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Old 11-10-2013, 10:59 AM   #1
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Default To winter tire, or not to winter tire... that is the question

So I have a 2014 WRX, wanted to know how well the stock tires do in the snow. I had an SRT4 previous to this and that car NEEDED winter tires, the WRX, doesn't look as obvious, but not sure.

Suggested? Highly suggested? 50/50? Can get by without?
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:17 AM   #2
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wait a minute... You've been on the forum since 2000... And you don't know whether you should get a snow tire or not?!?! Or how to utilize the search function?!?

dude, really?
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Old 11-10-2013, 01:06 PM   #3
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Definitely get winters if your area gets decent snow. If you get the occasional 1-2 inches, you might be OK with good all seasons like the DWS.

(Unless you're like me and fedex lost your winter setup, leaving you tight on money for another winter setup )
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Old 11-10-2013, 01:58 PM   #4
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get spare set of wheels and snow tires. just use them when you need to so you dont have to buy new ones every year because of wearing them down daily driving.
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Old 11-10-2013, 02:43 PM   #5
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:29 PM   #6
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Decide how many days in a year you think you will have snow on the roads. Here in New York it's 10 to 20 days. Been using all seasons for 10 years with no issues. Definitely not better than snows, but just too many dry days here in the winter to burn through winters.
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:36 PM   #7
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Decide how many days in a year you think you will have snow on the roads where winter tires can save you from smashing into the rear end of the car in front of you, making it your fault? Here in New York it's 10 to 20 days. Been using all seasons for 10 years with no issues yet, so I figure I'm due and have doubled my life insurance. Definitely not better than snows, but just too many dry days here in the winter to burn through winters.
There, I fixed that for you. We bought my wife's previous car....an 08 outback 1 year old from a dealer. As part of the deal, they replaced the all seasons with Dunlop Graspic snows. They were the only tires on the car. We traded the car in 63,000 miles later (in August) with those same tires. Does anyone have a valid reason to not buy snows when you live in an area where snow falls?
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Old 11-10-2013, 04:37 PM   #8
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Performance winter tires aren't just for snow. They work better in cold weather as well. We don't get a lot of snow here in Washington but I have dedicated snow tires and wheels. Keeps your summer wheel tire combo in better shape too as winter roads are tough on the wheels finish.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:13 PM   #9
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Your driving speed should be determined by how quickly you can safely stop the car given the particular road conditions you're driving in. AWD helps you go. It doesn't help you stop. Winter tires help you stop a lot quicker in snow, on ice and on cold pavement; and therefore they will allow you do drive faster safely.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:29 PM   #10
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wait a minute... You've been on the forum since 2000... And you don't know whether you should get a snow tire or not?!?! Or how to utilize the search function?!?

dude, really?
Go **** yourself. This is the point of the newbie forum, is it not? t(-_-t)

Everyone else, thanks for the input.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:32 PM   #11
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Easy answer, you have listed MWSOC as your region. This means you get winter. Real winter. Your stock tires are "summer only" tires. There is your clue. They are not designed to be used in temps below 40f. Get them off the car and get into a good set of winter tires before we see posts of you wrapped around a pole or another car.
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:23 PM   #12
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:33 PM   #13
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Go **** yourself. This is the point of the newbie forum, is it not? t(-_-t)

Everyone else, thanks for the input.
I agree it is. But you're hardly a newbie...

As a serious response. there's another thread asking about winter tires like 10 threads down. Check there for more actual answers.

Thanks for showing your ineptitude at the internet after trying for 13 years...
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:47 PM   #14
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If you have to ask if you do... you do. Ive done with and without in harsher weather then you may ever see. I would get the snow tires. You'll be able to drive on ice and snow with inputs that aren't necessarily feather light and constantly preemptive.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:48 PM   #15
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Oh the annual thread. Winter really has arrived.

There are a lot of good threads on this topic from recently. They always seem go off on painful tangents.
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Old 11-10-2013, 10:44 PM   #16
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/end of *.snowtires thread.*
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:16 AM   #17
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BEST ANSWER EVER! That is the best comparison test I've ever seen. Pretty conclusive. I want to add that even if you don't have room to store extra tires, some tire shops will store your tires in the off season either for free or for a small charge. Direct Tire in Eastern Massachusetts has done this for at least 25 years.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:16 AM   #18
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I've driven RWD cars through Wisconsin winters for years, while its manageable with summer tires, winter tires make it awesome! Just that alone makes me want them on every veichle for the winter months.

After buying my first WRX (02) I was amazed at the AWD craziness in the winters with blizax tires. Honestly if you are a decent driver you should have no problems without winter tires on an AWD car, although they make a huge difference.

I like it when people dont have winter tires in snowstorms, makes it easy for me to pass them aaaand I like new cars, so when people slide through intersections and hit me I usually dont mind.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:01 AM   #19
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There, I fixed that for you. We bought my wife's previous car....an 08 outback 1 year old from a dealer. As part of the deal, they replaced the all seasons with Dunlop Graspic snows. They were the only tires on the car. We traded the car in 63,000 miles later (in August) with those same tires. Does anyone have a valid reason to not buy snows when you live in an area where snow falls?
Makes me wonder how I survived all those winters with my 1969 cutlass, RWD and all seasons. Never had a problem. Sure winters are better but we just don't get a lot of snow here. It's only a matter of life and death if you drive like an asshat.
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Old 11-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #20
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I vote for dedicated winters.

Seriously, it's not worth betting it. I've had friends nearly wreck their cars from hitting some slush with summers and having the ABS stick on. Fail.

Winters are for cold weather too as some have stated. Try panic stopping in below 30 degree weather. You'll stop, but your ABS will start to come on much sooner than in the summer. Less tire grip.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:26 AM   #21
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I've driven mostly BMW's prior to owning my STi. They were usually on low profile performance all season or summer tires and were awful when we got snow (albeit pretty rare here). I usually just left the car in the garage and had to carpool with my wife in her SUV. For my 2006 330i I bought a set of take off BMW 17" wheels and dedicated snows and was sold. They were a bit squishy compared to the performance rubber, but we did get snow that year and the BMW was unstoppable! This was using Continental Extreme Winter Contact tires. A performance winter (like the Michelin Alpin PA4's I have now) will perform much better in the handling department off snow.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:41 AM   #22
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To die or not to die should be the question.
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:46 AM   #23
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To die or not to die should be the question.
Quoted for truth.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:10 PM   #24
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So I have a 2014 WRX, wanted to know how well the stock tires do in the snow. I had an SRT4 previous to this and that car NEEDED winter tires, the WRX, doesn't look as obvious, but not sure.

Suggested? Highly suggested? 50/50? Can get by without?
the way i see it; if you live in an area that has a distinct "snow" season (like michigan, for example), snow tires are a must. a car is only as good as the tires it rides on...


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Old 11-11-2013, 08:41 PM   #25
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What are winter tires?
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