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Old 06-07-2014, 12:18 PM   #76
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:30 PM   #77
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At the Beijing Motor Show earlier this year, Volkswagen showcased a concept hatchback called the Golf R 400. It was essentially the Golf R we already know and love, but with an even more powerful engine to make it the most potent take on the Golf since the GTI 650 concept of 2007. Only unlike that bonkers, W12-powered prototype, which was never intended as anything other than a show car, rumors have been percolating over the past half year that VW could actually put the Golf R 400 concept into production.

This time, Britain's Car magazine claims that the bean-counters in Wolfsburg have given the Golf R 400 the green light for production. Its high-output turbo four, also showcased on the Audi TT Quattro Sport concept, is tipped to produce between 400 and 414 hp – far more than the 290 hp in the existing Golf R, the 210 hp in the GTI or the 170 hp in the base Golf we get in the US. The added juice could bump the designation up to Golf R 420.

Visual and aerodynamic enhancements are tipped to remain relatively low-key, with brakes and suspension further upgraded to handle the extra power. We wouldn't expect it to be too off-the-wall, though, because this top-spec hot hatch would likely be a full production model and not a limited run, and as such would still need to roll down the standard production line.

Even if the Golf R 400 were put into production, however, we wouldn't hold our breath for it making the journey to US showrooms. When reached for comment, Volkswagen of America spokesmen couldn't tell us one way or another. But the price tag would almost certainly exceed $40k, and while VW might find a sufficiently large cadre of European buyers motivated enough to pony up their hard-earned euros for a 400-hp hot hatch to warrant production, getting American buyers to part with that much cash for a Golf would be a tough sell.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:23 PM   #78
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Surprised it's green lighted for any market... not surprised we probably won't see it. Hopefully this puts some pressure on Subaru!
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:31 PM   #79
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Surprised it's green lighted for any market... not surprised we probably won't see it. Hopefully this puts some pressure on Subaru!
If this was priced similarly to the STI then it would put pressure on them. But I see this vehicle not coming state side, and it also being very expensive. Hopefully the normal golf R puts pressure on subaru to step up their game. With the evo going bye bye, someone needs to step into the market with innovative ideas, so that companies will actually compete. Those who are glad the evo failed, dont understand that competition is what drives companies to sink money into R&D.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:41 PM   #80
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If this was priced similarly to the STI then it would put pressure on them. But I see this vehicle not coming state side, and it also being very expensive. Hopefully the normal golf R puts pressure on subaru to step up their game. With the evo going bye bye, someone needs to step into the market with innovative ideas, so that companies will actually compete. Those who are glad the evo failed, dont understand that competition is what drives companies to sink money into R&D.
I agree, and will most likely be buying a 2015 R once the MT is available. I expect that for 38k a 2015 R will compare quite favorably against a 2015 STI Limited. The interior alone is amazing. Anyone who thinks the loss of the Evo is a positive thing is a dope.

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Old 11-12-2014, 11:53 PM   #81
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I agree, and will most likely be buying a 2015 R once the MT is available. I expect that for 38k a 2015 R will compare quite favorably against a 2015 STI Limited. The interior alone is amazing. Anyone who thinks the loss of the Evo is a positive thing is a dope.

I think you will be very happy with it. I'd trade my MKVI GTI in on a new R if it was for the fact ill be needing a larger vehicle soon.
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Old 11-13-2014, 01:03 AM   #82
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:05 AM   #83
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Obviously NOT gonna make it here given the 400 HP price tag.
Fixed. Nothing personal, ForesTurbo.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:48 PM   #84
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400HP for $40k or low 40's? Sign me up. I'd be happy to give them my money.
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Old 11-13-2014, 04:52 PM   #85
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A 400 hp price tag for a VW is a 200 hp pricetag for an Audi...it's all relative. lol
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I think VW could sell it here and it shouldn't be hugely expensive it's a slightly modified Golf R engine with a few add ons. Now whether or not there is a business case...

If it was similarly priced to a loaded Mustang GT I'd certainly take a look ($40k-$45k). Apples to oranges but I'm thinking performance to price.
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Old 11-14-2014, 08:41 AM   #87
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I think you will be very happy with it. I'd trade my MKVI GTI in on a new R if it was for the fact ill be needing a larger vehicle soon.
Yeah, I've got a MkVI TDI now with a Malone tune for work that I'd trade on it. No complaints about it at all, no issues, just needs more top end and AWD. The torque is pretty amazing though.

