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Old 03-21-2014, 09:40 AM   #1
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Default Continental Extreme Contact DW for Autocross

Has anybody used them for autocross?

Are these noticeably better for Autocross than the all season tires, Conti DWS for example?
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Old 03-21-2014, 12:52 PM   #2
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I would assume so since one is an all season and the other a summer tire.
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:08 PM   #3
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If you are only going to use it for auto-x, there are better choices (except in the rain).

If its a daily driver/auto-x tire then its not a bad choice.

A world of difference between it and the DWS in the dry.
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Old 03-21-2014, 01:53 PM   #4
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If you are only going to use it for auto-x, there are better choices (except in the rain).

If its a daily driver/auto-x tire then its not a bad choice.

A world of difference between it and the DWS in the dry.
I will be using the tires on my car for daily driving as well, otherwise i'd be looking at Star Specs for example.

Last year I ran autocross with DWS's and it didn't turn out too well, so i'm just looking for something a bit better for my otherwise stock 2.5i ( i just have a RSB on it)
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Old 03-21-2014, 03:03 PM   #5
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the DW would be better than almost every all-season tire ( I say almost because it isn't better performing than the Pilot Sport AS3). When compared to other summer tires it is basically a middle of the pack performer.
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Old 03-21-2014, 04:15 PM   #6
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I will be using the tires on my car for daily driving as well, otherwise i'd be looking at Star Specs for example.

Last year I ran autocross with DWS's and it didn't turn out too well, so i'm just looking for something a bit better for my otherwise stock 2.5i ( i just have a RSB on it)
What Luke said.

Also like I said before, the DW is a very good daily driver/performance tire. It's not in the same league as the Dunlop Z2 (new version of the Star Spec), but it is a tire that will wear better, be more comfortable and be much better in the rain. It's no slouch, but its just not as track worthy as:
Dunlop Z2, or BF Goodrich Rival, or Bridgestone RE11A, etc. etc..

To be honest, if you can only have one set of wheels/tires, then the DW are not a bad choice at all. If you can swing another set of wheel/tires then you might want something more to compete on.

I've run the DW for a while and I do like them very much. They are not the sharpest, but they are also NOT SLOPPY either. Very good dry grip, FANTASTIC wet grip, comfortable (for a performance tire), quite enough too.

One more point, when I first got them I felt as though they would not balance right. After a week or so it just seemed to work out. Like they needed to "break in".
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:54 PM   #7
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the DW would be better than almost every all-season tire ( I say almost because it isn't better performing than the Pilot Sport AS3). When compared to other summer tires it is basically a middle of the pack performer.
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What Luke said.

Also like I said before, the DW is a very good daily driver/performance tire. It's not in the same league as the Dunlop Z2 (new version of the Star Spec), but it is a tire that will wear better, be more comfortable and be much better in the rain. It's no slouch, but its just not as track worthy as:
Dunlop Z2, or BF Goodrich Rival, or Bridgestone RE11A, etc. etc..

To be honest, if you can only have one set of wheels/tires, then the DW are not a bad choice at all. If you can swing another set of wheel/tires then you might want something more to compete on.

I've run the DW for a while and I do like them very much. They are not the sharpest, but they are also NOT SLOPPY either. Very good dry grip, FANTASTIC wet grip, comfortable (for a performance tire), quite enough too.

One more point, when I first got them I felt as though they would not balance right. After a week or so it just seemed to work out. Like they needed to "break in".
That's basically what I'm looking for. A compromise tire that's decent in autocross, but also very good on the road.
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Old 03-23-2014, 09:32 PM   #8
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i just got done ordering my continental dw 255/35/18 like 5 min ago. should have them by wed. Ill probably get them mounted on my 18x9.5 rpf1 by the end of the week. ill get back to you with how they perform on the street.
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:16 AM   #9
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I'll go get them from Tire Rack either this or next Saturday.
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Old 04-14-2014, 04:57 PM   #10
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I had these installed a couple weeks ago and did my first autocross in them. It took me the whole morning to get used to the increased grip. However, the increased grip now accentuates the ****ty stock suspension. I'm planning to install Koni Yellows this summer.

Has anybody driven these tires on snow? Stupid midwest weather?
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:39 PM   #11
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I wouldn't subyserb. You'll end up in the ditch.

The only thing I DON'T recommend these tires for is tracking in any way. I took my DW out for a spirited 20 minute track session a few weeks after I initially got them, and they become extremely greasy very quickly.

