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Old 03-10-2014, 09:13 AM   #1
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Default Wrx to Sti. Is it really worth it?

I currently have an 07' WRX Limited w/ header, uppipe, vf48, dp, exhaust. Protune w/ 300whp. My question is, is it really worth selling my car just to upgrade to an Sti? Or is it more of a lateral?
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:17 AM   #2
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Depends, if i was to buy new. STI is worth it. The rims and tires are couple grands alone...then the brakes the suspensions, trans....with warranty...totally worthy.

If i had a modded car like you, then it is not worth it. You mod it the way you like, then why go to an STI ? Doesnt make senses, unless your WRX now is not reliable
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:19 AM   #3
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Worth it is a bad question.

And are you talking a NEW/ER STI or same year? Do you need a 6 speed? Do you need DCCD and HID's?

Answer those questions to yourself, then decide if you can do it financially.
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:46 AM   #4
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I forgot to include that I have full suspension on my WRX currently. HID's I could care less. What is DCCD? And what are the benefits of the 6 speed over the 5 speed? I don't really need to do 100+...
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:52 AM   #5
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What is DCCD?...if you don't know, you can't afford it!

Driver Controlled Center Differential...use the search button for the rest, as many people have explained in the past what this is, and the pro's and con's...
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:05 AM   #6
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What is DCCD?...if you don't know, you can't afford it!
Thaaaaaaaaaaaat's pretty dumb. Just because he's never read about something his car doesn't have, doesn't mean he can't afford it.

Have a little respect for people who know less than you.
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Old 03-10-2014, 10:42 AM   #7
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Thaaaaaaaaaaaat's pretty dumb. Just because he's never read about something his car doesn't have, doesn't mean he can't afford it.

Have a little respect for people who know less than you.

^my attempt of quoting a movie in the wrong area, I guess. Anyway I mean, he is asking about dccd and the 6speed, which has been an upgrade since day 1 from the WRX to STI. It seems like with a statement as such from the OP, he cares more about having the three letters "STI" on his car, then he does understanding the components that come with it...

...At the end of the day, search. Same as I was told when I started on here. Two flame retardant suits later, and I understand what everyone meant.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:01 AM   #8
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I could care less what letters are on the car, thus my post. I just want to justify the cost and time; if selling my car and getting an Sti is worth it.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:12 AM   #9
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If you don't care about DCCD, or the letters, why even think about it?

What does the STI have, that you want? That is the question to ask yourself.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:22 AM   #10
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Well let me tell you this. I put roughly 300 miles/week on the car, most of which are on curvy roads. I'm looking for something that corners well, and does well in snow (not necessarily at the same time). Now DCCD may be something that interests me, but what I guess mostly what I'm looking for is someone that has gone from a WRX 06'+ to the Sti that can verify that the switch was indeed worth it.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:35 AM   #11
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What year STI?

What do you mean by full suspension?

There is so much you can do to the stock handling of the WRX that will not break the bank (much cheaper than buying a new car):
- Camber bolts and an alignment (car is set to understeer stock)
- Coliovers or springs
- Sway bars

If you have done those things and still want more, you may want to consider either the 2015 STI, or a different car like an Evo.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:33 PM   #12
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What is DCCD?...if you don't know, you can't afford it!

Driver Controlled Center Differential...use the search button for the rest, as many people have explained in the past what this is, and the pro's and con's...

That makes absolutely no sense.

DCCD (from what I understand) allows you to control the power going to the front and rear wheels manually. I think WRX's are set to 35F/65R in terms of power percentage.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:41 PM   #13
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I had an 03' wrx 'stage 2' with coilovers, nothing too fancy. I bought an STi about a year and a half ago. Was it worth it, IN MY OPINION, yeah its worth it. Except financially, cause I am selling my STi now.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:49 PM   #14
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Well let me tell you this. I put roughly 300 miles/week on the car, most of which are on curvy roads. I'm looking for something that corners well, and does well in snow (not necessarily at the same time). Now DCCD may be something that interests me, but what I guess mostly what I'm looking for is someone that has gone from a WRX 06'+ to the Sti that can verify that the switch was indeed worth it.
There is no need for you to get an STI just because of curvy roads. Do some suspension items on your WRX and you'll be out doing a stock STI. The aftermarket is huge for these cars, just spend some money to make your car better instead of changing cars.

