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Old 12-31-2013, 05:41 AM   #26
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Because it's two separate areas with different levels of interest. If people from Brandon want to drive way out of there way to meet up with the Tampa guys, they can follow that thread too.
Just want to make sure there is no beef between us. At the end, we all friends.
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:26 AM   #27
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Why would you think there is beef?
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Old 12-31-2013, 06:38 AM   #28
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Why would you think there is beef?
Because you don't talk to me like you used to
But anyways. Cool then
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:32 AM   #29
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Bc I'm not driving 45 min to a car meet of guys who are arguing about dumb crap lol
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Because it's two separate areas with different levels of interest. If people from Brandon want to drive way out of there way to meet up with the Tampa guys, they can follow that thread too.
Ditto!
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:51 AM   #30
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What is everyone doing for NYE?
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:55 AM   #31
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What is everyone doing for NYE?
Nothing. Brent's family drove down from Cincinnati so we are hanging out with them. Bridal shower is the 1st so no hangovers or fun for me, oh well.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:06 AM   #32
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If you never get sober from the night before you wont have a hangover.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:57 AM   #33
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If you never get sober from the night before you wont have a hangover.
Hahaha this must be true if it's coming from you

I work until 2, what is everyone else doing??
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:01 AM   #34
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Working until 2.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:08 AM   #35
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Just going to my friends house. Wine tasting and making some food. I gotta work tomorrow
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:11 AM   #36
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Boo work.
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:47 AM   #37
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Just going to my friends house. Wine tasting and making some food. I gotta work tomorrow
Ewww really?? Who's open on new years?
I wonder if Costco or publix will be open lol
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Old 12-31-2013, 09:54 AM   #38
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Publix will be open, Costco will not.
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:05 AM   #39
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Publix will be open, Costco will not.
Need to get gas today then. Food tomorrow lol
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:07 AM   #40
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You get Costco gas?
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:10 AM   #41
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:21 AM   #42
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Ewww really?? Who's open on new years?
I wonder if Costco or publix will be open lol
24/7 girl. but honestly, i could have taken off and sat around my house all day being hungover, but i would like that holiday pay you know!
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:25 AM   #43
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You get Costco gas?
.20 cheaper than everyone else for premium
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Old 12-31-2013, 10:32 AM   #44
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.20 cheaper than everyone else for premium
Generally speaking, Costco gas sucks. There is a reason it's 20 cents cheaper than the major brands. Prepare to have your mind blown:

"Potentially, there can be huge differences in what's sold at the pump by different brands.

The "state laws" only specify the minimum legal standards for a given fuel such as octane, RVP, etc.

But the marketing decisions of various retailers can exceed those standards according to many parameters. They include how much alcohol percentage is in the fuel, by how much a given octane fuel at the pump may exceed it's rating, what FI system additives may be in the fuel, the RVP (Reid Vapor Point) of the blend, and so forth.

Much depends upon the region of the country and EPA mandates for the fuels to be sold there. I've seen wide swings in fuel quality from all the retailers, some of which radically affected the performance of a lot of cars. For example, some blends in our area had a high RVP, and various cars would vapor lock or have difficulty starting on hot days. One problem I always had in my cars was that Conoco fuel was the lowest octane for it's rating at the pump, so I could buy "regular" there and get pinging in my cars while at other local brands (including the supermarket and Sam's Club fuel), I could buy regular gas and not have the problem. Still other fuels are sold with a significantly higher percentage of EPA mandated alcohol and are in excess of what the car was designed to accept; fuel system leaks, lower fuel economy, or a host of problems associated with the corrossive aspects of the fuel could show up.

Similarly, I've seen (for over 40 years) wide differences in the quality of diesel fuels at the pump, even though there is a minimum standard for low sulfur diesel fuel re cetane rating and other characteristics. I've gotten loads of diesel fuel in my pick-up trucks that vary hugely in ease of starting from cold, idle quality, injector plugging up running symptoms, and wide variations in fuel economy ... as much as a 20% loss of fuel mileage and a truck that runs like *****. Have had to add fuel system conditioner/cleaner/cetane booster to correct this problems; sometimes, it's taken a few miles to clear up the running symptoms (but not the lowered fuel economy), sometimes, it's taken hundreds of miles to clear up the symptoms from poorer quality diesel fuel.

