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Old 06-07-2014, 12:18 PM   #76
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:30 PM   #77
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http://www.autoblog.com/2014/11/12/v...ion-rumormill/
At the Beijing Motor Show earlier this year, Volkswagen showcased a concept hatchback called the Golf R 400. It was essentially the Golf R we already know and love, but with an even more powerful engine to make it the most potent take on the Golf since the GTI 650 concept of 2007. Only unlike that bonkers, W12-powered prototype, which was never intended as anything other than a show car, rumors have been percolating over the past half year that VW could actually put the Golf R 400 concept into production.

This time, Britain's Car magazine claims that the bean-counters in Wolfsburg have given the Golf R 400 the green light for production. Its high-output turbo four, also showcased on the Audi TT Quattro Sport concept, is tipped to produce between 400 and 414 hp – far more than the 290 hp in the existing Golf R, the 210 hp in the GTI or the 170 hp in the base Golf we get in the US. The added juice could bump the designation up to Golf R 420.

Visual and aerodynamic enhancements are tipped to remain relatively low-key, with brakes and suspension further upgraded to handle the extra power. We wouldn't expect it to be too off-the-wall, though, because this top-spec hot hatch would likely be a full production model and not a limited run, and as such would still need to roll down the standard production line.

Even if the Golf R 400 were put into production, however, we wouldn't hold our breath for it making the journey to US showrooms. When reached for comment, Volkswagen of America spokesmen couldn't tell us one way or another. But the price tag would almost certainly exceed $40k, and while VW might find a sufficiently large cadre of European buyers motivated enough to pony up their hard-earned euros for a 400-hp hot hatch to warrant production, getting American buyers to part with that much cash for a Golf would be a tough sell.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:23 PM   #78
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Surprised it's green lighted for any market... not surprised we probably won't see it. Hopefully this puts some pressure on Subaru!
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:31 PM   #79
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Surprised it's green lighted for any market... not surprised we probably won't see it. Hopefully this puts some pressure on Subaru!
If this was priced similarly to the STI then it would put pressure on them. But I see this vehicle not coming state side, and it also being very expensive. Hopefully the normal golf R puts pressure on subaru to step up their game. With the evo going bye bye, someone needs to step into the market with innovative ideas, so that companies will actually compete. Those who are glad the evo failed, dont understand that competition is what drives companies to sink money into R&D.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:41 PM   #80
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If this was priced similarly to the STI then it would put pressure on them. But I see this vehicle not coming state side, and it also being very expensive. Hopefully the normal golf R puts pressure on subaru to step up their game. With the evo going bye bye, someone needs to step into the market with innovative ideas, so that companies will actually compete. Those who are glad the evo failed, dont understand that competition is what drives companies to sink money into R&D.
I agree, and will most likely be buying a 2015 R once the MT is available. I expect that for 38k a 2015 R will compare quite favorably against a 2015 STI Limited. The interior alone is amazing. Anyone who thinks the loss of the Evo is a positive thing is a dope.

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Old 11-12-2014, 11:53 PM   #81
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I agree, and will most likely be buying a 2015 R once the MT is available. I expect that for 38k a 2015 R will compare quite favorably against a 2015 STI Limited. The interior alone is amazing. Anyone who thinks the loss of the Evo is a positive thing is a dope.

I think you will be very happy with it. I'd trade my MKVI GTI in on a new R if it was for the fact ill be needing a larger vehicle soon.
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Old 11-13-2014, 01:03 AM   #82
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:05 AM   #83
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Obviously NOT gonna make it here given the 400 HP price tag.
Fixed. Nothing personal, ForesTurbo.
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Old 11-13-2014, 02:48 PM   #84
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400HP for $40k or low 40's? Sign me up. I'd be happy to give them my money.
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A 400 hp price tag for a VW is a 200 hp pricetag for an Audi...it's all relative. lol
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I think VW could sell it here and it shouldn't be hugely expensive it's a slightly modified Golf R engine with a few add ons. Now whether or not there is a business case...

If it was similarly priced to a loaded Mustang GT I'd certainly take a look ($40k-$45k). Apples to oranges but I'm thinking performance to price.
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Old 11-14-2014, 08:41 AM   #87
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I think you will be very happy with it. I'd trade my MKVI GTI in on a new R if it was for the fact ill be needing a larger vehicle soon.
Yeah, I've got a MkVI TDI now with a Malone tune for work that I'd trade on it. No complaints about it at all, no issues, just needs more top end and AWD. The torque is pretty amazing though.

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I think VW could sell it here and it shouldn't be hugely expensive it's a slightly modified Golf R engine with a few add ons. Now whether or not there is a business case...
I would guess another 6k on top of the base R so probably 40 to start, 43 with nav, 45 with DSG and nav etc. Still quite a bit less than the same powertrain under an RS3 guise.
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