've pulled my ccw. Haven't ever seen the inside of a jail cell yet.
You've gotten extremely lucky. I'm also not sure how someone throwing a bottle at a car equates to you feeling threatened.
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