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Old 04-22-2014, 02:30 AM   #51
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Three reasons I wanted the 2015 WRX:
1. 5x114.3.
2. Twin Scroll.
3. Updated interior.

Three reasons I didn't get the 2015 WRX:
1. The DI system is not yet proven. (carbon buildup, 60k service, ect...)
2. The exterior styling leaves me cringing.
3. The lack of the signature boxer rumble leads me to believe that the WRX has gone "white-bread".

But what do my opinions matter? OP go test drive em both and choose your favorite.
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Old 04-22-2014, 04:02 AM   #52
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search on the forum for 2011+ rattles, pretty sure there was 20 page thread about it and on clubwrx as well. edit: Civic with a hood scoop? LMAO I have to bite my lip at stuff like this, jesus
Oh no I am fully aware of all the issues I have just been lucky
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:05 AM   #53
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Interesting discussion. I am going car shopping with my brother this week. A manual driver, he was previously thinking of going for the CVT so the wife is able to drive it occasionally. However, he seems to now be leaning towards the 6mt .

I'm going to have him drive mine so he can get a feel of the differences. I may also try and get some wheel time in the 6mt.

0% chance of trading in the '11 though.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:35 AM   #54
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Three reasons I wanted the 2015 WRX:
1. 5x114.3.
2. Twin Scroll.
3. Updated interior.

Three reasons I didn't get the 2015 WRX:
1. The DI system is not yet proven. (carbon buildup, 60k service, ect...)
2. The exterior styling leaves me cringing.
3. The lack of the signature boxer rumble leads me to believe that the WRX has gone "white-bread".

But what do my opinions matter? OP go test drive em both and choose your favorite.
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if you don't list the handling and steering as reasons why you went one way or the other you definitely made the right choice with the 14


ahh the sound of white bread
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:50 AM   #55
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if you don't list the handling and steering as reasons why you went one way or the other you definitely made the right choice with the 14

http://youtu.be/DQuqo7OFoy8

ahh the sound of white bread
Sounds a little similar to my 2012, which has ELH & catted DP, but stock catback. I imagine a DP (overpipe?) will wake it up a bit more.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:53 AM   #56
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yeah I'm sure
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:56 AM   #57
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I think it sounds pretty good... I would not really want anything more aggressive than that.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:16 AM   #58
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Youre missing the point, my rude little internet acquaintance. The 2011+ wrx came in manual only trim, just like the sti. This effectively elevated it closer to sti status. Now, with the addition of the cvt, the wrx has been lowered closer to 2.5gt level...
you know how many high performance cars are available with auto? heck many are only. even carerra turbo is pdk only now. the new huracan as well.

not mention, as already mentioned, wrx except for a short timeframe has always been available with an auto. THE HORRIBLE!!!!
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:20 AM   #59
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can't really compare the pdk to a cvt but yeah, just about everything comes with auto. Why would you sell a manual only car when 95% of new cars sold are auto, its just stupid.

There is a serious lack of practical, normal cars with balls these days. Maybe some none car person wants an AWD sedan with some power. Maybe some enthusiast who loves manual transmissions has to drive through Manhattan every day. The thing I don't get about the cvt is the mpg rating. They couldn't do better than 19/25? I know its supposed to get 23/30 in intelligent mode but buyers aren't going to know that.

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Old 04-22-2014, 10:20 AM   #60
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I have driven many 2014 WRX's and I purchased a new 2015. As far as high speed handling and also use as a daily driver the 2015 wins hands down. Added benefit is now I can actually fit someone in the rear seat.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:30 AM   #61
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the last gen had pretty good rear leg room also.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:34 AM   #62
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I have driven many 2014 WRX's and I purchased a new 2015. As far as high speed handling and also use as a daily driver the 2015 wins hands down. Added benefit is now I can actually fit someone in the rear seat.
Yup, that extra 1" of rear legroom makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it? Before, you couldn't fit a baby in there, but now you can fit three full sized adults on a 10hr drive.


This thread is full of silly.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:37 AM   #63
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you are right about the leg room thing, but you supplied most of the silly
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:43 AM   #64
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you are right about the leg room thing, but you supplied most of the silly
Thank you, child.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:44 AM   #65
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looks like you better not buy an 08-14 because that exists
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:51 AM   #66
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if you don't list the handling and steering as reasons why you went one way or the other you definitely made the right choice with the 14

http://youtu.be/DQuqo7OFoy8

ahh the sound of white bread
For the price they're asking with all the stupid markup the "improved handling" can easily be matched on the 11-14 with after market parts like the OP said. I agree that One more thing to add is the 6 speed.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:57 AM   #67
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For the price they're asking with all the stupid markup the "improved handling" can easily be matched on the 11-14 with after market parts like the OP said. I agree that One more thing to add is the 6 speed.
Anyone that pays the markup is a fool. There are plenty of people that have paid invoice or less for the 2015.

