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Old 01-17-2014, 07:53 PM   #26
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EMRA posted on their forum that they are now Nov 1-2 on Summit main for 2014 (date swap w/ NASA from last year) and may also add a date at Shenandoah or the extended Jefferson.
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Old 01-25-2014, 07:14 AM   #27
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Hmm. Getting timed causes some people drive beyond their ability, and throw in being out there with other cars and people can get dumb. Perfect example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGR0YN40PIU

In the Rally are you wheel to wheel with other cars or pretty much by yourself?
Why would you ever attempt to pass at that turn? Wow. I've seen more videos of cars going off at that turn than any other. My instructor at the last event was awesome and without his experience I would have actually been driving slower on track. I can't imagine someone who "thinks" they can "drive" going out there on their own.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:47 PM   #28
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Why would you ever attempt to pass at that turn? Wow. I've seen more videos of cars going off at that turn than any other. My instructor at the last event was awesome and without his experience I would have actually been driving slower on track. I can't imagine someone who "thinks" they can "drive" going out there on their own.
I don't think anyone is arguing that they should be turned loose alone w/o first being signed off by an instructor who has riden along.

I still took my instructor (World Challenge driver) with me even after he had signed off on my license to run by myself. No brainer.

Didn't watch the video but EMRA limits passing to very limited straights w/ waveby for novice and intermediate Time Trial groups. Also, usually smaller run groups so less traffic.
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Old 01-31-2014, 10:27 PM   #29
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I don't think anyone is arguing that they should be turned loose alone w/o first being signed off by an instructor who has riden along.

I still took my instructor (World Challenge driver) with me even after he had signed off on my license to run by myself. No brainer.

Didn't watch the video but EMRA limits passing to very limited straights w/ waveby for novice and intermediate Time Trial groups. Also, usually smaller run groups so less traffic.
No argument from this guy. A few yrs back I did several track days sans instructor in a low hp civic. I would have had to do something idiotic to hurt myself in that car. Regardless, I prefer an instructors' experienced eye on me.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:04 AM   #30
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- I may do the first VIR event on the new pavement in March (in which case I would skip the SCCA PDX the following weekend).
Not surprisingly, the Chin event in early March is already booked up. Rather than go on the waiting list and hope, I'll just skip that one and do the PDX the following week.

Either way, I need to get off my ass and take care of some things on the CTS-V to have it ready. Unfortunately, it's my DD right now, so that's a little bit complicated!
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Oh come on. The H6 legacy won't be ready in a month?!
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Oh come on. The H6 legacy won't be ready in a month?!
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/07/09/h...ental-counter/

Given the choice for newbies between EMRA one weekend and NASA the adjacent weekend, w/ EMRA you are being timed including when your instructor is onboard essentially competing in the time trial the entire weekend. The lap times are posted to be used as a tool if you wish. Smaller club is smaller run groups is less traffic. More interesting machinery seems to show up at EMRA (Pantera, Ferrari, Panoz, ...than NASA). Do well in your class and get trophies.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:31 PM   #33
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Oh come on. The H6 legacy won't be ready in a month?!
Not so much. I might get it out of the garage in a month.

First post will be updated shortly with Pitt Race PDE dates - credit to bettner12 for giving me the heads up on those.
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:11 AM   #34
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- I still have yet to get to NJMP, so I'd like to do that at some point this year.
I went up there for my first time early last year and totally loved it.......I was practically forced to go but after my experience I would go again anytime.

my only advice when going up there is to avoid the tolls at all cost!......especially the MD ones......if you have a double axel trailer plan on taking like $100!.......sometimes you get a nice toll attendant that will look the other way and only charge you for a one axel trailer but dont count on it (thats like a $12 difference at each toll).
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Old 02-10-2014, 03:42 PM   #35
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I mentioned in an earlier post the TrackCross events that Pitt Race put on last year. They also put this year's dates on their site.
http://www.pittrace.com/trackcross
April 23rd
May 21st
June 4th
July 2nd
July 23rd
August 13th
September 3rd
September 24th
October 8th

Not sure if these belong on the "Track Day" thread, but these events are a GREAT way for people to transition from autox or just test the waters driving on a road course. They run from the start/finish through turns 1-8 with a start and finish like an autox. These events are SUPER low key and a great way to spend an evening (4-8pm) with a bunch of different type of cars and car folk. You'll see autox prepped, road race prepped, resto-mods/pro-touring, dailys and probably lots of Subarus.

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Old 02-10-2014, 03:54 PM   #36
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OK, not in MAIC but worth the drive. Chasing the Dragon Hillclimb March 22-23 in N Carolina. Roadrace cars, streetcars, musclecars, rallycars, hillclimb specials on a 2.2 mile paved hillclimb w/ gaurdrails or embankments entire way so no crazy cliffs to fall off. usually at least a couple Subies show up and one already on entrylist for next event.

http://www.dragonhillclimb.com/

I plan to be there w/ the Lancia WRC car again.

