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Old 10-14-2013, 09:20 PM   #1
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I never quite got over the whole 2012 chrome headlight, although I think on a white wrx it's more palatable than other colors I told myself if I ever saw a pair go up for sale I would jump on them and do the whole baking splitting and painting deal. I do like the oem black housing headlights however I do feel as though sometimes on a white car it looks very racoon-ish.

This is where I'm going to put my flame suit on, but what was very popular when I was driving my 2000 civic si was the ek-9 type-r gunmetal chrome housed headlights. This was my inspiration on my headlight project (sorry guys I'll run away with my tail between my legs doing something honda-ish on our car). Just for kicks I contacted lightwerkz to see what they can do instead of DIY project. After speaking with Ceasar (great guy!) and seeing some samples of what he can do I decided to ship my headlights to lightwerkz to have them do the custom paint job. I have some HID stuff coming my way as well but I wanted to really show off the kind of work they do. I just got this pic from lightwerkz yesterday (yes they actually replied on a Sunday!!!) I'm expecting to get these headlights by the end of the week (I hope) and throw them on this weekend. I'll shoot a bunch of pics when I get everything on my car, but as for now introducing the gunmetal chrome along with the DRL/highbeam bowl yellowed out.





edit to update 1st post with pics from lightwerkz...will update again sometime this weekend when I can get to swapping out my headlights.








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Old 10-14-2013, 09:23 PM   #2
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i actually really like that look, so you have any pics installed?
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:29 PM   #3
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the lightwerkz guys are still working on them, I'm hoping to get these bad boys by the end of the week.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:31 AM   #4
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The gunmetal looks SICK as well as the yellow for the hi beams. I love that look! You will be pleased with your new output with the TSX lens and HID kit! Lightwerkz is great.
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Old 10-15-2013, 10:35 AM   #5
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Awesome
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:03 AM   #6
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Love it. Awesome. I can't wait to see completed pictures.
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:12 AM   #7
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Wooo was just browsing Facebook and saw that LightWerkz has posted the images of the OP's headlights. Here's the link, they look great OP!

http://www.lightwerkz.net/photo/mark...-h11-xb35-hid/
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:21 PM   #8
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Very impressive work and an interesting idea! Sub'ed for installed pictures.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:04 PM   #9
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I love the gold for the high beams.
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:22 PM   #10
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Just out of curiously if you don't mind, how much did they charge you for the color change and retrofit?
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:41 PM   #11
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these are just adorable
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:13 PM   #12
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sub'd for pics after install. They look great.

I'm painting my buddies headlights tomorrow with a satin black but I'm really diggin' the gunmetal color.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:27 PM   #13
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yeah,...at first i was "meh", but then i hit the link and think they are pretty dope
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:35 PM   #14
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Wooo was just browsing Facebook and saw that LightWerkz has posted the images of the OP's headlights. Here's the link, they look great OP!

http://www.lightwerkz.net/photo/mark...-h11-xb35-hid/
nice! beat me to the punch!!

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Just out of curiously if you don't mind, how much did they charge you for the color change and retrofit?
it wasn't cheap at least I feel like it wasn't, but I wanted to get it done right and done perfect. I ran me $610 for parts and labor. Two tone paint scheme ($320), tsx clear lens ($120), morimoto hid ballast with harness ($170)

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these are just adorable
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:17 AM   #15
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So just the tsx clear lens? I thought the wrx's projector bowl for was for halogen based lights and not HID so why get an HID lens in a halogen projector bowl.
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So just the tsx clear lens? I thought the wrx's projector bowl for was for halogen based lights and not HID so why get an HID lens in a halogen projector bowl.
Afaik, round lenses have a single focal point (for a nominal light wavelength, with some minor differences across the light spectrum), and that the reflector bowl is designed to aim light coming out from the light source to the lens. So, as long as the focal length is appropriate, I don't think there is such a thing as an HID or halogen specific lens in a projector unit.

