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Old 06-12-2014, 03:58 PM   #651
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and?

We haven't had a race there in years! There's lots to discuss and I dare not speak too much about the grand prix outside of the official thread.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:11 PM   #652
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So go make it yourself if you don't like its absence.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:15 PM   #653
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That might be a little awkward.

















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Old 06-12-2014, 11:00 PM   #654
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:34 PM   #655
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^ i would love to see the stig do a gymkhana video in the tiny lotus
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:45 PM   #656
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Old 06-20-2014, 01:44 PM   #657
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bigger picture here. what are some examples in the past where a driver has been told he was wrong according to the rules, but the driver believes that he wasnt?

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The stewards at the Austrian Grand Prix has upheld Sergio Perez's five-place grid penalty in Austria after reviewing his last-lap Montreal crash with Felipe Massa.

The investigation into the crash had been reopened in order to give both drivers a chance to air their views, which they were unable to do in Canada as they went to hospital for precautionary check-ups. Force India had said that "new elements" had to be considered ahead of the race to show Perez was not at fault for the crash.

Despite hearing that evidence at a new hearing which begun at 16:00 local time in Spielberg, the stewards concluded Perez's penalty should stand.

"The driver of Car 11 [Perez] contended that the new element(s) evidenced that in defending his position he was exercising his right, under Article 20.4 of the 2014 Formula One Sporting Regulations, to use the whole track," read the stewards' statement. "However, it was clear to the stewards that the defence of his position occurred in the braking area. Article 20.4 specifically states that any right to defend by using the whole track must occur prior to any braking area. Accordingly the driver of Car 11 was not entitled to defend his position in the manner he did."

Perez said he had felt confident his argument was correct.

"We went there to show all the evidence that we had, the data, the line and the pictures that we couldn't show in Montreal," he said. "For that reason we felt very confident that we had the proof. The stewards looked to be quite sensible and agreed to an extent with everything I said, but then the situation didn't change at all.

"I'm a bit disappointed, but it's time to move on and tomorrow it will be a big pain to be five places back on this track that is so small and difficult to overtake. I don't want to keep talking about the accident and what happened and what did not. It's time to move on together as a team and find everything we can for Sunday. Tomorrow will not be so important for us, it will be Sunday."


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Old 06-20-2014, 07:28 PM   #658
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Big news for next year

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114529

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Formula 1 to switch to standing restarts after safety cars in 2015

Formula 1 is set for standing starts from the grid following safety cars in 2015, AUTOSPORT can reveal.

Following discussions between teams about ways to improve the show, one idea that has gained momentum in recent weeks is to overhaul the way that races resume after caution periods.

There is a consensus that the current rolling restarts with the leader dictating the pace do not provide enough excitement.

Sources have revealed that during this week's F1 Commission meeting at Biggin Hill, a proposal to scrap the current format for 2015 and change it to grid starts after safety cars was approved.

The idea is that from next year, once lapped cars have been allowed to unlap themselves, cars will form up on the grid once a safety car period has ended.

There will then be the same procedure of a standing start as happens at the beginning of races.

The hope is that there will be more chance of positions changing, with the spectacle of a standing start producing more drama than rolling starts do.

The rule change still needs to be ratified at the FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Munich next week, but this will be a formality now that the F1 Commission has backed it.
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Old 06-20-2014, 07:45 PM   #659
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And they worry about overheating after 1 formation lap.
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Old 06-20-2014, 08:37 PM   #660
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This could backfire on certain tracks. I could see the following happening.

Standing start
crash on turn 1 or 2
safety car
repeat standing start
crash on turn 1 or 2
safety car

and on and on until 1 car is left.

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Old 06-20-2014, 10:14 PM   #661
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Good thing Webber isn't around anymore to duff anymore standing starts...

They should open up the rules on aero a bit more or at least make it so the trailing car doesn't have to drive through as dirty of air so passing can be more plentiful even without DRS.
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That would be closing the rules on aero, which I approve.
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This could backfire on certain tracks. I could see the following happening.

Standing start
crash on turn 1 or 2
safety car
repeat standing start
crash on turn 1 or 2
safety car

and on and on until 1 car is left.

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Congrats to Kimi. Great race BRO. Exceeding expectations.
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Congrats to Kimi. Great race BRO. Exceeding expectations.
Ferrari told him to manage the brakes on lap 2, he also lost power and was on a very odd tire strategy.

How is that supermodel wife of yours?

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Kimi Raikkonen says it is unacceptable that Ferrari asked him to slow down and cool his brakes after just two laps of the Austrian Grand Prix.

Raikkonen endured another frustrating race behind the wheel of the F14 T, recording just a single point. When told he needed to make two tenths behind Jenson Button in the middle stint Raikkonen replied "give me more power then", but he says the problems with his Ferrari had started far earlier than that.

"Yes we had [power] go down but also after two laps I had some brake issues, I was meant to cool the brakes," Raikkonen said. "I tried to fight against the guys in front of me as well as behind me so it's quite difficult after two laps when you've been asked to slow down.

