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Old 02-07-2014, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default 2014 STi baseline dyno results

Event: 3 Dyno pulls
Location: Engine Logics (Houston)
Ambient Temp: 40 F
Elevation: About Sea Level
Weather: Cold, Just started raining/humid, overcast.

Car: 2014 STi
Dyno Info: Dyno Dynamics
Peak HP at RPM: 217.6whp @ 6500
Peak Torque at RPM: 225.7ftlb @ 3650
Fuel: 93 octane unleaded
Modifications: OEM


Here are my 3 dyno runs from Engine Logics in Houston. Unfortunately I'm on the low end of the baseline dyno But oh well, combination of luck of the draw and humid weather. Here are the results. First is the TQ + HP, 2nd is air/fuel + HP, and the 3rd is tq / turbo PSI. Let me know what you think. I have pretty bad luck getting factory freaks, i always get the factory dud. I will have another dyno up in a week or 2 once my Cobb intake/Accessport comes in. It will be the canned Cobb tune... once I hit stage 2 (about 1-2 months) I will be getting a dynotune.



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Old 02-07-2014, 11:18 PM   #2
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Was this in sport or sport sharp?
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:29 PM   #3
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That is a good question. I honestly have no idea. Would it even make a difference on top end horsepower? It seems like it only changes throttle response.
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Old 02-08-2014, 01:43 AM   #4
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217hp, really? wow! that dyno reads really low. If I were you, screw that place. Since you're in Tex, Id go straight to Cobb for tuning.
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:32 AM   #5
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That is a good question. I honestly have no idea. Would it even make a difference on top end horsepower? It seems like it only changes throttle response.
That is also a good question, lol! I know it makes a difference on my TP stage 2 tune. Not sure about stock though.
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Old 02-09-2014, 09:46 AM   #6
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Ive been there. Their dyno does read low and they aren't cheap for what they do.

I ended up making the drive to plano for my subsequent tunes, never got a good vibe from those dudes for whatever reason.
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Old 02-09-2014, 11:45 AM   #7
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actually the driving modes dont just change the throttle response, it advances and retards the timing as well.
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Old 02-09-2014, 01:36 PM   #8
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actually the driving modes dont just change the throttle response, it advances and retards the timing as well.
I was told by Eric (torqued performance) the only thing you can touch between s and s# is the boost and throttle position
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Old 02-09-2014, 01:51 PM   #9
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I was told by Eric (torqued performance) the only thing you can touch between s and s# is the boost and throttle position
The difference in mode changes the requested torque by pedal angle. Boost and throttle position go off of requested trq. If the car hits more boost it will have a higher load which means it will change timing cells and thus lower timing for more boost. The different modes don't directly control timing, but they indirectly do it by the amount of boost/load the car runs.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:12 PM   #10
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Anyone have a baseline dyno that they know was using sport # they can post on this thread. Not to compare power, just want to see the graphs
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:30 PM   #11
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That dyno reads 16% lower than a dynojet. Hence why a mustang or dyno dynamics is refered to as heart breakers. So at 217hp that equates to around 250hp on a dynojet which looks like the numbers are right on par with previous year sti's.

Most dyno dynamics are ran on a correction factor of 1 which would put out around your same numbers for a stock sti. Ive seen stage 2 wrx's only do 190hp on a dyno dynamics which is normal for that dyno on a 1 correction factor.
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:37 PM   #12
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217hp, really? wow! that dyno reads really low. If I were you, screw that place. .
Yeah forget those guys! Go somewhere that says your stock sti has 250whp and then you can brag about inflated numbers!
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:22 PM   #13
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well, im going to go back on the same dyno next week when i throw on my cobb intake and tune (stage 1 i guess) so at least ill see the actual consistent results.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:02 PM   #14
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well, im going to go back on the same dyno next week when i throw on my cobb intake and tune (stage 1 i guess) so at least ill see the actual consistent results.
And this is exactly what dynos should be used for.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:42 AM   #15
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Don't let a dyno put you down, some people are lucky and get a gifted motor while others don't. Look at it as an excuse to mod some more!!!

On a side note a few weeks back i was at a dyno and some lucky guy dyno 244whp on a stock 2011 wrx (via mustang dyno) I was quite jealous! But my 238whp was second best for stock so can't complain
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Looks right for a lower reading dyno. They put down 200-205whp stock on our dyno on 91 octane. I imagine it would be right around this power on 93.

The guys saying to go elsewhere because the dyno reads low are clowns. There is nothing wrong with the dyno... It's just not inflated like most out there. If you want dynojet numbers, have the dyno operator apply a 1.15 correction factor.

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Don't let a dyno put you down, some people are lucky and get a gifted motor while others don't. Look at it as an excuse to mod some more!!!

On a side note a few weeks back i was at a dyno and some lucky guy dyno 244whp on a stock 2011 wrx (via mustang dyno) I was quite jealous! But my 238whp was second best for stock so can't complain
Depending on when the mustang dyno was recalibrated you may have some inflated numbers. The more recent calibration puts a mustang dyno almost on par with a dynojet (within 3-5%, instead of the 15% difference of the past). This is why you can't compare numbers from any two dynos, regardless of brand. I prefer a lower reading so I can embarrass people with their "400hp" cars.
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:32 PM   #18
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that factory AFR between 3-4k makes me cringe every time i see it...
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217hp, really? wow! that dyno reads really low. If I were you, screw that place. Since you're in Tex, Id go straight to Cobb for tuning.
Lol. Thats not low at all. Thats accurate.

Go get some inflated dynojet numbers and convince yourself your car makes more power than it really does.

Hell, on dynojet i make well over 400 wheel on 91 with an FP red...



I've seen stock STIs make 195-220 whp on 91.
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Old 02-13-2014, 05:26 PM   #20
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ha. ha. You guys got it all wrong. I said screw that place not because so he can get an inflated number but since he is in Texas, why not go straight to the mothership, Cobb Plano? Ive been here long enough to know that each dyno will always be different. Thus just pick one place to use as benchmark, and why not Cobb?

http://www.complex.com/rides/2013/04...ps-in-america/

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Old 02-13-2014, 09:04 PM   #21
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ha. ha. You guys got it all wrong. I said screw that place not because so he can get an inflated number but since he is in Texas, why not go straight to the mothership, Cobb Plano? Ive been here long enough to know that each dyno will always be different. Thus just pick one place to use as benchmark, and why not Cobb?

http://www.complex.com/rides/2013/04...ps-in-america/
The OP probably didnt want to drive 4 hours to get a dyno run.
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:56 AM   #22
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The OP probably didnt want to drive 4 hours to get a dyno run.
Exactly... I'll probably go there shortly after getting the downpipe, but not just for a dyno.
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:40 AM   #23
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Exactly... I'll probably go there shortly after getting the downpipe, but not just for a dyno.
Yeah, and get a new baseline if you want to continue to use that dyno.

Without a baseline you have no idea what kind of gains your making with your mods.
You need to stick with the same dyno (baseline and after mods) and don't let the baseline number bother you.

As mentioned, I know guys that search out the dynos that are known to be very generous with their numbers. Then they brag about how much HP/Tq their car is making.
Then they go to the track and run slower times than guys that dynoed much lower than them.
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