Having said that, the reflector bowl will generate a different beam pattern when different source of light is used (e.g. HID vs halogen bulb). This also applies to comparing the same bowl with a good HID bulb vs a questionable HID bulb that may be off center by less than a milimeter, or tilted less than a degree off axis, or has the center of the arc moved forward or back from the optimal position. In some projectors, the impact of this minor changes can noticeably degrade the HID beam output. Some of the differences may take some training to notice.
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Afaik, round lenses have a single focal point (for a nominal light wavelength, with some minor differences across the light spectrum), and that the reflector bowl is designed to aim light coming out from the light source to the lens. So, as long as the focal length is appropriate, I don't think there is such a thing as an HID or halogen specific lens in a projector unit.

Having said that, the reflector bowl will generate a different beam pattern when different source of light is used (e.g. HID vs halogen bulb). This also applies to comparing the same bowl with a good HID bulb vs a questionable HID bulb that may be off center by less than a milimeter, or tilted less than a degree off axis, or has the center of the arc moved forward or back from the optimal position. In some projectors, the impact of this minor changes can noticeably degrade the HID beam output. Some of the differences may take some training to notice.

So basically you don't know.
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So basically you don't know.
The output will be different when one swaps the bulb from halogen to HID, because the reflector bowl is presumably designed to optimize itself to a specific type.

Practically, whether the difference is noticed by the owner/user, is a different story. When the original halogen bulb has a longitudinal filament (i.e. the filament lines up with the direction of travel as opposed to the left-right direction or up-down direction), then the HID arc (which is also longitudinal) is not likely to cause more glare above the cutoff, provided there is no squirrel finder type mechanism inside the projector.

The output on the road, however will not be the same, in terms of which parts of the road get the highest and lowest intensity of light. But if one drives in areas where one can get away without turning low beams on (e.g. thanks to street lighting and low beam from other vehicles), then it is not likely that the owner will notice. All they see is a "brighter" output, which is perceived to be better.

A fellow nasioc & hid planet member has a nice thread exploring what a proper beam output should look like; interesting & relevant read imho:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...light=frederik
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So would putting a tsx lens in place of the wrx Fresnel lens improve lighting? Would a tsx lens in a wrx projector bowl coupled with HID improve lighting or would you need the tsx lens with a HID bowl?
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So would putting a tsx lens in place of the wrx Fresnel lens improve lighting? Would a tsx lens in a wrx projector bowl coupled with HID improve lighting or would you need the tsx lens with a HID bowl?
I don't want to clutter this thread too much;
If the focal length is identical, a clear lens improves the overall intensity because any fresnel, dimpled, or other non-clear lens has a bit of an intensity loss compared to a clear lens. But the side effects are: (1) sharper transition from bright to dark at the cutoff, and (2) any minute imperfection in reflector bowl will be amplified in terms of streaks on the road.

HID specific bowl should work best with HID.
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:42 AM   #21
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OP... Can you give me any information on the type of paint that was used for the chrome sections of the headlight. I really like the way it still shows the chrome beneath the darker clear coat. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Your headlights look sexy too! Enjoy those HID's!!!!
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #22
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WOW!! I love it bro! The gunmetal chrome with the gold chrome looks incredible!


I might have to split back open my headlamps to do something similar

post plenty of pics when the lamps are back on the car!
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:30 PM   #23
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Can't wait to see these installed!
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:17 PM   #24
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OP... Can you give me any information on the type of paint that was used for the chrome sections of the headlight. I really like the way it still shows the chrome beneath the darker clear coat. Any info will be greatly appreciated.

Your headlights look sexy too! Enjoy those HID's!!!!
Hey man, I wish I knew more about that kind of stuff but that's why I had it sent out to have the pro's do it haha. According to the blog post with my headlight pics they said they used a tinted clear coat to maintain that chrome look. I wonder if you were to use like night shade spray cans or something similar if it would achieve the same effects.
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:23 PM   #25
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these look AMAZING!
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