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Old 03-28-2014, 10:12 PM   #1
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Default First drive 2015 WRX CVT

Well today I got to see and drive the new 2015 WRX. Looks better in person than in the pictures I thought. Anyway the CVT was a bitter sweet. It is nice to have the automatic but could never really see myself loving it when I wanted to "drive" the car. Going through the different modes did make a big difference in terms of "shifting". The SI mode felt pretty good. The car feels pretty quick still and the turbo is more noticeable in terms of noise compared to my 14 WRX. The headlights on this thing look so great. I love the headlights. Interior is better than originally expected but still hate the fact the the screen and user interface is the same as the forester. Backup camera is pretty nice though.

All in all as always it's a personal preference.

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Old 03-28-2014, 10:28 PM   #2
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:22 PM   #3
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Thanks for sharing. Did the CVT shift quickly?
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:32 PM   #4
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Thanks for sharing. Did the CVT shift quickly?
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:38 PM   #5
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Thanks for sharing. Did the CVT shift quickly?
Not sure if serious......
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:00 AM   #6
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Not sure if serious......
I guess maybe I worded it incorrectly. I have an IS350 with paddle shifters. There is a noticeable delay when using the paddles.

It's there a delay with the CVT?
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:40 AM   #7
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The CVT in just normal driving mode is just like you would expect. Step on the gas RPM shoot up and stay there. The sportier modes or paddle shifters do a good job of mimicking a standard automatic but there is a delay and you can tell its a CVT. You don't get that "in to gear" clunk that you would get from a normal auto trans. I do have to say it is the best CVT I have driven so I am not knocking it.
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:48 AM   #8
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I guess maybe I worded it incorrectly. I have an IS350 with paddle shifters. There is a noticeable delay when using the paddles.

It's there a delay with the CVT?
a cvt does not shift. imagine a belt/pulley system
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:57 AM   #9
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the looks on the car have grown on me. I will say, there are a handful of people that I know personally that aren't fans of the previous model looks but this new one has captured some main stream fans.
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:00 AM   #10
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Yeah I mean I still can't really get used to the new looks..still in love with the old ones!
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:15 AM   #11
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The "shift" thing has to do with Subaru mimicking an 8-speed transmission with perceivable "gears." The question is specific to the speed of that function. From previous editor reviews, the CVT "shifting" has been described as very quick, quick enough to be compared to dual clutch setups in operation.

On topic of the asked question, what do you think about the CVT's "shifting" performance?
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:38 AM   #12
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The "shift" thing has to do with Subaru mimicking an 8-speed transmission with perceivable "gears." The question is specific to the speed of that function. From previous editor reviews, the CVT "shifting" has been described as very quick, quick enough to be compared to dual clutch setups in operation.

On topic of the asked question, what do you think about the CVT's "shifting" performance?
I think the performance is great. It does "shift" quickly. Before I was mainly referring to a slight delay when using the paddle shifters but in terms of being in SI drive mode it does a great job of mimicking an 8 speed. At slower speeds it seems "shift happy" yet I can't say I've driven an actual 8 speed for comparison. Maybe that answers the question better?
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:54 AM   #13
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This might not be a fair question, but the '13 CVT that I have, the CVT logic is somewhat pliable, in that if you play with the paddles enough, the CVT controller adapts to the driving style you feed it and sets its "gearing" accordingly - for example, for the first 16k km (10k miles), I let the CVT decide RPMs to hold the car at when accelerating, and it tended to stay at or below 2.5k RPM; after 16k km (10k miles), I started using the paddles to "shift" when I wanted to (closer to 3k or 4k RPM), and now in "auto" mode it holds much better at 3-4k RPM when I accelerate.

