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Old 12-12-2013, 09:59 AM   #1
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Default Motor won't turn over (starter issue)

So I swapped motors recently and never had this issue. Was driving in today and I turned off my car and now it won't turn back on. Ditched the car and will go try to mess with it after work.

Starter sounds like it tries to turn over and then rapid clicking. I'm thinking solenoid. Have all power to instruments and drove halfway into work. Never had starter issues before but lots has been addressed under the hood. Mainly feul pump/filter for your need to knows.

Any help appreciated. Thx
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:17 PM   #2
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No love? I have to do something, I may grab a starter and go try to throw it on on the side of the road. Otherwise I'll have to tow it and I really dont want to start this process over again. Thanks!
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:18 PM   #3
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Sound goes: uh-UH-uh click click click click.

All power is good so I think battery is ok.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:45 PM   #4
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What does "all power is good" mean? And how did you come to that conclusion?

Sounds like voltage problem. What the voltage at the starter when trying to crank?
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:09 PM   #5
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Battery is dead, or starter is bad. The click click click happens like this: You turn the key, the relay (solenoid) is closed, sends power to the starter. The starter pulls more power than the battery has, and there isn't enough left over for the relay, so the relay opens, stopping power to the starter, the battery recovers enough to power the relay, and process happens all over again.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:35 PM   #6
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What does "all power is good" mean? And how did you come to that conclusion?
All electronics come on, doubtful it's battery. Car was driving, made it halfway to work, I shut off car and it wouldn't turn back over. Haven't had a single starter or battery problem yet over my recent issues.


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Battery is dead, or starter is bad. The click click click happens like this: You turn the key, the relay (solenoid) is closed, sends power to the starter. The starter pulls more power than the battery has, and there isn't enough left over for the relay, so the relay opens, stopping power to the starter, the battery recovers enough to power the relay, and process happens all over again.
Yea I'm thinking starter except I've not had any problems with it to date. I will try to grab one and throw it on on the side of the blvd see if it fires up. Are you saying it may also be the relay?
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Old 12-12-2013, 03:38 PM   #7
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What bacon is saying, and what I was narrowing down to is that the battery does not have enough oomph to keep the relay(solenoid) closed once the starter draws current. A bad/weak battery or a starter that is drawing too much current can result in a clicking relay. If you check the current and voltage at the starter or the battery when trying to crank, you should be able to determine which one it is.
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Old 12-12-2013, 04:28 PM   #8
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Got ya even though not totally dead, not enough juice to turn crank over. Luckily I got my buddy and we jumped it, wouldn't ya know fired right up. Going to let it run and disconnect batt to see if it's starter or battery and not alternator.

Thanks for the info!!!
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:34 PM   #9
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Disconnecting the battery on modern cars while running isn't good for it, something to do with voltage spikes. I'd recommend NOT doing that. You can test your alt and battery at a parts store for free.
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If you have a multimeter just check the voltage of the battery before you turn the car on should be around 12v

then check it when its running, should be around 14v when the car is running, if it doesn't go up its the charging system, if it does go up its the battery.

If you don't have a multimeter you can go into the parts store like yarrgh mentioned but do not disconnect the battery while the car is running
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Old 12-19-2013, 05:45 AM   #11
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now this may sound stupid but clean your terminals on the starter switch. if they are greasy or dirty they may not be conducting all or any of the currant it needs to power the motor. happened to me and took me a while to nut it out.
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now this may sound stupid but clean your terminals on the starter switch. if they are greasy or dirty they may not be conducting all or any of the currant it needs to power the motor. happened to me and took me a while to nut it out.
Not stupid at all, it's actually a very good suggestion. Usually, it's the battery terminals that corrode, but the connections to the starter could very well be corroded as well.

Funny story: I bought a "non-running" Ford escort once from a guy for $150 because he thought it had really bad wiring issues. I took it home cleaned the battery cables and drove it for a year.
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Check your terminals -- solved my shut down issue. Even if it looks tight, you could have a loose connection. Took me a while to figure this out, but if you have an aftermarket battery, the terminals could be slightly thinner than stock and cause an issue for you. I literally flipped my positive wire [connector thing] upside down, and that fixed it after much trial and error.
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:50 PM   #14
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Buddy gave me a multimeter to use so I didn't need to. 12 and 13v I think the starter is beginning to go. Turns out no battery tie down so maybe something jostled loose but connections seemed ok and low corrosion. It's been ok since jump but I have larger issues to undo from ****ty work. Takes a few times to actually turn over now but fires strong with a wacky idle. I'm going to try a new throttle body or I may have a clog in the fuel line somewhere.
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