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Old 03-30-2014, 01:30 PM   #1
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I'm thinking about lifting my wrx with king springs so I'm looking into rally wheels. Thinking 15x7 rims and would like to get some all-seasons that perform really well in the snow since I live in Utah. My car is my daily driver so 95% pavement and wkend dirt road camping trips. Any ideas would be great.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:13 PM   #2
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Check continental dws. They're awesome all seasons:
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:41 PM   #3
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+1 I run Conti DWS on my winter setup. Great all season tire. Only thing I don't like is their behavior on the limit when it's dry.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:03 PM   #4
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+1 I run Conti DWS on my winter setup. Great all season tire. Only thing I don't like is their behavior on the limit when it's dry.
Was planning on saying just that. Loved my DWS', now running DW for the summer, Blizzaks for the winter. The DW's stick like glue the harder you push them, DWS' feel as though they start to give a bit too quickly, but still phenomenal for every day driving.
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forget 15's....waste of time unless you R A C E

dws would be a disaster off road.....no way in hell id do that...they would be punctured in a minit with their bubble gum soft sidewalls
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Old 04-01-2014, 05:51 AM   #6
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OP off-road may be different than yours.
Dirt roads do not yell sharp boulders everywhere, at least in MA ;-)

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Old 04-03-2014, 12:40 AM   #7
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Was planning on saying just that. Loved my DWS', now running DW for the summer, Blizzaks for the winter. The DW's stick like glue the harder you push them, DWS' feel as though they start to give a bit too quickly, but still phenomenal for every day driving.
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Same here. Dws were on my car first. Then dabbled with some potenzas before settling on the DW. And blizzaks in winter on winter wheels.

Dws werent the best cornering in dry. But ok in snow.
My dw tires rock tho! Great rain contact and dry contact.
Im running 245/40/17s with 36f 34r pressures.

Going to experiment a little.
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Old 04-06-2014, 08:09 PM   #8
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Yea...just grabbing some sparco terras on tirerack. What is the max diameter on wrx struts again? I was looking at the General AltiMAX RT43s. Think I'm going to keep my snow setup just because snow tires are made for the snow period. Silly of me to think of selling them.
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Old 04-06-2014, 08:21 PM   #9
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When I go off-road they are not paved gravel ha. I would like a all season/terrain. Need something that will not wear like crazy on pavement and not destroy my mpg. I travel up a canyon for work 5 days a wk. Do not want general grabbers. I still like to go fast on tarmac!
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I do not think anybody makes A/T tires in car sizes.
Good luck.

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There's the yokohama geolander and general grabber. Grabber seems to aggresive for 60mile daily commute and I read the geolanders wear pretty quick. I think I can run 215/65/16s on stock wrx struts. I read somewhere that someone was running 215 or 225/65/16 grabbers on stock ride height and just rubbed liners on hard turns etc. I will be running king lift springs so rubbing liner should not be an issue just concerned on lower strut perch. A rugged all season would be my best interest, if there's such a thing..ha
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Same here. Dws were on my car first. Then dabbled with some potenzas before settling on the DW. And blizzaks in winter on winter wheels.

Dws werent the best cornering in dry. But ok in snow.
My dw tires rock tho! Great rain contact and dry contact.
Im running 245/40/17s with 36f 34r pressures.

Going to experiment a little.
Hell yeah sounds like a good setup, I went with 225/45 for a bit of stretch. I've spent a few weeks on my DW's now and I'm absolutely in love. Granted about half of that time was still in the wet/sleet (endless winter); needless to say things have been a bit squirrelly in the corners for me.
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DW or DWS?
Hard to imagine DW handling sleet with aplomb.

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the michelin a/s 3 has been getting great reviews for all types of weather. i have dws's myself for my winter set-up. good, but not great in the snow. (while few all-seasons really are, some are), and the dws's predecessor was much better). another to look at is nokian entyre, but more expensive and dealers are few.
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the michelin a/s 3 has been getting great reviews for all types of weather. i have dws's myself for my winter set-up. good, but not great in the snow. (while few all-seasons really are, some are), and the dws's predecessor was much better). another to look at is nokian entyre, but more expensive and dealers are few.
All seasons shouldnt be used as a winter tire. They are for people who live somewhere where they might get some snow occasionally.
Get some winter contacts from conti if you want a conti winter tire.

Dws are ok at best in the snow. Still wont save ur ass on black ice
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Hankooks ventus s1 Noble 2. Much better tire than the DWS. DWS have too soft sidewalls.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:41 AM   #17
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All seasons shouldnt be used as a winter tire. They are for people who live somewhere where they might get some snow occasionally.
Get some winter contacts from conti if you want a conti winter tire.

Dws are ok at best in the snow. Still wont save ur ass on black ice
I disagree. I can get through NYC winters just fine with a good All season + AWD.