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I think VW could sell it here and it shouldn't be hugely expensive it's a slightly modified Golf R engine with a few add ons. Now whether or not there is a business case...
I would guess another 6k on top of the base R so probably 40 to start, 43 with nav, 45 with DSG and nav etc. Still quite a bit less than the same powertrain under an RS3 guise.
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VW Golf R 400 reportedly green-lit (again)

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/26/v...00-production/

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After speaking to Volkswagen powertrain boss Dr. Heinz-Jakob Neusser at the 2015 New York International Auto Show, we uncovered that the Volkswagen Golf R 400 would be sold in the United States... if it ever made it to production at all, that is.

That prerequisite looks like it's about to be fulfilled, as the same good doctor that said the super-powered GTI would come to the US has confirmed to Car that development is currently underway. This follows up on reports from late 2014 that the 400-horsepower car would make production.

"We have the Golf more sporty than ever before, since we soon will have the Golf R 400 we will do this car," Neusser told Car. "We are in fact in development of it right now."

That is, we think you'll agree, splendid news. Of course, it also begs the question of when the new car will arrive. According to Car, it'll be just "a few short months," indicating that the Frankfurt Motor Show will likely host the Golf R 400's debut later this year. Whether that proves correct, though, likely won't be clear until later this summer.
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Old 04-27-2015, 12:43 PM   #89
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Nice, everyone is upping their game EXCEPT Subaru. Sad.

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Old 04-27-2015, 08:04 PM   #90
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They really don't need to. They're selling their vanilla cars faster than the can make them.
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They really don't need to. They're selling their vanilla cars faster than the can make them.
+1 It's not broken so they don't "need" to fix anything. There's room for improvement but it's not broken.
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You are right. And they should just give a box of saltine crackers with every purchase.
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They really don't need to. They're selling their vanilla cars faster than the can make them.
So Subaru is now the AWD Toyota? I agree there are bahzillion imprezas, XVs, outbacks, and foresters on the road around me.

They could lose the WRX and STi and still be just fine as a company. With their new competition that might be the best choice.
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So Subaru is now the AWD Toyota? I agree there are bahzillion imprezas, XVs, outbacks, and foresters on the road around me.



They could lose the WRX and STi and still be just fine as a company. With their new competition that might be the best choice.

That's what they are to me. I've never been less interested in Subaru, but I can't be mad because I'm obviously not the target demographic to make them money.

I suspect the STI isn't long for this world.
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I'd totally like to see the STI as-is dropped, and the WRX receive the STI's transmission standard. Then the WRX STI trim would actually just be a WRX tS with Brembos and suspension tweaks. It would almost be the same as the rest of the line-up gets in Japan (and what Subaru wants to do in the U.S.).

With alleviated STI production they could maybe afford to make a hatch/wagon again for the masses. The 2015+ WRX already gets 5x114.3 and the 2016 WRX gets inverted struts up front and the previous gen base model STI's wheels. They've never been closer. Just up-rate the FA20DIT to 300HP (which it pretty much already is in Japan) and you're golden.

But since that's not happening anytime soon, this vehicle still holds appeal if the price point can be set reasonably.
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I'd totally like to see the STI as-is dropped, and the WRX receive the STI's transmission standard. Then the WRX STI trim would actually just be a WRX tS with Brembos and suspension tweaks. It would almost be the same as the rest of the line-up gets in Japan (and what Subaru wants to do in the U.S.).

With alleviated STI production they could maybe afford to make a hatch/wagon again for the masses. The 2015+ WRX already gets 5x114.3 and the 2016 WRX gets inverted struts up front and the previous gen base model STI's wheels. They've never been closer. Just up-rate the FA20DIT to 300HP (which it pretty much already is in Japan) and you're golden.

But since that's not happening anytime soon, this vehicle still holds appeal if the price point can be set reasonably.
I would totally go for this. Then offer STI performance/appearance packages and catalog items similar to what Ford does with the Mustang.
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Old 04-28-2015, 04:54 PM   #97
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If they bring this car to the States, I'll buy it. I can look past the VW reliability history since I'll buy new and have warranty. About the only thing holding me back from the Golf R is how sedate it looks.
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R400 spotted testing, via autoblog.com

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Old 05-20-2015, 11:18 AM   #99
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Damn, that is a sexy car.
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Old 05-20-2015, 11:19 AM   #100
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i dont see any testing equipment in there or anythign else that tells me its testing anything. Looks like your standard golf with rims and wing.
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