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Old 02-07-2014, 11:11 PM   #1
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Default Speaker fitment: Extended door pins - installed pics?

Hi all,
Have an '04 STi, at initial stages of planning a stereo upgrade and running into the familiar problems of speaker fitment.

It seems a lot of people wind up using extended door pins to give some clearance between the front of the speaker and the door card. But what do most of you do to 'hide' the fact that the door card no longer sits flush against the door? Do you add foam? Some black plastic trim? Or just leave it gaping?

Can anyone throw up some pics of what it looks like with the door card installed with the extended door pins? Is it obvious that it doesn't sit flush? I haven't been able to find any such pics using the search.

Thanks!
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:56 AM   #2
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If you use the correct spacer, the door panel will still sit flush. I have a set of Alpine Type R components in my 04 STi with no fitment issues at all. Unless you are going full on competition (in which case you would be going full fiberglass anyway), you will have no issues if done correctly.
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Old 02-08-2014, 02:51 PM   #3
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If you use the correct spacer, the door panel will still sit flush. I have a set of Alpine Type R components in my 04 STi with no fitment issues at all. Unless you are going full on competition (in which case you would be going full fiberglass anyway), you will have no issues if done correctly.
Any chance you know the model number of these? Then I can look up dimensions from that.

No I'm not going to competition levels. Just a modest system.

I was looking at some Focal's and told by an installer that only the shallow mount versions will fit, but I don't like the sound nearly as much. He said I can't use a very deep spacer because then the rubber surround will rub the door card because in the '04 the panel contours into the map pocket which really restricts space. I know the iaperformance kit lists mounting depths that will fit the Focals, but I emailed them and they told me that the '04 needs to use the extension pins which keeps the door card from sitting flush at least on the bottom edge.

Thanks though - maybe I 'll see what Alpine options there are with a fairly shallow mounting depth.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:33 PM   #4
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I have no issues at all with my 04 and the Alpines which have a large magnet. With a proper spacer you can fit a very good speaker in there.
http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/spr-60c/

If you want a decent speaker for a good price, I have installed hundreds of speakers and I am in love with my Type R components. They are some of the best speakers I've owned for the price. But don't plan on using them without a 4 channel amp...
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:42 PM   #5
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i have no issues with my 06' and i have Alpine Type-X 6.5's in the doors with IA spacers to clear the magnets...door cards fit fine with stock pins

i had to take the crossover cases off and remove some styrofoam to clear them and my Seas Neo tweets just barely fit in stock location after i trimmed some plastic on the tweets themselves with a set of snips

the sound is amazing...the Seas Neo tweets are worlds better than even the Type X's
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:25 AM   #6
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I've been looking at some Focal's and maybe they typically have a deeper mounting depth than the Alpines. I really liked the 165 KR (even more so than the much more expensive KRX2) and the polyglass V30. But they have a mounting depth about 71mm. I was told that only the VRS will fit without the extended door pins, with a mounting depth of 56mm.

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I have no issues at all with my 04 and the Alpines which have a large magnet. With a proper spacer you can fit a very good speaker in there.
http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/spr-60c/

If you want a decent speaker for a good price, I have installed hundreds of speakers and I am in love with my Type R components. They are some of the best speakers I've owned for the price. But don't plan on using them without a 4 channel amp...
These do have a pretty low mounting depth: 59mm. I'll have to find a shop with these to listen to. I do like the idea of making the install easy on myself, and if they give a good bang-for-the-buck, then I'll consider them for sure.

So do you leave out the crossovers and do an active setup with the 4-ch amp?


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i have no issues with my 06' and i have Alpine Type-X 6.5's in the doors with IA spacers to clear the magnets...door cards fit fine with stock pins

i had to take the crossover cases off and remove some styrofoam to clear them and my Seas Neo tweets just barely fit in stock location after i trimmed some plastic on the tweets themselves with a set of snips

the sound is amazing...the Seas Neo tweets are worlds better than even the Type X's
These are a bit deeper than the Type R's but not as deep as the Focals. But since you have an '06 it doesn't help me. Your door card has the circular speaker grill all at the same elevation, and the map pocket contours to it. But in the '04 the non-circular speaker grill contours to the map pocket and sort of dips in to the speaker location. So I've been told if you put in a thick spacer like the IA, then the front of the speaker will buzz against the door card without the extended pins.

I learn more and more that the '04 truly is the bastard of the family. Harder to find wheels, suspension, speakers, etc...
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Old 02-10-2014, 08:40 PM   #7
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I left the crossovers and bridged my amp to the components. Then ran a 2nd 4 channel amp bridged to some components in the back as well. Makes for a damn good sound for the money. I was able to fit the Type X's in my 04 just as easily. It was just a test fit though for a customer... that's the only reason they aren't still in there.
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:13 PM   #8
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I left the crossovers and bridged my amp to the components. Then ran a 2nd 4 channel amp bridged to some components in the back as well. Makes for a damn good sound for the money. I was able to fit the Type X's in my 04 just as easily. It was just a test fit though for a customer... that's the only reason they aren't still in there.
When you test fit them, did you put the door card back on and play them? No buzzing of the speaker against the door?

If so that's good to know - means I can fit a 64mm mounting depth. Still doesn't fit the Focal KR, but it's close.

Do you recall how thick your spacers were?

Thanks again.
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:15 PM   #9
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I don't remember exactly. The door card fit on no problem.
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