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Old 03-10-2014, 01:31 AM   #1
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I have a rotated 30r setup on my STi and I currently have a stock clutch in my car. I know the stock one is not going to hold the power that this turbo will be making (400+/400+)

I would like some opinions on which clutch I should use. My car is my DD so I am looking to stay away from a 6-puck.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:32 AM   #2
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Call IAG. Talk to Rick or Drew, they will lead you in the right direction. Or PM them here, they are a vendor.
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:39 AM   #3
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You don't want opinions, you want the right clutch and that right clutch may be a 6 puck. That's the price you pay when you build a car and you have to use the right tool for the right job as you do NOT pick a clutch based on personal opinion, you choose it based on torque holding...that's it...no and then.

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That said, get your ass to IAG since they are 6 inches from you.
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Old 03-10-2014, 06:55 AM   #4
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I agree with Ron.... 6-puck is probably the best clutch for your application and mods. Our best experiences have been with ACT, though there are a number of other quality options out there.

From a real world perspective, we actually have a surprising number of customers that have experienced longevity on the HDSS/XTSS heavy duty street clutches at around 400 WHP/TQ as well (typically upgraded the clutch before the torque was increased, but end up lasting much longer than expected), but I think that a 6-puck is likely a safer and better choice for you.

A customer of our shop and active board member Chow (User1029) recently switched from an ACT XTSS to an ACT XTG6 after running the heavy duty street clutch for quite some time, and seemed to be pretty pleased with the overall drivability considering the additional torque potential on the puck clutch. I'm sure he would be happy to offer feedback on both, and is making 400+ WHP/WTQ on a daily driver.

Good luck and hope that helps!

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Old 03-11-2014, 03:36 AM   #5
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I agree with Ron.... 6-puck is probably the best clutch for your application and mods. Our best experiences have been with ACT, though there are a number of other quality options out there.

From a real world perspective, we actually have a surprising number of customers that have experienced longevity on the HDSS/XTSS heavy duty street clutches at around 400 WHP/TQ as well (typically upgraded the clutch before the torque was increased, but end up lasting much longer than expected), but I think that a 6-puck is likely a safer and better choice for you.

A customer of our shop and active board member Chow (User1029) recently switched from an ACT XTSS to an ACT XTG6 after running the heavy duty street clutch for quite some time, and seemed to be pretty pleased with the overall drivability considering the additional torque potential on the puck clutch. I'm sure he would be happy to offer feedback on both, and is making 400+ WHP/WTQ on a daily driver.

Good luck and hope that helps!

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The only reason I am looking to stay away from a 6-puck is because of my leg/knee. (I've been in the shop multiple times on my blue crutches lol) So that's why I am trying to figure out which clutch would be the next best after that, many people said the XTSS. The only reason I was skeptical about it was because I purchased my car with that clutch in it and it had an FP Green on and it started to slip. Wasn't sure if it was because of the previous owner or the actual clutch itself.
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A sprung 6-puck isn't bad on the leg at all. I had one in my integra it was a breeze to drive. And I've ripped both ACL's and have about 80% mobility. Now I have a twin disk and that feels close. Maybe a little easier to push.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:15 AM   #7
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The only reason I am looking to stay away from a 6-puck is because of my leg/knee. (I've been in the shop multiple times on my blue crutches lol) So that's why I am trying to figure out which clutch would be the next best after that, many people said the XTSS. The only reason I was skeptical about it was because I purchased my car with that clutch in it and it had an FP Green on and it started to slip. Wasn't sure if it was because of the previous owner or the actual clutch itself.
Tough call man.... If you're looking for something easier on your leg/knee, the HDSS/XTSS is going to be a bit more friendly (I wouldn't say they are a WORLD apart from the 6-puck, which is surprisingly decent for it's torque rating and specs)... We have a number of clients here that run the HDSS/XTSS clutches on 380-420ish WHP cars that really seem to hold up well.

I think the other side of this decision is how you will be driving the car. The full face clutches aren't going to hold up as well to abusive driving (launching, drag style driving, etc.), whereas the 6-pucks tend to shine in those situations. If you are looking for the most reasonable clutch for your leg that is capable of handling your torque, and are more the "daily driver/occasional aggressive driving" type, than the street clutch would likely be my recommendation for you.

With all the being said, I would guess that more than half of the clutches we install here are one of the two/three mentioned above... I'm sure we have enough friendly enthusiast customers up here that I could likely try and arrange a way for you to swing up one day and feel a 6-puck for yourself, and see if the pedal is reasonable enough!

Have a good day.

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Best bet is Clutchmasters FX300 of FX350

If you want the FX200 is rated at 70% more grab that stock, which would be around 400 but most people in your power range will go for the 3 series.
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Best bet is Clutchmasters FX300 of FX350

If you want the FX200 is rated at 70% more grab that stock, which would be around 400 but most people in your power range will go for the 3 series.
Just looked up their clutches. Am I the only one that gets annoyed when a clutch doesn't list its torque rating??
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Old 03-12-2014, 01:45 PM   #10
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Just looked up their clutches. Am I the only one that gets annoyed when a clutch doesn't list its torque rating??
It's rather annoying, they also list general "descriptions" aside from the +X% over stock grip.
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