Winters are great and necessary if you have a fwd/rwd car w/ bad winters. Winter tires suck most of the time when there is no snow on the ground. Id rather have a good all season than a winter tire that makes driving my car suck for 4 months out of the year. There is a significant amount of time during winter where there is no snow but it is too cold for summers. All seasons win during these situations.
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I disagree. I can get through NYC winters just fine with a good All season + AWD.

Winters are great and necessary if you have a fwd/rwd car w/ bad winters. Winter tires suck most of the time when there is no snow on the ground. Id rather have a good all season than a winter tire that makes driving my car suck for 4 months out of the year. There is a significant amount of time during winter where there is no snow but it is too cold for summers. All seasons win during these situations.

and this is why.....oh
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I disagree. I can get through NYC winters just fine with a good All season + AWD.

Winters are great and necessary if you have a fwd/rwd car w/ bad winters. Winter tires suck most of the time when there is no snow on the ground. Id rather have a good all season than a winter tire that makes driving my car suck for 4 months out of the year. There is a significant amount of time during winter where there is no snow but it is too cold for summers. All seasons win during these situations.
Have you seen performance winter tires?
My wife got Michelin X-Ice Xi3 (Dunlops 4D refused to be balanced), which are studless winter tires. I was amazed how civilized they were in any conditions.

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Have you seen performance winter tires?
My wife got Michelin X-Ice Xi3 (Dunlops 4D refused to be balanced), which are studless winter tires. I was amazed how civilized they were in any conditions.

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Yes i had the Dunlop 4Ds on my C250 coupe. I loved them in the snow. Felt too soft in every other condition though.

winters/summer combo is great. But All seasons are still plenty drivable in the snow with a car like the wrx/sti.
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and this is why.....oh
this is why what? go ahead

i didn't say winter/summer combo was bad. Just that IMO for me id rather have all seasons. People can have different opinions
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Yes i had the Dunlop 4Ds on my C250 coupe. I loved them in the snow. Felt too soft in every other condition though.

winters/summer combo is great. But All seasons are still plenty drivable in the snow with a car like the wrx/sti.
Yes its doable....but why limit yourself in ALL categories....?

I picked a summer tire for daily driving as the all seasons dry grip isnt amazing....
And I picked a winter tire on another set of wheels just for snow trips because the all seasons snow/ice grip isnt amazing.


Thats fine, you can drive flat new york all you want in the snow. But once you start driving over 7000 foot icey mountain passes in the sierra nevada, all seasons start to sound like a bad idea.

Start to feel like a bad idea as well.

Mind you subaru has 3-4 different all wheel drive configurations....

Theres the dccd, 50-50, 55-45 and a 90-10.

Which all handle differently in any given condition.

Can you get by with all seasons? Sure....


Would I trust my passangers and my own life in a serious winter storm trying to stop on all seasons going down a 7% grade of black ice?
Yer smokin crack now......


And to your comment about the hankooks....they are #1 above the dws #2....really doesnt mean anything....my re970as potenzas were #1 for a couple months too....until they start getting more reviews.

Dws still has better snow rating....and the review count is at 36 million....

Vs the hankooks which only have a measly 215k reviews. Trust me they wont be #1 for long as the dws still reigns supreme for the best all season tire you can get....

Also why were you driving winter tires around like regular tires?

The 4d is meant to put on during your trip to the snow and then remove and replace with daily driving tires.

User error on your part thinking winter dunlops were performance tires for a mercedes.


And scotty was about to correct you but decided he wasnt going to waste any more finger workouts on your dumbass......

Educate your self a little more before spewing this crap all over a good technical forum.
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Yes i had the Dunlop 4Ds on my C250 coupe. I loved them in the snow. Felt too soft in every other condition though.

winters/summer combo is great. But All seasons are still plenty drivable in the snow with a car like the wrx/sti.
I bet if you had DWS they would be "too soft in any condition" but what exactly "too soft" mean?

I have never found any performance winters that I used to be that much different from all seasons in dry or wet (TS810, 3D, 4D). I even found that H rated Xice Xi-3 are quite similar to performance winters in dry and wet but much better in snow and ice.

Drivable in Long Island may be different than drivable in Adirondacks. AWD does not help braking or turning.

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All seasons shouldnt be used as a winter tire. They are for people who live somewhere where they might get some snow occasionally.
Get some winter contacts from conti if you want a conti winter tire.

Dws are ok at best in the snow. Still wont save ur ass on black ice
says the guy from santa cruz? here i can go to any parking lot around and will see 1 of 10 cars on real snow tires. yet 9 of 10 cars won't DIAF over the season
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says the guy from santa cruz? here i can go to any parking lot around and will see 1 of 10 cars on real snow tires. yet 9 of 10 cars won't DIAF over the season
Thats because 9/10 people are ****ing idiots. Its what seperates the boys from the men.

And yes....says the guy from santa cruz who drives 4 hours on conti winter contacts to tahoe multiple times a season.

Hopefully you are in the 10% category with the rest of us who are passing a fatality accident in the snow because some idiot didnt know anything about tires let alone driving....
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