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Old 12-02-2013, 01:38 PM   #26
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any manual rental car
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:09 PM   #27
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civic was pretty forgiving when I learned.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:53 PM   #28
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I learned on a old dirt bike.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:29 PM   #29
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I learned on an old grain hauling truck with a double axle. For added challenge I forgot to disengage the airbrakes once in a while. When you finally stop and the smell catches up to you, you know you've done good.
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:40 PM   #30
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My suggestion is, like what many have suggested above, ANY manual transmission car you can get your hands on.

If you have the money, you can pick up an older late 80s/early 90s tuner car for around a grand or less. Romp on it for a few months, then turn around and sell it for the same amount you got it for.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:57 PM   #31
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Ill teach you right now. Push in clutch (far left pedal). Start Car. Put car into 1st gear or reverse. Follow the directions on the shifter knob. It has a map. Push gas down to floor (far right pedal). Let clutch out fast, keep holding down gas pedal. Reap rewards. Make sure you have on seatbelt, check mirrors, much gas in tank.
And also make sure there is no kids around and what he said ^ is the easiest way
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:25 PM   #32
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After about an hour of trial and error, you should hopefully have the basics down...
An hour? 15-20 minutes if you have a good teacher
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:32 PM   #33
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BEWARE of anyone who says to use "an older car" or an "easier car". Because going from an "easy" manual to my 2013 WRX was night and day. The clutch is very finicky and I basically had to relearn stick on it. My WRX was my first MT car but I had been practicing on an older outback for a few weeks before buying/test driving my WRX.

It also depends on the teacher. I taught my GF in an afternoon. Took me a few days to get the hang of it (with no teacher). Its not as scary as you think. Just practice. GL its totally worth it, theres been more than a few situations where knowing manual has saved me lol


I broke it down in to 2 steps. Practice hovering the throttle (in neutral) from 1000-2500 RPMS. Once youre able to get between the two smoothly, practice getting into first without using the gas (possible if you let the clutch out very very gently). once you can do those two things well, just combine them and you know how to drive standard! The rest is getting over the fear of traffic haha.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:57 PM   #34
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Anything anyone is willing to let you drive. Mini cooper s was the first standard i drove. Then my friends converted pt cruiser. And my first stick car i owned was an evo 8 with a 6 puck and lightweight flywheel now own an sti and the clutch is simple.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #35
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I learned in a 96 Ford Escort. Stalled it 6 times trying to pull away from the drive up window at the bank after pulling the cash to pay for it. I was 19, she was cute, and both she and my mom, who was in the passenger seat, were laughing their asses off.

All cars behave differently, so I would start with basically anything you can get your hands on. You'll learn as you go on that you have to adapt to the car you're driving. It's pretty common for someone used to driving X car to slip the hell out of the clutch, or stall out, in Y car.

Kudos for wanting to learn though, makes driving much more engaging and entertaining.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:05 PM   #36
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Something with a heavier flywheel so the revs will not move up and down as fast. This will reduce stalling out to some degree.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:22 PM   #37
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Thanks for all the responses the closest relative with a manual is a wrx with stage 1 tuning. I understand the mechanics of a stick its just getting in and doing it
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:20 PM   #38
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Whatever you will be driving regularly. Learn on that...because every manual car is different. Even if you had been practicing all week on Car A, and get in Car B...you'll likely stall it out. Clutch engagement and gas input point is different in every car so it's hard to tell.

Simply take it slow in when learning. Start on a flat surface and let the clutch out very slow. So slow that it begins to lurch forward on it's own. If you do it slow enough you do not need to use any gas input to get it rolling forward with the clutch all the way out. Keep doing this until you have a good idea of the engagement point. Then you can start doing this with gas input to move forward quicker.

After that, then it's hill drills. Find a slight incline and let the clutch out while giving it gas input like you just got down...but do it a little faster. Learn to do it this way...not the way with the handbrake. Master this and you will be extremely comfortable with the engagement point of the clutch in your car ready for any situation.

Large apartment complexes are good places to practice this in.
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:56 AM   #39
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I’m not kidding. Go to a Penske or Hertz rental and rent a 5 ton truck with manual transmission and low range. Have a friend drive it to a large empty parking lot and then you take over. Put it in low range and you can’t bog it down and it will be very forgiving. After you have mastered that, shift to high range and practice some more. When you have that down pat, move to a jeep like 4x4, again put it in low range till you master that then go to high range. Then Bob’s your uncle.
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:06 AM   #40
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Iím not kidding. Go to a Penske or Hertz rental and rent a 5 ton truck with manual transmission and low range. Have a friend drive it to a large empty parking lot and then you take over. Put it in low range and you canít bog it down and it will be very forgiving. After you have mastered that, shift to high range and practice some more. When you have that down pat, move to a jeep like 4x4, again put it in low range till you master that then go to high range. Then Bobís your uncle.
or just try learning on something even remotely close to what he will be driving instead?
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:18 AM   #41
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It's a great skill to learn for sure. I learned on my dad's old 81 ford f350... Not too bad, but you had to have a pretty strong left leg.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:44 PM   #42
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Old Toyotas are good.
This. They VERY forgiving (generally speaking, of course).
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:51 PM   #43
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Besides the real world experience everyone is talking about, I think you also need to understand what is happening mechanically. Check out:

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission4.htm

Many people learn stick as a bunch of "do this"; which doesn't tell you why you're doing it and you lose important info. Understanding the above teaches you why the engagement point of the clutch feels like it does and it's significance, why rev matching is important, etc.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:51 PM   #44
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Iím not kidding. Go to a Penske or Hertz rental and rent a 5 ton truck with manual transmission and low range. Have a friend drive it to a large empty parking lot and then you take over. Put it in low range and you canít bog it down and it will be very forgiving. After you have mastered that, shift to high range and practice some more. When you have that down pat, move to a jeep like 4x4, again put it in low range till you master that then go to high range. Then Bobís your uncle.

or just try learning on something even remotely close to what he will be driving instead
The hard part is developing the muscle memory and timing. That is easier to develop in a truck that is not as temperamental or prone to stall. There are slight differences from car to car, but that is easy once you have the muscle memory down to the point that you donít have to consciously think ďease off clutch, ease on gas, yes, yes, NO!Ē
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:09 PM   #45
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You really need a car you can put some time in on. It's all about stick time.
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:32 PM   #46
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OP said he gets the mechanics of driving stick, yet (and this is something I've had to try and deal with myself), driving hydraulic clutch versus cable clutch can be a little off putting for sure.

I'd definitely recommend learning on whatever car will be closest to what you will be driving. Stop and go traffic will definitely teach you the hard way (as well as strengthening that left calf), and try to have fun with it. Subaru's with stock clutches are very easy to learn manual on.


And remember, you're going to stall. It's going to happen. Eventually you'll learn when you're about to, and catch it to keep the engine going. Best of luck to you OP!
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:57 PM   #47
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I plan on getting a wrx evo or sti even maybe a 2.5rs if I can get my hands on one
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:51 AM   #48
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Any car with a manual transmission.


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The answer is always "Miata".
Truer words have hardly ever been spoken.

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If you have a friend with a hopelessly slipping clutch, that would be an easy way to learn the basics. Then get in a car with a good clutch and you'll at least have the mechanics down.
Try for a car with a good clutch. If you go from broken to working, you'll either burn out the good one or end up burning out every time you leave a parking space.

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See above @ Miata. Just try for one with some low end torque. V6 or V8, because if you can take off without using the gas pedal, you'll learn how to better modulate the clutch. You'll feel it before it stalls and compensate better.


I vote for early-90's Chevy S-10.
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