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Old 10-09-2013, 06:09 PM   #1
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Default Hyundai’s “Unprecedented Decision” Could Affect More than Smokers

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Calling it an “unprecedented decision,” Hyundai Motor Co. plans to completely eliminate not just cigarette lighters but the familiar round jacks they plug into from all off the vehicles sold in the home market, a move that could herald similar steps worldwide, officials said.

The jacks will be replaced with newer USB connectors that can be used to plug in smartphones and other devices. Hyundai noted that using a USB port can recharge a phone as much as “seven times faster than when using a separate portable charger.”

The auto industry has been steadily shifting policies favoring smokers since Chrysler began eliminating ashtrays from some of its products in 1994. Today, most of the automobiles sold in the U.S. no longer offer that once-ubiquitous feature – though, in many cases, smokers can order one that slips inside an existing storage nook in the door or center console.

With fewer people smoking in the U.S. and Europe, manufacturers have also been pulling out cigarette lighters, though they have generally decided to keep the familiar, round jack, relabeling them “accessory sockets,” or “power receptacles,” among other things.

And consumers have found more and more ways to make use of them, from radar detectors and portable navigation systems to accessory map lights and even such things as kettles and hair dryers. In fact, many vehicles now come with more than one plug to handle the various devices consumers need to power up.

At the same time, carmakers have begun to offer USB ports in more and more vehicles, especially those equipped with upgraded audio and infotainment systems. The plugs are most commonly used to allow access to the music stored on iPhones and other smartphones and MP3 players.

Some analysts have suggested the USB port could itself go away as more and more vehicles are being equipped with wireless Bluetooth audio connections. But that approach makes it difficult to keep an electronic device charged. Another solution is the wireless charging systems now available in the Dodge Dart and other vehicles.

USB ports may be good for charging up cellphones but several electronic component suppliers contacted by TheDetroitBureau.com cautioned that they would not serve as a true replacement for the cigarette lighter, or if you prefer, the familiar 12-volt power receptacle. They do not put out nearly as much power and couldn’t handle as heavy a current load as some devices, such as radar detectors and navi units, might require.

Even if they could, it would require consumers to buy another power adapter, with the potential for loss that inevitably brings.

The irony of Hyundai’s announcement is that the maker appears to still plan on catering to Koreans who tend to smoke more than motorists in the U.S. and other markets. Its announcement noted that, “the in-car ashtray will remain the same.” Apparently, the maker expects its customers will either carry their own lighters or perhaps purchase the next-generation smartphone including a touchscreen lighter.
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Old 10-09-2013, 06:28 PM   #2
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Not a bad idea, but I have to say that I love how many quarters I can keep in the ash tray of my Speed3.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:12 AM   #3
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and there I was hoping for in-car smoke alarms.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:31 AM   #4
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I'm surprised they haven't come out with a new standard already..... I figured that a lot of people still smoked in other countries, which probably slowed the process.

I wish they'd just put a standard A/C power outlet in all cars.. I've seen this already in some trucks.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:46 AM   #5
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People still use in car cigarette lighters? Everyone I have seen uses their own lighter even if the car has a cigarette lighter built in.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:17 AM   #6
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:36 AM   #7
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I encourage this move. Not because I don't smoke, but most people just use the outlet for charging anyways.

Just like I replaced a couple outlets with 'USB' outlets in the house. Easier to charge the USB devices.

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Old 10-10-2013, 12:28 PM   #8
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I want a standard AC plug and a USB port.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:30 PM   #9
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If they do away with the 12v power plug, they'll need to offer at least one 110v socket, preferably 3 or 4. I quite often have an inverter or two plugged in to get 110 for various needs. Laptops & DVD players probably draw more current than a USB port can provide.

When traveling in my Tribeca, I frequently have a laptop, DVD player, tablet charger, two Nintendo 3DS chargers and two phones plugged in. (Tribeca has 3 12-volt plugs (2 in front, 1 in back), two have power bricks plugged in, and the other has a dual USB charger.)

I need lotsa power outlets.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:51 PM   #10
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I encourage this move. Not because I don't smoke, but most people just use the outlet for charging anyways.

Just like I replaced a couple outlets with 'USB' outlets in the house. Easier to charge the USB devices.

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Old 10-10-2013, 12:51 PM   #11
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If they do away with the 12v power plug, they'll need to offer at least one 110v socket, preferably 3 or 4. I quite often have an inverter or two plugged in to get 110 for various needs. Laptops & DVD players probably draw more current than a USB port can provide.

When traveling in my Tribeca, I frequently have a laptop, DVD player, tablet charger, two Nintendo 3DS chargers and two phones plugged in. (Tribeca has 3 12-volt plugs (2 in front, 1 in back), two have power bricks plugged in, and the other has a dual USB charger.)

I need lotsa power outlets.
What in the actual ****.

You need an RV or a conversion van if you intend to live in it like that.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:57 PM   #12
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Base Tribeca without entertainment package, plus two or three kids, I can see it.

Hell, I have 5 12v outlets in our Forester and all of them get used when we go on trips. (Cooler, navigation, 2 phones and XM/Sirius) and that's just for the wife and I.
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What in the actual ****.

You need an RV or a conversion van if you intend to live in it like that.


Travelling with kids has its requirements. I'd love to have an RV, but it's not in the budget yet. Working on it...
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:58 PM   #14
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People still use in car cigarette lighters? Everyone I have seen uses their own lighter even if the car has a cigarette lighter built in.
The lighter is an option on the Jeep Wrangler
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Old 10-10-2013, 02:02 PM   #15
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The lighter is an option on the Jeep Wrangler
As is a 110v socket.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:10 PM   #16
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As is a 110v socket.
Yup the ash tray is too. It's the cup holder one.
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:30 PM   #17
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You can do this? I need dis.
Most of these waste energy all the time though. It is just an adapter inside the wall instead of a wall wart outside the plug.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:35 PM   #18
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Don't modern cigarettes charge via USB now anyways?
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You could always purchase one of these for the USB ports.
That video...I...what just happened?
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Same reaction I had the first time I watched it.
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