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Old 03-10-2014, 01:51 PM   #26
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Scooter--Thanks for the info. My biggest concern is the transmission thus far. But I don't drive like a jack wagon, so I should be fine.
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:52 PM   #27
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Do you track your current car?

That's what my thought process has always been. I've had both and never utilized all the STi goodies, they were just a bling factor.
Never... Just a daily driver.
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Old 03-10-2014, 02:07 PM   #28
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Scooter--Thanks for the info. My biggest concern is the transmission thus far. But I don't drive like a jack wagon, so I should be fine.
Yeah, as long as you aren't launching it all over the place and roll into the throttle after every shift it will definitely help prolong it's life.
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:31 PM   #29
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It doesn't matter if you Track or you don't Track your car. Like I said. I had another thread on whether to Track it or not, it will not be guaranteed, and if it engine sht on you, you are on your own.

STI is a car for peace of mind, if you don't want to Mods your own, but you want a Cool, Already Modded vehicle, and still have Warranty, you go for STI.

Considering

Upgraded suspensions
Upgraded Tires & Rims
Upgraded Tune
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Upgraded Brakes (Rotors, Pads, Calipers, lines)
Upgraded Rear Spoiler (Body matched Painting)

Those alone, if you After market, and mod your own, without labor, they will cost you more than the STI differences from the WRX price.

But modding your own, you will have developed your own car and it reflects it. IMHO, If you track your car, buy an WRX and mod it. Buy an STI if you don't track, want it cool, and warranty in doing so
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:53 PM   #30
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It doesn't matter if you Track or you don't Track your car. Like I said. I had another thread on whether to Track it or not, it will not be guaranteed, and if it engine sht on you, you are on your own.

STI is a car for peace of mind, if you don't want to Mods your own, but you want a Cool, Already Modded vehicle, and still have Warranty, you go for STI.

Considering

Upgraded suspensions
Upgraded Tires & Rims
Upgraded Tune
Upgraded Transmission
Upgraded Brakes (Rotors, Pads, Calipers, lines)
Upgraded Rear Spoiler (Body matched Painting)

Those alone, if you After market, and mod your own, without labor, they will cost you more than the STI differences from the WRX price.

But modding your own, you will have developed your own car and it reflects it. IMHO, If you track your car, buy an WRX and mod it. Buy an STI if you don't track, want it cool, and warranty in doing so
Suspension is cheap to upgrade.
Tires and WHEELS are subjective as to being "better."
Tune is damn near the same, the only difference is STI is made for a larger turbo. (Which should have been your argument)
Transmission, I'll give you that to a point. 5 speed failures are far less common then made out to be. And when you have idiots saying they fail when you hit Stage 2, then it keeps spreading.
Brakes. The lines are the same. The rotors aren't fancy, and the pads really aren't either. They do have Brembos which are more resistant to fade, something you'll only ever see on a track. And 06/07 have the best WRX brakes possible. So really not a true "upgrade."
Spoiler is more subjective then looks over anything. And all WRX spoilers have come the same color as the body.

AKA everything you just listed off was worthless.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:53 AM   #31
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I was in this same boat. I just picked up a new 2014 WR Blue WRX hatch.
It's my DD and is to a point also a play toy. I didn't really want the STI. The DCCD to me is just more stuff in the end that can go wrong. ( I work on cars for a living and see it all the time, Just cause you have "more stuff" doesn't mean it's always better)

Brakes are brakes. I'll upgrades the pads. Worked well on my Racebikes
tires are tires. I'll upgrade them when they wear.
Already doing Sway bars.

I like to mod things. I didn't feel like spending almost 10k more for a car with stiff I can live without or really don't need. I did like the darker color headliner in the STI though

Main reasons I went with a WRX it just fit me better I guess. Plus No one had a Hatch in the color I wanted that was a STI

and about the used price. We got a used 2013 black WRX hatch traded in at work. They gave the guy 24k for it. It will sell without a problem for 26k or more. Hell they wanted to sell it to me for 27.5K OTD and I worked there. Hell no

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Old 03-11-2014, 08:30 AM   #32
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I'm a sucker for the wagons also. I would only ever buy an Sti if it were a wagon. Function>Form
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:34 AM   #33
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It doesn't matter if you Track or you don't Track your car.