Just because a local marketplace is served by one refinery supplying all of the fuel to an area, it does not equate to the final product at the pump being equal for a given grade/octane of fuel dispensed. Additive blends and percentages are proprietary to a given brand.

Bottom line: each marketer has their own proprietary formulation for the product that is sold at their pump. It can change from delivered load to the next, but some brands consistently deliver the lowest common denominator fuel legally possible to sell, while others choose to sell a better product. The swings in fuel quality are so big in my home area that I bought a gasoline test kit to check for moisture in fuel, contaminants, alcohol content, and RVP ... and could trace a fair number of running problems in my customer's cars back to the fuel that they were buying, especially if they consistently bought from one brand in the area.

SouthernBelle ... please note that I'm talking specifically about the fuels sold in our area of the country. I don't know what they sell in New England or the PNW where some of these posters are coming from, but I can assure you that I've seen the differences in fuel quality in our marketplace here in the Rocky Mountain region ... and I'm a pro in the auto biz with a 40+ year track record of servicing cars in this area. Even today, I call upon all the automotive shops in a multi-state region and I see the problems that they encounter with fuels and car performance issues. As it is, I've driven from CO or WY to SLC enough times per year over the last decades to have personal experience with everything from Maverik to Coastal to Bradley to all of the major brands sold in our marketplace as well as the discount market fuels ... and they vary hugely, despite the assertions of other posters.

Buy the appropriate octane rating for your car, but be particular about how you car starts, idles, runs and fuel economy for a given brand. You may find that changing brands at the pump will give you improvements in some areas, but only by trying one supplier for awhile and then changing to see the difference will you be able to tell.

FWIW, modern computerized FI systems don't always compensate well for fuels that gum up/varnish quickly compared to others, or fuels with alcohol content in excess of 12% (I've tested some that came in at 20% while supposed to be no more than 12%), or fuels that don't have a good additive pack and carbon up the intake tract of an engine. The fuels can make huge differences in this area.

PS: FWIW, I've gotten excellent fuel at Harmon's when I stopped in to get their 10cent/gallon discount for a minimum grocery store purchase while in the area. As well, at WalMart's fuel islands. Both represented a significant savings at the pump over major brands in the SLC area."
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:00 AM   #45
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I try to stick with Shell and she always seems to run well. Plus I have their free fuel card so I always get at least 3 cents offs. I know it's not much but hey every penny counts when you own a Wrx haha.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:24 AM   #46
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Generally speaking, Costco gas sucks. There is a reason it's 20 cents cheaper than the major brands. Prepare to have your mind blown:
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1) Buys gas from the lowest bidder and aren't tied contractually to a distributor.
2) Does not make any profits from the sale and instead uses it as a value-add to their membership.

I've been using it for 14 year in two different parts of the state. I've put their gas in turbocharged cars, naturally aspirated cars and direct injected cars. I've never had a problem.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:34 AM   #47
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used costco for a while and didnt have a problem with the 93 ever. now i run e85 from thortons and no issues either. oh except for those 80 cents a gallon i save dont give me no crap about gas mileage, i counter with +50whp

im on bloomindale near john moore. blue wrx probably driving too fast. i wave/thumbs up every wrx/sti i see. sometimes other models but they usually dont know why im doing it.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:34 AM   #48
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Costco:
1) Buys gas from the lowest bidder and aren't tied contractually to a distributor.
2) Does not make any profits from the sale and instead uses it as a value-add to their membership.

I've been using it for 14 year in two different parts of the state. I've put their gas in turbocharged cars, naturally aspirated cars and direct injected cars. I've never had a problem.
Who gives a damn about whether or not they are contractually obligated to their distributors? That doesn't mean they buy good gas. If anything that would dissuade me from buying their fuel because it's not going through the same QA every time they are buying fuel. And who cares if they don't make money off their fuel sales? I still wouldn't put their premium fuel in anything I've had tuned.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:36 AM   #49
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used costco for a while and didnt have a problem with the 93 ever. now i run e85 from thortons and no issues either. oh except for those 80 cents a gallon i save dont give me no crap about gas mileage, i counter with +50whp

im on bloomindale near john moore. blue wrx probably driving too fast. i wave/thumbs up every wrx/sti i see. sometimes other models but they usually dont know why im doing it.
I'd run e85 in a heartbeat. I don't have a car that warrants that right now.
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:41 AM   #50
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i just get gas wherever i dont really care lol i like 7-11 cause they have 91
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