And explain to me how you are going to improve the steering ratio and also strengthen the entire chassis (and I am not just talking about anti-sway bars)?
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:06 AM   #68
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Yup, that extra 1" of rear legroom makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it? Before, you couldn't fit a baby in there, but now you can fit three full sized adults on a 10hr drive.

This thread is full of silly.
It really is...
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:36 AM   #69
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I find it sad that the only quality you seem to find redeeming in a car is they way it looks on the outside.

As for rattles, yep my 14 WRX rattled and creaked all winter, but so did our Honda. When it hits -30 to -50 it is hard to blame the car.
I find it silly that your reading comprehension (or lack there of) leads you to believe that's all I care about. I'll rephase a bit: I want a car that performs how I expect it to but I ALSO need to be able to look back at it and find it to be a good looking car.

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I have driven many 2014 WRX's and I purchased a new 2015. As far as high speed handling and also use as a daily driver the 2015 wins hands down. Added benefit is now I can actually fit someone in the rear seat.
Really? I had 4 adults AND a car seat (forward facing) in my car with my at the time 3 year old for a 3 hour trip. Never had a problem with leg room...maybe you're just a freakishly tall giant who hangs out with other freakishly tall giants. I'm 5'11" and my ex was the one sitting behind me next to my daughter (Dad was in the passenger seat) and she's 5'8". Hmmm

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Yup, that extra 1" of rear legroom makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it? Before, you couldn't fit a baby in there, but now you can fit three full sized adults on a 10hr drive.


This thread is full of silly.
Mucho silly. I get the need to feel superior for owning the latest and greatest (hell, that's what most people care about these days, gotta have the hot new iPhone/clothes/etc) but consensus says that for those who love their 11-14 there's no real reason to trade up. As for handling, I have nothing done to my car handling wise except ISC coils, cost me less than 900.00 3 years ago. I'd like to compare the two side by side because I don't think the 15 will beat my car in handling and daily driveability.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:43 AM   #70
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I spoke with a vendor who specializes in WRX handling who has was driven both the 15 WRX/STI (at the track nonetheless) and I asked him flat out, what would you do if you were me, spend the $2K or so to upgrade the 14 WRX or take the hit and buy the 15? He told me he would take the hit and buy the 15 because it is that much better than the 14 in terms of handling alone. And this guy makes his living selling aftermarket parts to improve the previous generation WRX's.

I guess a test drive either tomorrow or Thursday will confirm that for me.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:57 AM   #71
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My thoughts on the whole GR vs 2015 upgrade debate.



Seriously, even with stock tires, my 22mm sway bars, and steering rack bushings, the car is more nimble and grippy than I'll ever actually need / have the balls to utilize.

The steering ratio on the 2015 does intrigue me though. As does the 6 spd. And the twin scroll. It's like every possible upgrade has already been done from the factory. If only they just put it all in the 2011-2014 body.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:58 AM   #72
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Yup, that extra 1" of rear legroom makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it? Before, you couldn't fit a baby in there, but now you can fit three full sized adults on a 10hr drive.


This thread is full of silly.
not sure if serious.. 1" does make a lot of difference. speaking as someone with 3 kids who has compiled a lot of rear seat data for several vehicles. leg room is only one measurement. hip room, shoulder room, head room all factor. even 1" can rule out several models of baby or booster seats.
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Old 04-22-2014, 11:59 AM   #73
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This thread is gonna go on forever, the GR crowd will say there car is fine and can be upgraded etc, the 15 crowd will say the car is an improvement and people will fight

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Old 04-22-2014, 12:00 PM   #74
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My thoughts on the whole GR vs 2015 upgrade debate.


Seriously, even with stock tires, my 22mm sway bars, and steering rack bushings, the car is more nimble and grippy than I'll ever actually need.

The steering ratio on the 2015 does intrigue me though. As does the 6 spd. And the twin scroll. It's like every possible upgrade has already been done from the factory. If only they just put it all in the 2011-2014 body.
Well I came from a BRZ and have owned numerous other cars (3 RX-7's) that were much better handling cars. Using the scale of the BRZ being a 10/10 for me in terms of handling and suspension I would rate the 14 WRX a 6.5/10. If I was coming from a Camry I am sure I would find the 14 WRX to be a big improvement, but the more I drive the car the more I find it lacking. I am hoping the 15 is closer to an 8/10 compared to the BRZ.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:01 PM   #75
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My thoughts on the whole GR vs 2015 upgrade debate.



Seriously, even with stock tires, my 22mm sway bars, and steering rack bushings, the car is more nimble and grippy than I'll ever actually need / have the balls to utilize.

The steering ratio on the 2015 does intrigue me though. As does the 6 spd. And the twin scroll. It's like every possible upgrade has already been done from the factory. If only they just put it all in the 2011-2014 body.
its not so much about the extra grip, its a matter of the chassis being more playful. It just feels sharper and it feels much better at high speeds
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