DCCD is something most people don't even touch.

And are you looking at an 08+ STI or 04-07 STI?

I vote you drop some cash on suspension parts and enjoy the car. The STI's main thing that your WRX doesn't have is simply the transmission after you make your car handle.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:00 PM   #15
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What about the myth of the transmission in the WRX being a "glass box" per say. Is that something I should worry about?
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:06 PM   #16
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You nailed the myth. If you suck at driving, your transmission will fail.

I had well over 300 whp and never had a problem on my 06.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:09 PM   #17
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I wish I had an sti so I could launch without worry.. I never launch my bug, ever.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:24 PM   #18
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It sounds like a big waste of money for you. You will get $10k for your WRX and be buying a $40k STI after it's all said and done. If you were going from an Impreza to a STI that's one thing.

If you just wanted a fun DD a WRX is perfect. If you want it to handle better just spend a few hundred on suspension mods. Swaybars and endlinks seem to be the most common thing done.

DCCD is nice to have. Coming from someone who likes to enjoy their 70 mile commute, I can't see myself using it much. 6 speed could be nice too but I prefer a 5 speed for DD. My last car was a 6 speed and it wasn't a pain but I definitely enjoy not having to shift through an extra gear.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:38 PM   #20
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I think it depends on the model year STI you are comparing to. Here are my thoughts...

My previous vehicle:

2007 WRX Limited
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- Walbro 255 fuel pump
- Grimmspeed 3 port EBCS
- 3" COBB TBE
- STI TMIC
- Protuned to 308whp/315ft-lb TQ
- Prodrive lowering springs

I absolutely loved the WRX but it was getting close to 100,000 miles and I wanted to get into something different. I knew I always wanted an STI so I started looking around. In January of this year I sold the WRX and picked up a stock 2011 STI with 9,000 miles on it.

After being in the STI for almost 2.5 months I can tell you that I'd do it again in a heart beat. The mushy 5 speed is no comparison to the 6 speed, even with upgraded shifter/bushings in the 5 speed. It's enhanced the entire driving experience for me. Drive one and you'll see what I mean.

Yes, you should be worried about the longevity of the 5 speed. Anything over 300 ft-lb TQ is pushing it. That was the #1 thing I disliked about the WRX. Every single time I got on the throttle I was just waiting for the damn thing to break. Too many people on here and in my regional club have had to replace their 5 speed at the same or less power levels.

The STI definitely handles better in the corners but a new set of sway bars on the WRX would make it comparable or even better. So if cornering on curvy roads is your only concern it is not worth getting the STI. However, when it comes to stopping power, the Brembos are a huge upgrade over the WRX brakes. I thought the 4 pots on my WRX were great but they don't hold a candle to the Brembos. You'll notice that right away as well.

Overall, it sounds like you are trying to justify the STI to yourself. The reality is that it is not a lateral move, even with your current mods/power the STI is still a significant upgrade. This is especially true if you are looking at 2008+ STI's as the interior quality is significantly improved over the 2007 interior. You just have to decide if it's worth the added cost to you. For me it was.

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It sounds like a big waste of money for you. You will get $10k for your WRX and be buying a $40k STI after it's all said and done. If you were going from an Impreza to a STI that's one thing.
Uh, what?

KBB for a sub 110k mile 2007 WRX limited is between $14.5k and $17k. I was able to sell my WRX in January for $16.5k and there were 2 other buyers ready to pull the trigger for $16k. You can sit here all day long and tell me that KBB doesn't mean anything. But contrary to what many on here believe most car buyers still rely on it and it played well in my favor.

Also, $40k for an STI? A new one is sub $35k and a low mileage used one in excellent condition can be had for around $24K - $30k. Ask me how I know...