I mean to utilize the extra $10k worth of goodies, like Brembo brakes and differentials. Not whether or not it is less prone to breaking. The WRX has been better to daily for me, as I did not utilize the more track oriented features of the STi.
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:36 AM   #34
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I mean to utilize the extra $10k worth of goodies, like Brembo brakes and differentials. Not whether or not it is less prone to breaking. The WRX has been better to daily for me, as I did not utilize the more track oriented features of the STi.
Beside the Cool factors, and the good look. There is no utilizing them on the street use. The WRX brakes are better than Camry and Accord.

So, if you look into having a good DD without high maintenance and so, it is not worth upgrade to the STI
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Old 03-11-2014, 11:52 AM   #35
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If you don't plan to track the car ever and it's a DD, Either keep the WRX or buy a new one. I had an STi 06' and I DD'd it and if I could go back I would have gotten a newer WRX. Parts cost more on the STi and depending on the part are harder to get. Insurance is gonna be more, gas is gonna be more because you'll use more.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:02 PM   #36
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What parts cost more? 06+ WRX are 85% the same as STI's.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:05 PM   #37
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What parts cost more? 06+ WRX are 85% the same as STI's.
Rims and Tires cost more on STI than WRX per Manufacturer Manual Services
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:06 PM   #38
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Well let me tell you this. I put roughly 300 miles/week on the car, most of which are on curvy roads. I'm looking for something that corners well, and does well in snow (not necessarily at the same time). Now DCCD may be something that interests me, but what I guess mostly what I'm looking for is someone that has gone from a WRX 06'+ to the Sti that can verify that the switch was indeed worth it.


My immediate question is whether you really want to sink a bunch of money into something you're putting 300 miles on per week?

I have no idea how rich you are or anything like that, but if I was driving that much I wouldn't be too keen on the idea of sinking that kind of cash into something I put that kind of mileage on. The mpg of an sti will also come into play financially when you're driving that much. Is having two cars an option? I mean say you have your wrx and 30 grand hypothetically. I would personally spend 15 grand on an accord or altima for the commute, and keep the wrx as your fun car. Sink some of the remaining cash into it. There is a lot you can do for that kind of money, and you won't have to worry quite as much seeing as the wrx won't be your daily driver. Do they sell E85 locally? Either way, you have a lot of room to upgrade without the constant worrying about reliability, and your daily commutes will be more comfortable along with better MPG.
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:44 PM   #39
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Rims and Tires cost more on STI than WRX per Manufacturer Manual Services
Uh yeah, factory replacement anything is going to cost more, especially in the wheel department.

Most folks stick with the stock wheels and if something happens, pay for it out of pocket or its horrible enough, put in an insurance claim.

Aftermarket and used wheels are much cheaper to replace. Tires are dependent on where you buy from.
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Old 03-11-2014, 02:55 PM   #40
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My immediate question is whether you really want to sink a bunch of money into something you're putting 300 miles on per week?

I have no idea how rich you are or anything like that, but if I was driving that much I wouldn't be too keen on the idea of sinking that kind of cash into something I put that kind of mileage on. The mpg of an sti will also come into play financially when you're driving that much. Is having two cars an option? I mean say you have your wrx and 30 grand hypothetically. I would personally spend 15 grand on an accord or altima for the commute, and keep the wrx as your fun car. Sink some of the remaining cash into it. There is a lot you can do for that kind of money, and you won't have to worry quite as much seeing as the wrx won't be your daily driver. Do they sell E85 locally? Either way, you have a lot of room to upgrade without the constant worrying about reliability, and your daily commutes will be more comfortable along with better MPG.

Honestly, if somebody is concerned about the STI Efficiency, that some body should have bought a Prius (King of MPG for DD.)
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:16 PM   #41
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Honestly, if somebody is concerned about the STI Efficiency, that some body should have bought a Prius (King of MPG for DD.)
Your posts are getting more and more silly/out of place. Have you been drinking today?
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Old 03-11-2014, 06:19 PM   #42
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Hey man, I apologize for the long read, but I had a similar scenario.

I came from a 2007 WRX TR. Modded w/ Invidia DP, SPT intake, HKS exhaust, Eibach springs, Eibach sways, PW intercooler, Cobb Stage 2, and a bunch of other goodies.

Back in August, I found myself fixing stuff just to find another part broken and called it a loss. I was financially set, wanted a new ride and decided to do so. Although I slightly overextended myself(in the terms of the Navy and their Financial Management System) by paying $85 more a month for a brand new STI, it was/is under warranty. That included insurance. I have since upgraded my STI w/ intake, downpipe, accessport then open source, exhaust, short shifter, mud flaps, TWM shift knob, hella horns, all the usual stuff. Was it cheap? No. But my thought process was that my WRX was dying quickly, I could afford my dream car, I'm single and I don't have kids to worry about yet. So I did it, and have a safe warranted 4 door that I can carry kids around when the day comes.

