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Old 11-25-2013, 11:08 PM   #1
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Default Is this low mileage GC8 coupe worth it?

I put down a refundable deposit on a car that I feel is pretty rare and in pretty rare condition. Its a bone stock silver 2000 subaru rs coupe 5spd manual in as good condition as a 13 year old car can get. It has 76,000 miles on the odo and only one owner with a clean carfax. Its been advertised as zero issues, zero rust, and it looks pretty clean inside and out with exception to some regular ware and tare.

Engine: 2.5L 4
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Exterior Color: Silverthorn
Interior Color: Gray
Model Code: YMC
Mileage: 76436






They are asking almost 8 grand for the thing. It looks mint. Of course I wont pull the trigger until I actually take a look at it in person but I did place a deposit on it so ya'll cant try an buy it from under me. This RS is in the best condition I have seen so far in my search for one. They said the price is negotiable, but im wondering if you guys think the car is worth it at around 7,500 ? Check out the ad and the carfax, let me know what you guys think. I am literally about to buy this thing but I dont want to feel like Im getting duked by paying almost 8 grand for a 13 year old car. Anything I should look for in particular before I buy it?

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Old 11-25-2013, 11:24 PM   #2
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seems a bit overpriced, but if its worth it to you.....

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Old 11-25-2013, 11:26 PM   #3
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The price is hard to compare to anything because not alot of low mileage Rs coupes show up. If you think it's worth 7500 then buy it, but the dealer took it in on trade for $4,700 so there is plenty of wiggle room. Put on your poker face and haggle.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #4
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seems a bit overpriced, but if its worth it to you.....

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Yeah it does but they are trying to justify the price cuz of the rarity and the condition. What do you mean its not a GC ?

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The price is hard to compare to anything because not alot of low mileage Rs coupes show up. If you think it's worth 7500 then buy it, but the dealer took it in on trade for $4,700 so there is plenty of wiggle room. Put on your poker face and haggle.
Good point, I hope I didnt come off as too anxious by putting down a deposit. I would be paying cash, what do you think would be a good initial offer? I was thinking maybe $6500
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:57 PM   #5
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Yeah it does but they are trying to justify the price cuz of the rarity and the condition. What do you mean its not a GC ?



Good point, I hope I didnt come off as too anxious by putting down a deposit. I would be paying cash, what do you think would be a good initial offer? I was thinking maybe $6500
I'd say start at $6k, maybe even $5500 - $5750. Gives potential wiggle room for them to drop the price some more.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:13 AM   #6
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GC8 is a 2.0l turbo sedan, coupes are chassis code GM, 2.5 in an RS would be E, so it's a GME, not GC8.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:13 AM   #7
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Definitely under 6500 with that interior. Check service history and see if Headgaskets were done (not that the mileage would require it but it is a 13yr old car) you could knock price off that way if they werent done = potential headache down the road.
Check the rear wheel well where it meets the bumper for rust along the seam. a common area where these cars corrode.
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Old 11-26-2013, 12:31 AM   #8
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GC8 is a 2.0l turbo sedan, coupes are chassis code GM, 2.5 in an RS would be E, so it's a GME, not GC8.
Ahhh.... I see.

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Definitely under 6500 with that interior. Check service history and see if Headgaskets were done (not that the mileage would require it but it is a 13yr old car) you could knock price off that way if they werent done = potential headache down the road.
Check the rear wheel well where it meets the bumper for rust along the seam. a common area where these cars corrode.
They fixed the tear in the driver seat and the rest of the interior looks clean from the pictures, with exception to the floor matts. The head gasket wasnt replaced but a bunch of other little things were, check out the carfax on the link in the original post.

I will try to use the head gasket as a point of negotiation in addition to anything that comes up when I check the car out.
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Old 11-26-2013, 01:09 AM   #9
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Your not going to get anywhere using the head gasket scheme. These used car places are usually happy making 1k on cars they take in trade, obviously they try and get a lot more. I got my first wrx for $5,300 although it was originally priced at 9k. Just start low and play hardball but you need to make sure they know you are serious. Very first thing I would say something along the lines of "your asking price is high, what will you come down to?" They will respond with "ooooooh aaaaaah we can't take much less for it, buuuuut I could probably come down $500." Now you can feel better giving them an initial offer 2,000 less than their sticker price and go from there. The key is to always get them to come down FIRST, even if it's a little bit at least it sets the precedent. No matter what you're haggling about, get the other person to say a number first, any number. Sometimes they get uncomfortable and give you a number that's less than you were even willing to pay.

That being said the car is worth what someone is willing to pay, if your willing to pay 7,500 for it, then I guess that's what it's worth It doesn't mean it's worth that to anyone else on the planet honestly I don't think its worth any more than 5k but that's just me. I Love haggling, I haggle on everything, everywhere. Usually people just get uncomfortable and just give me what I want for what I want to pay, sometimes they get offended and sometimes they haggle back. You would be amazed where you can get deals haggling, even department stores. It never hurts to try and it's actually kinda fun.