For Auto-X they should be fine as they won't get hot enough to cause the greasyness. for DD, they were truly one of my all-time favorite tires I've driven. They are simply fantastic in the rain (I hit a 2-3" deep puddle on a major highway doing 140 km/h (90mph) and I didn't waterplane the tires at all).
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:50 PM   #12
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Thankfully I got home from work before it started snowing. I can't go to gym now though because of it.
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Old 04-15-2014, 01:45 AM   #13
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I wouldn't subyserb. You'll end up in the ditch.

The only thing I DON'T recommend these tires for is tracking in any way. I took my DW out for a spirited 20 minute track session a few weeks after I initially got them, and they become extremely greasy very quickly.

For Auto-X they should be fine as they won't get hot enough to cause the greasyness. for DD, they were truly one of my all-time favorite tires I've driven. They are simply fantastic in the rain (I hit a 2-3" deep puddle on a major highway doing 140 km/h (90mph) and I didn't waterplane the tires at all).
This.

The comparison people give the DW is with the michelin pilot super sports since they are in the same category.

The pss is better dry grip and firmer sidewall....but its noisier and less superior in the rain.

I have the dw in 245/40/17 and I love I
them.

The dws is not a bad tire....but more inferior for dry traction and to be honest my dw does better in the rain than the dws due to the huge water channels.

It rocked in the snow but not like a blizzak.

Pushing the tire hard with less than adequate air pressure causes squealing. Put a little bit more air in tthere and they should quiet right up.


Running my dw @ 38f 37r

No more chirping during hard cornering.

They definately make my crappy oem sways and links stand out more.

Nothing ive had handled like my potenza 970as when I had -2.5 up front and -1.5 rear tho lol.

Im after comfort and treadwear over performance so this is a perfect tire for me.
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This. The comparison people give the DW is with the michelin pilot super sports since they are in the same category. The pss is better dry grip and firmer sidewall....but its noisier and less superior in the rain. I have the dw in 245/40/17 and I love I them. The dws is not a bad tire....but more inferior for dry traction and to be honest my dw does better in the rain than the dws due to the huge water channels. It rocked in the snow but not like a blizzak. Pushing the tire hard with less than adequate air pressure causes squealing. Put a little bit more air in tthere and they should quiet right up. Running my dw @ 38f 37r No more chirping during hard cornering. They definately make my crappy oem sways and links stand out more. Nothing ive had handled like my potenza 970as when I had -2.5 up front and -1.5 rear tho lol. Im after comfort and treadwear over performance so this is a perfect tire for me.
Yeah, i ran mine at 40psi front and back, all the time.
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What do you guys run at Autocross if you run that high on the street?
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Old 04-15-2014, 09:56 AM   #16
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I just leave it at 40.

I started off at 35/33, but then ran an auto-x, forgot to drop them, and realized they ran SO much better at the higher psi, so I left them there.

I was also in a 2.5i N/A, so there was no way I could push the tires close to their top rating, so I wasn't worried.
I'd probably run 38 all round in a wrx/sti .
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On my wagon, I liked 38 front 36 rear.

This worked well on twisty mountain/canyon roads.
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On my wagon, I liked 38 front 36 rear.

This worked well on twisty mountain/canyon roads.
I was gonna do the 2psi split but oem is 1psi so I kept it there lol. Used to run 35 all the way around on my bridgestones....
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I love my Conti DW's. As previously mentioned they're absolutely amazing in the rain. I use them for auto-x as well and am very happy with the performance of them. For the cost vs comfort/dry/wet performance/treadwear they're an excellent option for a dd tire with the occasional auto x thrown in. I run mine at 38 front, 36 rear all the time - 2002 n/a wagon.
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I love my Conti DW's. As previously mentioned they're absolutely amazing in the rain. I use them for auto-x as well and am very happy with the performance of them. For the cost vs comfort/dry/wet performance/treadwear they're an excellent option for a dd tire with the occasional auto x thrown in. I run mine at 38 front, 36 rear all the time - 2002 n/a wagon.
Totally agree. Love mine too. Great tire.
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I wouldn't subyserb. You'll end up in the ditch.

The only thing I DON'T recommend these tires for is tracking in any way. I took my DW out for a spirited 20 minute track session a few weeks after I initially got them, and they become extremely greasy very quickly.

For Auto-X they should be fine as they won't get hot enough to cause the greasyness. for DD, they were truly one of my all-time favorite tires I've driven. They are simply fantastic in the rain (I hit a 2-3" deep puddle on a major highway doing 140 km/h (90mph) and I didn't waterplane the tires at all).
Totally agree. My DW's have seen every element the Midwest can throw at them and besides snow/sleet (which they are not designed to handle in the first place) they have been incredible. Although I haven't autox'd with them, I've hit plenty of parking lots and winding roads at speed and they've preformed beautifully.
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