"Those two things should not be happening and we they to fix them. We cannot go into a race and start slowing down after two laps because of issues like that. We are not fast enough to give up any times anyhow so hopefully there is a lot more work to be done."

Raikkonen is also confused as to why Ferrari kept him out for so long during his first stint when he had clearly lost the performance from his tyres. Running third, Raikkonen started struggling on his worn supersoft tyres and dropped behind Sergio Perez - who was yet to pit - and Nico Rosberg.

"For me it was very bad timing for the pit stop. My tyres were not good and I lost two places on my in lap. I needed to really stop earlier but I don't know the reasons why we stopped at that point but it obviously cost us some places. With the speed that I had there was no way to get anything back. Obviously that was not very good."


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Ferrari told him to manage the brakes on lap 2, he also lost power and was on a very odd tire strategy.

How is that supermodel wife of yours?
You're really upset about me thinking that wildebeest is barely a 4 aren't you? Jesus man. I'm not posting a pic of my wife since that's a classless idea. Stop asking. Be thankful that you have low standards. I always wished I did.
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. I'm not posting a pic of my wife since that's a classless idea. Stop asking.
I think this means a ban, right?
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You're really upset about me thinking that wildebeest is barely a 4 aren't you? Jesus man. I'm not posting a pic of my wife since that's a classless idea. Stop asking. Be thankful that you have low standards. I always wished I did.


I have no idea what you are talking about or why you are projecting. I was simply asking how your wife was doing.

back to Kimi.
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I'm not posting a pic of my wife since that's a classless idea


At least a T.O.

How can one with knowledge barely out of the womb be ready to commit to the holiest of all sins? This guy probably has vivid parts for crying out loud.

Guess, what Vettel got beat by his teamate again too! He's cabbage, just like your arguments.
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At least a T.O.

How can one with knowledge barely out of the womb be ready to commit to the holiest of all sins? This guy probably has vivid parts for crying out loud.

Guess, what Vettel got beat by his teamate again too! He's cabbage, just like your arguments.
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Wow, I thought this was interesting. From foxsports.com:

RED BULL COULD BUY RENAULT ENGINE OPERATION

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Rumors to the effect that Renault could be planning to sell its F1 engine department in Viry come at exactly the same time as suggestions that Red Bull wants to do its own thing on the power unit front – and it’s not hard to tie the two together.

Logic suggests that rather than attempt to start its own engine operation from scratch, Red Bull could take over Viry and introduce its own systems and key personnel in an attempt to improve the situation. It’s worth noting that Dr Helmut Marko has been spending a lot of time there recently.

While this would be an expensive exercise, it’s worth noting that with RBR and Toro Rosso the company is already paying two substantial bills each year. In addition, sources say that Red Bull and in particular Dr Marko has been paying close attention lately to the future of Caterham.

The team is already a customer for the Red Bull gearbox, and it would be natural for the deal to be extended to cover a power unit package as well, and provide further income to offset Red Bull’s costs. The same could potentially go for Lotus as well.

Christian Horner was keen on Sunday evening to express doubts about his supplier: “There needs to be change at Renault, because it can’t continue like this. It’s not good for Renault, it’s not good for Red Bull. We need to work together as partners – there will not be another engine in the back of the car next year, we want to be competitive, we want to run at the front, and these kinds of issues can’t and shouldn’t happen.

“Something needs to happen, because whatever’s being done there is not working at the moment. It’s not our business, it’s not our responsibility, we’re the end user. It’s just frustrating that the product is just not working at the moment.”

Could that change be a take over by Red Bull? And could one of Adrian Newey’s future projects be to offer some direction to the engine department?

Of course the key thing is that a change of owner and approach might not be enough. What Viry needs to do is forget the currently homologated engine and start afresh with all the knowledge gained in recent months, and from its observations of what Mercedes has done.

A brand new power unit – badged a Red Bull or perhaps Infiniti – could then be homologated for 2016, and it would be several steps ahead of what the homologation regulations would allow Renault to do should it just continue with the current unit.

The name change and loss of Renault identity would also suit Infiniti, which sources say is keen to distance itself from the Renault name, which does not have the high-end associations it desires.

Rivals clearly won’t be happy at the idea of Renault/Vity getting this second chance to bypass the homologation rules and build a V6 turbo power unit, even if was under a different name.

When Horner was asked on Sunday if would be possible for such a scenario to unfold he simply smiled and said he believed it was…
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Strange, I thought it would be more likely that Red bull would be willing. odd to think of a drink maker building drive trains for a car company sponsor.

Maybe Nissan is confident enough to LMP1 and F1?
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But then who will Red Bull blame all of their problems on if Renault isn't their supplier?
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But then who will Red Bull blame all of their problems on if Renault isn't their supplier?
What exactly are you suggesting with this comment?
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But then who will Red Bull blame all of their problems on if Renault isn't their supplier?
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