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Old 03-27-2001, 10:10 AM   #1
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Post Old Teins DON'T FIT!

Ok, now you all have been warned. The Tein coilovers from the old Impreza DO NOT fit the new model. I just got off the phone with Firestone and they said the car will NEVER align properly with the coilovers. Luckily, JCSports is being very supportive and said they could yank out coilovers and put my OEM struts back on. DAMMIT! Looks like I'll have to wait for a new suspension.

I'll keep you guys updated.

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Old 03-27-2001, 10:42 AM   #2
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Any chance you'd sell them?

Sorry to hear about your troubles...
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Old 03-27-2001, 11:18 AM   #3
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ack!! That sucks... well, if you need to unload them for 1/5th the cost, I'm your man... hehehe...
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Old 03-27-2001, 11:22 AM   #4
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What part of the alignment doesn't work? Are you just getting too much negative camber? They are supposed to work. Does Firestone even have the right specs for the WRX or are they trying to align it to factory RS settings? Firestones around here are very incompetant. I would take it to a place that only does alignment and is good at it and see what they say.
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Old 03-27-2001, 11:40 AM   #5
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Spectre23, DMS has already published that suspensions from the old body will transfer over to the new body correctly. I wonder what part of the alignment isn't working though
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Old 03-27-2001, 11:45 AM   #6
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I would quite literally drive to Denver to get these, i'm so crazily desperate!

They really should work...gtguy had troubles with some clowns at a Firstone place with his DMS Gold, but found a shop that knew what they were doing and got them on right.
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Old 03-27-2001, 06:48 PM   #7
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Looks like the current best offer is 1/5th.
I'll double the bid and take it up to 2/5ths
Although, let us know what you're asking, I'm very interested, as are some others.
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Old 03-28-2001, 07:00 AM   #8
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Vultures, the lot of ya...

Anyway, I have come to the conclusion that Firestone is incompetent. I am having the service department at the dealer look at it and if that doesn't work, I'll see if I can find some adjustable pillow ball mounts. I'm not giving up on this yet. In fact, I'm going to ride this one to the bloody end. If I have to buy a beater Impreza to put those damn coilovers on, so be it. They're going to bury me with those damn things.
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Old 03-28-2001, 07:10 AM   #9
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Like everyone said, best bet is to take it somewhere else. Firestone doesn't know what they're doing at all. Firestone is right up there with Jiffy Lube. You don't want to mess with those guys!

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Old 03-28-2001, 08:16 AM   #10
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I know gtguy had a lot of problems with getting the dolts at one of those places to get his DMS sorted out, so he talked to DMS and they told him to find a more specialized shop.

He did, and they got it right.
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Old 03-28-2001, 10:23 PM   #11
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Paul, I told you two months ago they wouldn't fit and to sell em to me, before you ever pulled them off your car

Interestingly enough, I just spent today at Firebird Raceway in Phoneix thrashing the WRX, and it is more competant on stock suspension than I ever expected! Those BBS wheels with RE011's are incredible!

More on that story tomorrow - I am beat.

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Old 03-29-2001, 06:19 AM   #12
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I am exploring a couple of options. My main problem is that I have too much camber in the rear (both sides). I was hypothesizing that it is the result of the mount point for the coilover being slightly offset (towards the inside of the car) from the stock mount points. I am using the Tein pillow balls, Legacy application.

There are three options:

1. Find a way to use the stock mounts. This would keep the geometry pretty much the same.

2. Use the adjustable Tein pillow balls. This would allow me to put the mount point back to stock location. This may not be a viable option because I'm not too sure they even make these for my car.

3. Get a hold of some camber bolts. Brett at Flatirons suggested this. That way, we can adjust the camber without causing excessive toe-out.

If anyone has any intelligent suggestions (not 'sell them to me for a fraction of the price'), please let me know. I'd like to hear opinions. Cheers.

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Old 03-29-2001, 07:29 AM   #13
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out of curiosity, does the shop you've taken it to have the correct specs for the WRX? Possible that Subaru has changed the specs on the 2002 model. If the shop doesn't have them I'm sure Bret can get them for you. Just wondering because all the pics of lowered MY02 WRX's I've seen on this board show a lot of rear negative camber.
Also, I don't know if this is possible but DMS' suspension uses washers to adjust camber. Maybe you could get a hold of them and see if you can use the same washers on the Teins
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Old 03-29-2001, 07:36 AM   #14
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Where are the washers used on the DMS setup? At the mount point on the body? I have washers and spacers for the Teins. We may want to try those, too.
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Old 03-29-2001, 08:12 AM   #15
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honestly I don't know. I thought they used them on the big bolts at the bottom, but I don't know for sure. The USA rep for DMS is on the board (DMS-USA is his username, real name is Dave), you may try asking him.
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