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Old 10-21-2013, 05:41 PM   #1
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Default 2011 wrx: backup camera to go with pioneer avh-x3500bhs?

Hey guys/girls/others:
I changed out the stock radio in my 2011 WRX for a pioneer avh-x3500bhs and would like to add a backup camera. The one that pioneer makes and, of course, recommends for this is way more than i would like to spend.
I've read some of the threads here recommending a CCD over a CMOS camera but other than that I know nothing.
is there a good place to mount on these cars? i was considering just mounting it inside the car on the plastic sill of the back window. Has anyone had any success with one of the cheap ebay/amazon cameras?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:48 PM   #2
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I got a license plate light w/rear view camera for (the 08+ I think) impreza off amazon. It didn't match up to my 06 but I made it work. I didn't use the license plate light part but I mounted (rigged it up "good enough") between the plate lights on my car.

Amazon.com: Subaru Forester Impreza Backup Rear View Camera Monitor: Car ElectronicsAmazon.com: Subaru Forester Impreza Backup Rear View Camera Monitor: Car Electronics

It's basically a little cube w/ a camera that it mounted into the plastic piece that should fit where your license plate light goes now. wire the led's into that and hook up the camera, you'll be good to go.

btw, my deck is the pioneer AVH-P3400BH
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:30 PM   #3
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I used a Clarion camera (this one: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...n-CC4001U.html) with my Pioneer X930BT. Picture quality's nice and it was cheap at the local place because it was discontinued.

CMOS is generally better than CCD in terms of handling glare from the sun, but CMOS got a bad rap early on because there were some REALLY crummy CMOS sensors floating around (think webcams from like 1995). Nowadays, if the picture quality is decent the technology doesn't really matter that much.

Here is how I installed mine (ignore that it is totally filthy from winter grime, ha). I routed the wire in through a small hole I drilled in the dome for the license plate lamp (an easily-replaceable part) and then siliconed it to keep water out.


backup camera by slipstream3d, on Flickr

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Old 10-22-2013, 04:02 PM   #4
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Take at look at this video. It's more for moving video, but you get the idea:

CMOS and CCD have both been out for many years now, and it's not hard to get a cheaper version that is pretty good quality. You're not planning on filming family outtings with this thing anyways. Go aftermarket, as the pioneer cameras are way overpriced (As is any backup cam from an audio/head unit company).
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:41 PM   #5
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Excellent point on the CCD vs CMOS... rolling shutter kinda sucks.

Here's what I don't like about CCD in backup cameras and stuff - smear (that nasty purple line):

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Old 10-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #6
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That's the exact reason I use CMOS in my first person flight quad. If you fly in the direction of the sun it can saturate half the screen with those lines.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:35 AM   #7
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thanks for the all the advice, guys.
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Old 10-24-2013, 10:45 AM   #8
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There are several threads on this (see links below if you haven't found them already).
Cmos vs Ccd... you're gonna have to decide.

I chose a used kenwood ccd2000 I got half price on ebay. And I didn't the camera sticking out so much so I placed it behind the trim of my hatch as you can see below. Wires went up along the headliner and window seals (took 10mn to do). Hope that helps.



links to more setup/information:
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gr-ice-s...amera-faq.html
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2335840
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2352776
http://johnboice.com/bkupcam/cam-08.html
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