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Old 03-10-2014, 01:43 PM   #21
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Go drive a 2015 wrx and an sti when available and see if it's worth it to you. I have a 2012 now and love it but I had an 05 and 06 sti and I enjoyed those very much. There are still some stock 04-07's around give them a try there a great car period.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:26 PM   #22
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I think it depends on the model year STI you are comparing to. Here are my thoughts...

My previous vehicle:

2007 WRX Limited
- VF48
- SPT Intake
- Perrin turbo inlet
- Walbro 255 fuel pump
- Grimmspeed 3 port EBCS
- 3" COBB TBE
- STI TMIC
- Protuned to 308whp/315ft-lb TQ
- Prodrive lowering springs

I absolutely loved the WRX but it was getting close to 100,000 miles and I wanted to get into something different. I knew I always wanted an STI so I started looking around. In January of this year I sold the WRX and picked up a stock 2011 STI with 9,000 miles on it.

After being in the STI for almost 2.5 months I can tell you that I'd do it again in a heart beat. The mushy 5 speed is no comparison to the 6 speed, even with upgraded shifter/bushings in the 5 speed. It's enhanced the entire driving experience for me. Drive one and you'll see what I mean.

Yes, you should be worried about the longevity of the 5 speed. Anything over 300 ft-lb TQ is pushing it. That was the #1 thing I disliked about the WRX. Every single time I got on the throttle I was just waiting for the damn thing to break. Too many people on here and in my regional club have had to replace their 5 speed at the same or less power levels.

The STI definitely handles better in the corners but a new set of sway bars on the WRX would make it comparable or even better. So if cornering on curvy roads is your only concern it is not worth getting the STI. However, when it comes to stopping power, the Brembos are a huge upgrade over the WRX brakes. I thought the 4 pots on my WRX were great but they don't hold a candle to the Brembos. You'll notice that right away as well.

Overall, it sounds like you are trying to justify the STI to yourself. The reality is that it is not a lateral move, even with your current mods/power the STI is still a significant upgrade. This is especially true if you are looking at 2008+ STI's as the interior quality is significantly improved over the 2007 interior. You just have to decide if it's worth the added cost to you. For me it was.



Uh, what?

KBB for a sub 110k mile 2007 WRX limited is between $14.5k and $17k. I was able to sell my WRX in January for $16.5k and there were 2 other buyers ready to pull the trigger for $16k. You can sit here all day long and tell me that KBB doesn't mean anything. But contrary to what many on here believe most car buyers still rely on it and it played well in my favor.

Also, $40k for an STI? A new one is sub $35k and a low mileage used one in excellent condition can be had for around $24K - $30k. Ask me how I know...
I don't doubt you that KBB says his car should be worth $15k. However, he did some mods to it. I'm not talking about tint or a catback but some serious mods. It's ALWAYS better to plan for the worst. He'll definitely be able to get $10k for it. If he plans with that and turns out he gets $5k, good for him. If he plans for $15k and gets $10k, his plan will go to ****. Granted yours was similarly modded and sold for a KBB range price, that doesn't mean his will. $10k is a super safe estimate so anything more will be bonus.

Yes, a new STI is about $35k. Usually the government likes if you pay taxes. That will put him close enough to $40k that we'd just be splitting hairs calling it anything else.

Yes, he can get a low mileage STI for closer to $30k. However, watch these forums and look at how many "Help! New WRX/STI doesn't start!!!!". Read it and cringe as they've had a full exhaust and intake installed for a few thousand miles (without a tune of course). The STI is a great car. Most people who buy one know what they want. So when I see one with low miles you can see why I naturally assume the worse.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:41 PM   #23
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I'll be VERY surprised if it only goes for $10k. But yes, he should plan for the worst, I suppose. And I'd hope that he is smart enough to have a compression/ leak down test performed on a used STI before he buys it. But I agree that based on most of the threads seen on here, that's wishful thinking.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:48 PM   #24
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"worth" is not something someone else can tell you. It is a personal decision that no one can make for you.

It all depends on how you value your money against what you want/have.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:49 PM   #25
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Do you track your current car?

That's what my thought process has always been. I've had both and never utilized all the STi goodies, they were just a bling factor.
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