Did you find the '15 WRX CVT to be the same way? Or was the test drive too short to test that part out?
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Old 03-29-2014, 12:20 PM   #14
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Of course, you can only option the CVT on the premium model which means the cheapest CVT model is north of $30k. No thanks. I see too many reasons to stick with the MT.
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:18 PM   #15
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Did you find the '15 WRX CVT to be the same way? Or was the test drive too short to test that part out?
The test drive was not long enough to see more of a long term adjustment. This is not my car and unfortunately I won't have that answer from personal experience. I'm sure that some research I could find that answer out though. I would assume that is does adapt to driving habits but as in how much I'd have to research and/or drive for an extended time.


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Of course, you can only option the CVT on the premium model which means the cheapest CVT model is north of $30k. No thanks. I see too many reasons to stick with the MT.
The two that were here were price on the sticker just above $33k
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Old 03-29-2014, 01:40 PM   #16
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The test drive was not long enough to see more of a long term adjustment. This is not my car and unfortunately I won't have that answer from personal experience. I'm sure that some research I could find that answer out though. I would assume that is does adapt to driving habits but as in how much I'd have to research and/or drive for an extended time.
Thanks nonetheless.

I'm considering moving "up" to the WRX, but will probably wait until the '17 model year first, considering it often takes a couple of model years to identify issues and really shake the bugs out of the system.
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:06 PM   #17
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How does the 15' sound compared to your 14'? Exhaust/engine wise
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:47 PM   #18
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How does the 15' sound compared to your 14'? Exhaust/engine wise
Sounded like you could hear the engine/turbo more than the 14. It may have been just me paying more attention but I really do feel you can hear the turbo better at least.
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Thanks nonetheless.

I'm considering moving "up" to the WRX, but will probably wait until the '17 model year first, considering it often takes a couple of model years to identify issues and really shake the bugs out of the system.
Funny, this is one of the major reasons why I bought the '14 instead, lol.
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Excellent, I was waiting for someone to share their impressions of the '15 + CVT. I'm seriously considering one. I have a few questions hopefully you can answer.
1) Do you feel any turbo lag with the CVT?
2) Does the CVT feel "lazy" in intelligent mode?
3) Is there any difference in acceleration (0-60) between the 3 modes?
4) Do you really have to use launch control to get the best acceleration or can you just floor it from a standstill?
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:04 PM   #21
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Excellent, I was waiting for someone to share their impressions of the '15 + CVT. I'm seriously considering one. I have a few questions hopefully you can answer.
1) Do you feel any turbo lag with the CVT?
2) Does the CVT feel "lazy" in intelligent mode?
3) Is there any difference in acceleration (0-60) between the 3 modes?
4) Do you really have to use launch control to get the best acceleration or can you just floor it from a standstill?
1. I don't feel much turbo lag. There may be the slightest lag do to the drivetrain now having to go through the CVT. But on the butt dyno it did not feel like much.

2. When you are in any mode other than normal driving mode it is pretty responsive. In SI drive if your coming into a corner and are at a higher RPM it will hold that "gear" while you go through the turn so you can power out of the turn.

3. That's something I don't know off the top of my head but look for like car and driver or something like that and I'm sure you can find that answer.

4. I did not use launch control on this test drive.
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:59 PM   #22
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1. I don't feel much turbo lag. There may be the slightest lag do to the drivetrain now having to go through the CVT. But on the butt dyno it did not feel like much.

2. When you are in any mode other than normal driving mode it is pretty responsive. In SI drive if your coming into a corner and are at a higher RPM it will hold that "gear" while you go through the turn so you can power out of the turn.

3. That's something I don't know off the top of my head but look for like car and driver or something like that and I'm sure you can find that answer.

4. I did not use launch control on this test drive.
I noticed even in " I " mode my car burst into life after 2,000 RPM
with 4,000-5,000rpm range being FULL POWER.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:34 PM   #24
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I'm not a fan of how it looks unfortunately...
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:37 PM   #25
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I wonder what bugs could be fixed through a Cobb Accessport and a good tuner...I had a 02 4eat stage 3 pushing 20lbs boost that i loved however I was never under any illusion the my stage 3 could beat a manual stage 3 and i was fine with that. I wanna see the potential when a good tuner gets their hands on one.
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