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Old 10-17-2002, 09:25 AM   #1
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Default Need your opinion on ways to improve handling - advice please.

Recently replaced stock OEM springs with Eibach Prokit springs. I am looking to improve the handling even further and need you autoXers' opinions on ways to improve. I am looking to purchase following items in the near future.

Which one of two items below do you guys recommend?
1. MRT front strut $110 from subaruwrxparts.com (just placed an order)
2. 22mm Whiteline rear swaybar from ebay $75 from eBay.com

Any suggestion on other improvements that can be made? I am not a autoXer so other expensive suspension stuff such as coilover, control arm, etc are not really needed.

Other question is on how to install Rear Swaybar. Heard it will improve the handling characteristic in a way that AWD will drive more like RWD in a corner (oversteer). Anyone wants to elaborate on this one as well as installation? Is it as hard as springs to install? Took me a while to install springs.

Thank you in advance!
Tim
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Old 10-17-2002, 11:33 AM   #2
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I would also add solid enlinks to your setup. MRT, Kartboy and a few other make them. If it's not too late, get the adjustable sway bar. It will give you a little more flexibility in terms of dialing in/out under/over steer.

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Old 10-17-2002, 12:26 PM   #3
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Default Re: Need your opinion on ways to improve handling - advice please.

I wouldn't bother with the front strut brace.
its unlikely youll be flexing the strut towers much on street tires.

The best thing you can do for your handling, as far as getting around corners faster, is good tires.

a rear swaybar is nice, I reccomend an adjustable one so you can tune the oversteer/understeer properties of your car to your liking.

Getting an alignment done is also a good idea. If you tend to take corners agressively, try to get -1.5 degrees negative camber up front, 0 toe all around.

what do you want of the car?
be able to get around smooth corners fast? bumpy corners fast?

do you want the car to react quick, or just FEEL like there isnt any body roll?




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Recently replaced stock OEM springs with Eibach Prokit springs. I am looking to improve the handling even further and need you autoXers' opinions on ways to improve. I am looking to purchase following items in the near future.

Which one of two items below do you guys recommend?
1. MRT front strut $110 from subaruwrxparts.com (just placed an order)
2. 22mm Whiteline rear swaybar from ebay $75 from eBay.com

Any suggestion on other improvements that can be made? I am not a autoXer so other expensive suspension stuff such as coilover, control arm, etc are not really needed.

Other question is on how to install Rear Swaybar. Heard it will improve the handling characteristic in a way that AWD will drive more like RWD in a corner (oversteer). Anyone wants to elaborate on this one as well as installation? Is it as hard as springs to install? Took me a while to install springs.

Thank you in advance!
Tim
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Old 10-17-2002, 01:02 PM   #4
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Default echoing others

easy to install and is a great mod are the adjustable sway bars and endlinks.......either the Kartboy or the MRT ones ..........

never heard anyone have anything but positive praise for these upgrades/mods.
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Old 10-17-2002, 01:54 PM   #5
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Default good start BUT

TIRES!!!
Dont waste your money on a front strut bar. without R compound tires and racing suspension, you wont be getting flex from them.
TIRES!!
You already have springs, great start, as is the rear sway bar. I would recomend an adjustable one over the 22mm, BUT since most ppl seem to run their bars at 22mm(thats where I run mine)
I would say that you will be fine with it stuck at 22mm.
I would stay away from a front sway bar, as this will add more understeer to the car(which the rear bar will be taking away to begin with, so you would be right back at square one)
BUT it all depends on what you want, if you dont mind the understeer now, and just want less body roll, do front and rear sway bars. If you want the car to have little roll AND actually turn where you want it to, just do the rear.
TIRES!!!!!!!!
To sum it up this is what I sugest
Keep your Eibachs(was never a question)
Keep the 22mm rear sway bar
Ditch the strut brace(does nothing, adds weight, but looks BLING)
TIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heres what you should add
Rear swaybar end links(the factory ones are plastic, think about it)
TIRES!!!!!! this is the most important part of your suspension. All season tires will not cut it if superior handling is your goal. Go to dedicated summer only /winter only tires.
I would suggest looking at Falken Azeni sports, or Bf-goodrich KDW's(or better yet KD's)
After you get the endlinks(40-100 bucks)
and tires(375-700 depending on what you get)
I would look at moving the battery to the passenger side of the trunk(not very $$$, but help balance the car out)
And some real shocks(koni adjustables are nice, you can set em soft for comfort or hard for handling)
Did I mention TIRES??
Right now, go order the end links for that rear bar, its cheap, and you need em. Then look into something like.. I dunno maybe TIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-17-2002, 05:17 PM   #6
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Since no one has suggested it yet I recommend getting new tires if you're still using the stock re92s.
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Old 10-17-2002, 09:53 PM   #7
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Old 10-17-2002, 10:25 PM   #8
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Id add that equally or even more important than tires is a high quality alignment specific to your driving style. Even the re-92 can perform very well with the right alignment (but still get them replaced)
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