Ultimately it is your call. Your old car seems like it's running pretty good, seems more like a "upgrade to upgrade/ F- it why not" type of deal. If you have the finances to do it.

The upgrades out of the box for the STI worth noting, in paranthesis are the WRX mods I had:
-6 speed transmission(stock 5 speed was starting to slip)
-DCCD-you can control the amount of power going to front/rear(no WRX item like this)
-S Drive button-Cobb's stg2 selections are intelligent-8psi, sport-16psi, sport#-19psi
-brakes(way better than cryo rotors and hawk pads)
-suspension(way better than my Eibach combos above)
-wheels/tires
-WARRANTY(my biggest item)
-Seat warmers.

Be prepared to take a major loss for your WRX though. I bought mine for $17k w/ 44k miles. Immediately dumped $5k to replace the motor, and probably $4k in mods. Overall spent on WRX- $26,000 give or take. I got $8000 for it at the dealership because of 2 accidents it had while I let someone else drive while I was in Japan. I paid $34,000 for my 2013 STI (model year old ), and have put $2k mods into it.

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Brakes expensive to replace on sti as well
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I don't know how many times it's been shown/said on this forum that the STI only has better brakes on long track days, the suspension isn't a real upgrade and wheels and tires are a joke. Plus the fact that most of the time DCCD is left in auto, and half the people have no clue how to properly use it.
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:40 AM   #45
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My immediate question is whether you really want to sink a bunch of money into something you're putting 300 miles on per week?
I have an IS-F for a fun car. As far as the WRX goes, it's just something that gets me from the valley to mountains and back at a decent clip.
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I currently have an 07' WRX Limited w/ header, uppipe, vf48, dp, exhaust. Protune w/ 300whp. My question is, is it really worth selling my car just to upgrade to an Sti? Or is it more of a lateral?
Sounds like a pretty nice car. You should keep it.
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I don't know how many times it's been shown/said on this forum that the STI only has better brakes on long track days, the suspension isn't a real upgrade and wheels and tires are a joke. Plus the fact that most of the time DCCD is left in auto, and half the people have no clue how to properly use it.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I fall into this category. One day I'll take the time to learn why/when I'd use it. but for now it always remains in "Auto".
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This thread is relevant to my thoughts. I recently purchased a 2013 WRX Premium, I love the car. Although from time to time, I question if should have bought the 2013 STI instead. Just that fact that I ponder about an STI over my WRX, messes with my head. Still going to dump my wallet into the WRX mod wise. I'm sure 3 years from now I'll be looking into something else. (sigh)
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Old 03-13-2014, 01:18 AM   #49
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Suspension is cheap to upgrade.
Tires and WHEELS are subjective as to being "better."
Transmission, I'll give you that to a point. 5 speed failures are far less common then made out to be. And when you have idiots saying they fail when you hit Stage 2, then it keeps spreading.
Brakes. The lines are the same. The rotors aren't fancy, and the pads really aren't either. They do have Brembos which are more resistant to fade, something you'll only ever see on a track. And 06/07 have the best WRX brakes possible. So really not a true "upgrade."
Spoiler is more subjective then looks over anything. And all WRX spoilers have come the same color as the body.

AKA everything you just listed off was worthless.
Eh, not quite. The wheels are objectively better if you plan on tracking your car. The reason being that the 18x8.5" wheels have a larger tire selection than the 17x8 especially in slicks and track tires. For the OP that may or may not matter (he said he never tracked his wrx) but for others it does. This is actually one of the reasons I plan on trading my 11 wrx in for a 15sti--because I have been tracking my wrx and I want something new and more capable at the track. The wrx is absolutely fantastic but I'm hoping that the sti will be that little bit extra.
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Eh, not quite. The wheels are objectively better if you plan on tracking your car. The reason being that the 18x8.5" wheels have a larger tire selection than the 17x8 especially in slicks and track tires. For the OP that may or may not matter (he said he never tracked his wrx) but for others it does. This is actually one of the reasons I plan on trading my 11 wrx in for a 15sti--because I have been tracking my wrx and I want something new and more capable at the track. The wrx is absolutely fantastic but I'm hoping that the sti will be that little bit extra.
Then buy a good wheel and tire setup.
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