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Old 03-14-2001, 10:42 PM   #1
ben98
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Question Dealers in Phoenix

Where should I go to buy my WRX? I've been to both Pitre and Camelback, and both are charging 1500 to 3000 Market Value Adjustment fees on their cars. I don't want to buy from someone who pulls that sh**.

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Old 03-15-2001, 01:00 AM   #2
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Then Wait. That's all you can do.

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Old 03-15-2001, 01:39 AM   #3
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As Eric has stated, wait a little. And try out Autobytel.com's services, that should help cut out the stupid ass sales people.
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Old 03-15-2001, 06:40 AM   #4
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Stay away from the A##holes at Thomas Motors. Sales is too bad but service is an ordeal.
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Old 03-15-2001, 06:42 AM   #5
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I've been to both Pitre and Camelback, and both are charging 1500 to 3000 Market Value Adjustment fees on their cars.
That does it! I'm movin' to Oregon. I'd rather burn that money in a bonfire then give it to a dealer.

Here's a few ideas:

1. Order the car from an out of state dealer with a good reputation. Spend the extra money on a plane ticket and hotel room and spend a pleasant weekend driving your new car back home.

2. Try ordering it locally, rather then buying one off of the lot. Pit two or three dealers against each other. Buy it from the one that gives you the lowest price (below retail). That's how I bought my 2000 RS.

3. Try ordering it through the fleet sales department of most any dealer. I've never done this, but I've talked to people who've said it works well.

Good luck, ...and be sure to bring it by one of our meets when you get it.

-Red
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Old 03-15-2001, 06:56 AM   #6
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Oh, and if you want a free half-hour or so of entertainment, try this. Get the Kelly Blue Book for new cars (or go to www.kbb.com ) and get all the wholesale costs for the car and any options you want. Also find out about any factory incentives (which I doubt there are any right now) and dealer holdbacks (which is about 2% on a Subaru, I think). Then, make a spread sheet with those values, giving the dealer a 2-3% profit on everything. Then just walk in and hand the salesman the spread sheet and a check.

They won't sell it to you at that price, of course, but they'll put on a hell of a song and dance before they let you walk back out with that check.

I actually did this when I bought my Toyota Pickup. I ended up getting it for a few hundred dollars over the price I calculated, but it was still well under retail. I'm pretty sure one dealer even printed a phony invoice for me. It's great fun!

-Red

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Old 03-15-2001, 07:32 AM   #7
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When I got my 01 RS, I found it on AutoNation.com. It was listed as going to Pitre of Scottsdale and being at invoice price. I called and the salesman, Scot Sirls, and he said it would be there soon. He called me 2 days later and said it was in. I printed what I got of of Autonation, and took it in. He said they had to honor that price and I got it for invoice, no prob. It was great. I don't know if the WRX's are listed yet, but it's worth a shot.

Scott was a great guy, but the finance guy was a strait up liar. Take a calculator with you if you go. His name was David something and he had a Irish accent, he's real nice to your face, but does bad things with the numbers. Good Luck.

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Old 03-15-2001, 07:58 AM   #8
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Just remember, you'll have to dance with a salesman if you don't use a site like autonation, autobytel, carpoint etc....
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Old 03-15-2001, 10:00 AM   #9
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Just wanted to relate a quick experience about buying a car. I was going to buy one of those Hyundai Santa Fe SUVs, and I went to my Credit Union to see what their rates were. I had forgotten that Desert Schools offers an auto buying source onsite. They are called "The Auto Source". You don't have to deal with dealerships, you tell them what you want, and he finds it for you. You don't even have to visit the dealership to pick it up, they will deliver it to you. The best thing about them is that they get all their cars for just over invoice. No haggling, or thinking your getting screwed, he tells you what he can get them for and that is that. We ended up buying a Mitsubishi Montero Sport, and we payed $1700 under retail.
And like I said, the best part is you never even have to look a dealer in the eye.

The service is available to anyone, you don't have to be a member of Desert Schools C.U.

Just thought I would tell you about that.

Mike
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