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Old 11-26-2013, 02:27 AM   #10
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GC8 is a 2.0l turbo sedan, coupes are chassis code GM, 2.5 in an RS would be E, so it's a GME, not GC8.

GM6 2-door USDM N/A 2.5

GC6 4-door USDM N/A 2.5

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Old 11-26-2013, 07:12 AM   #11
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WORTH IT is all relative. So make up your own mind.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:13 AM   #12
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You have to decide if it's what YOU want. The timing belt needs to be done immediately (by time) and of course, this is in the range of the infamous n/a head gasket issues. Perhaps tell them that you'll pay the $8k if they first replace the head gaskets, timing belt, water pump and tensioner.

Look in NESIC. There's a hybrid turbo 300+ GC8 in the same color that just sold for that price.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:18 PM   #13
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Some slight damage to the rear bumper on the right side. Nothing that can't be fixed. Looks like a nice car. Good luck!
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:28 PM   #14
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You have to decide if it's what YOU want. The timing belt needs to be done immediately (by time) and of course, this is in the range of the infamous n/a head gasket issues. Perhaps tell them that you'll pay the $8k if they first replace the head gaskets, timing belt, water pump and tensioner.

Look in NESIC. There's a hybrid turbo 300+ GC8 in the same color that just sold for that price.
Why do you say the timing belt needs to be replaced immediately ? And how do I justify asking them to replace all of that ? Are all those parts inevitably going to go bad soon ? I know the head gaskets go bad on these cars but I didnt know all that other stuff needed to be replaced too... or is just cuz repairing the head gasket entails repairing the other stuff
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:08 PM   #15
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there is a guy in Jersey selling a mint one with 122k but has all service records. I think he wants 6. might be worth it to save some cash to use for mods
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:12 PM   #16
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haggling is minimal on these cars, if you want it buy it. Try to haggle with them and likely they will just tell you to go find another one with less miles in better condition for the same price ( go on I dare you )

the fact is, there arent many left, and even fewer that are low mileage in good condition, if you find one that you like you are going to pay what it takes to get it.

thats what happens when there is more demand than there is cars.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:19 PM   #17
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What do you mean its not a GC ?
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GC8 is a 2.0l turbo sedan, coupes are chassis code GM, 2.5 in an RS would be E, so it's a GME, not GC8.
Just to clarify, this would be a GM6. You can find these numbers in the VIN, digits 4,5, and 6.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:21 PM   #18
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GM6 2-door USDM N/A 2.5

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Sorry pho_shizzle, I didn't see you already posted this.
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:27 PM   #19
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The price is hard to compare to anything because not alot of low mileage Rs coupes show up. If you think it's worth 7500 then buy it, but the dealer took it in on trade for $4,700 so there is plenty of wiggle room. Put on your poker face and haggle.
How did you find what they paid for it?
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Old 11-26-2013, 05:50 PM   #20
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Lol I was looking at this car to make a 22b out of it. I think this car came from rye ford dealership ...and I remember seeing a tear in the drivers seat too. Weird coincidence. If I were you I would buy that thing! Pronto. As years go by they are just incredibly hard to find.
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:04 PM   #21
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I am assuming it won't be your DD, so if the price is worth it to you and you can afford it, buy it and enjoy it. If it was going to be a DD, my concern would be what the insurance value would be if it was stolen or damaged in a car accident.
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Old 11-27-2013, 06:25 PM   #22
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So I just got back from test driving it. The car runs flawlessly except it just needs an alignment. A check engine light popped up towards the end of the test drive and it turned out to be the catalytic converter. So, by law, they wouldnt let me purchase the car with out fixing it. They are replacing the cat with a new one and I could pick it up in a few days when its ready. They are also giving the car an alignment. Apparently the changed the timing belt and replaced the head gaskets but non of that is on the carfax. They told me they would source out the documentation for the work; it wasnt done at the dealership. There was no burning oil or leaks or anything like taht, the car literally drove perfectly and everything inside and out worked fine. I got a chance to look under the car to inspect for rust and I found some, but it looks to be just surface rust. I tried to take some pictures of it, check them out below.





Do you guys think this is something to worry about?

Also they refuse to budge on the price. I believe this is my fault since I foolishly posted the ad which I believe led to numerous calls in. They know what they have and they wont drop the price for a dime less; at least thats what it sounds like to me. I fell in love with the feel of the car and it is honestly in immaculate condition for a 13 year old car... Does all this justify the price tag ? I have a few days to sleep on it.

Any thoughts?
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:04 PM   #23
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You know you want it, so I vote buy it.
You only live once.
That car, if treated right, has a whole lot more life left in her!
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Old 11-27-2013, 07:11 PM   #24
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Like johnm10 said check the insurance value of the car it would definetly suck to buy and then a few weeks later some drunk hit it or something and only get 4500 back in the pics it looks like normal rust nothing to really worry about
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Old 11-27-2013, 10:43 PM   #25
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seems a bit overpriced, but if its worth it to you.....
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