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OK, not in MAIC but worth the drive. Chasing the Dragon Hillclimb March 22-23 in N Carolina. Roadrace cars, streetcars, musclecars, rallycars, hillclimb specials on a 2.2 mile paved hillclimb w/ gaurdrails or embankments entire way so no crazy cliffs to fall off. usually at least a couple Subies show up and one already on entrylist for next event.

http://www.dragonhillclimb.com/

I plan to be there w/ the Lancia WRC car again.
Are you driving this? Nice to see these cars still being driven/race.
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I really want to do HPDE events, learn how to properly drive my car the way it was built to be driven.
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I really want to do HPDE events, learn how to properly drive my car the way it was built to be driven.
Well, you came to the right thread. Look at the schedule. Pick an event. Sign up. Enjoy.
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^^ and to add to that.... the organizers of these events are very knowledgeable and are there to have fun just like you will, make sure you take advantage of them and not just listed but also ask a lot of questions
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Are you driving this? Nice to see these cars still being driven/race.
I codrive it. This particular one has history including winning several WRC events. Its referred to as an Italian national treasure and nicknamed the 'Queen of Italy'. Not so happy are some Italians who were first upset that it was exported to the US and then that we are racing it instead of being in a musuem. But I'm w/ you, its meant to be heard and seen at speed.

Wonder what all may get added to Summit schedules. The addition of the Jefferson making it more attactive for real events and seems local drifters (Drift Nirvana) may have lost Summit Point so perhaps more open dates for racing.
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I really want to do HPDE events, learn how to properly drive my car the way it was built to be driven.
Should we have a list somewhere for the prep someone with a stock WRX or STI should take when taking their car to a Track event?

mav1c had a student last year in a Stock WRX that by the end of the weekend had completely toasted the stock brakes. I'm talking like seals blowing completely out of the calipers, completely worn out pads and destroyed rotors.
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Should we have a list somewhere for the prep someone with a stock WRX or STI should take when taking their car to a Track event?

mav1c had a student last year in a Stock WRX that by the end of the weekend had completely toasted the stock brakes. I'm talking like seals blowing completely out of the calipers, completely worn out pads and destroyed rotors.

List would be nice, I just assume pick up a set of track day tires, better brake compound and possibly set up air vents to cool the brakes down.
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List would be nice, I just assume pick up a set of track day tires, better brake compound and possibly set up air vents to cool the brakes down.
I thought that there is one.

I was told high temp fluid and pads. In my first few events there were several stock wrx's and lgt. Most didn't have either and made it through the day.
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Should we have a list somewhere for the prep someone with a stock WRX or STI should take when taking their car to a Track event?

mav1c had a student last year in a Stock WRX that by the end of the weekend had completely toasted the stock brakes. I'm talking like seals blowing completely out of the calipers, completely worn out pads and destroyed rotors.
It was really quite odd. The student had a 2012 WRX. Completely stock except for Carbotech XP8 (or maybe they were XP10) pads and ATE fluid. He wasn't doing anything different or wrong for a first timer. Actually picked it up pretty quickly. I couldn't believe how much his brakes were destroyed. The only thing I could think of was that he was riding the brake and I didn't notice, the calipers were sticking somehow, or the stock rotors just couldn't take it. Honestly they are pretty tiny for the speed/weight that car can do.

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i was thinking the same thing.....usually I advice people to concentrate on technique/being smooth and stock brakes should be ok.........asuming its the students first time and the brakes are in good condition before they start
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It was really quite odd. The student had a 2012 WRX. Completely stock except for Carbotech XP8 (or maybe they were XP10) pads and ATE fluid. He wasn't doing anything different or wrong for a first timer. Actually picked it up pretty quickly. I couldn't believe how much his brakes were destroyed. The only thing I could think of was that he was riding the brake and I didn't notice, the calipers were sticking somehow, or the stock rotors just couldn't take it. Honestly they are pretty tiny for the speed/weight that car can do.
The guy was a friend of a friend and I saw the pictures on Facebook. Its like his brake fluid boiled and completely blew out his calipers. Crazy.
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Should we have a list somewhere for the prep someone with a stock WRX or STI should take when taking their car to a Track event?
It's kind of a recurring topic in the Motorsports forum. Much like many topics (every topic?) on the interwebs, there are differing opinions of what is really necessary. Here's a good example. And another.

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List would be nice, I just assume pick up a set of track day tires, better brake compound and possibly set up air vents to cool the brakes down.
If by "track day tires" you mean R-compounds, then I would say NO (and many clubs won't even let a novice run R-compounds). If by "track day tires" you mean "some good summer tires that will survive a track event because my current dirt cheap Mastercraft all-season tires will fall apart", then I would say YES.
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A variety of updates to the original post:

- Asphalt Ventures' March 1/2 event on VIR-Patriot is now on VIR's calendar, so I removed the comment about the status of that event being unknown
- Summit Point FATT dates are added to the list
- Nelson Ledges Fun Days dates are added to to the list
- AZP Track Events has updated their site with a one-day event at NJMP in June, which is on the list

Those were the last 3 clubs/organizations I was waiting on to update their 2014 calendars, so I don't anticipate any further significant updates. However, if anyone finds out about some club(s) or event(s) that should be added, please let me know.
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A variety of updates to the original post:

- Asphalt Ventures' March 1/2 event on VIR-Patriot is now on VIR's calendar, so I removed the comment about the status of that event being unknown
- Summit Point FATT dates are added to the list
- Nelson Ledges Fun Days dates are added to to the list
- AZP Track Events has updated their site with a one-day event at NJMP in June, which is on the list

Those were the last 3 clubs/organizations I was waiting on to update their 2014 calendars, so I don't anticipate any further significant updates. However, if anyone finds out about some club(s) or event(s) that should be added, please let me know.
Thanks.

I think I was a bit optimistic with my events. Probably won't be doing much until mid-summer/fall.
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