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Old 04-23-2014, 05:26 PM   #26
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this is a STI mine is just a WRX 2.0
It's not a STI, it's a Hybrid WRX. That guy is a friend of mine.
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Old 04-24-2014, 01:28 AM   #27
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You dont and wont need one step colder plugs
"A rule of thumb is one heat range colder for every 75–-100hp you increase"

He doesn't NEED them but it wouldn't hurt either.




I basically have same mods in my 02 wrx although I only have on a Evo III 16G and I would highly recommend the valve body upgrade as well. Had mine done through IPT, lil pricey but worth it(around $580 after shipping). Your trans will thank you and your shifts will be quicker and less sloppy feeling. I actually got a hold of another valve body to send out to help minimize down time.

I skipped doing the high-stall torque converter cause 1, I don't brake boost my car and 2, it can be annoying at highway cruise speeds, eats up your gas mileage too.

What your list is missing though is a tranny cooler, you are REALLY going to want one of these to help keep that tranny cold, as well as synthetic oil when fill the trans back up. And also, be prepared for your radiator to possible go up as well shortly after this, the stock radiator doesn't last too long at times dealing with all that heat, they are notorious for cracking at the top section where they are just plastic. And when it does, most aftermarket radiators don't have a tranny cooler built into them like our stock ones do, but that wont be an issue cause you'll already have an aftermarket tranny cooler Wouldn't hurt to get a tranny temp gauge too while you're at it...

I'm making 288whp & 255wtq @ 19psi on 93 oct gas, I have no doubt you could make 330'swhp with an 18g plus meth, depending how high you're willing to run the psi.

Link to my dyno sheet - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2520223

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Old 04-24-2014, 10:25 AM   #28
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"A rule of thumb is one heat range colder for every 75–100hp you increase"

He doesn't NEED them but it wouldn't hurt either.

I basically have same mods in my 02 wrx although I only have on a Evo III 16G and I would highly recommend the valve body upgrade as well. Had mine done through IPT, lil pricey but worth it(around $580 after shipping). Your trans will thank you and your shifts will be quicker and less sloppy feeling. I actually got a hold of another valve body to send out to help minimize down time.

I skipped doing the high-stall torque converter cause 1, I don't brake boost my car and 2, it can be annoying at highway cruise speeds, eats up your gas mileage too.

What your list is missing though is a tranny cooler, you are REALLY going to want one of these to help keep that tranny cold, as well as synthetic oil when fill the trans back up. And also, be prepared for your radiator to possible go up as well shortly after this, the stock radiator doesn't last too long at times dealing with all that heat, they are notorious for cracking at the top section where they are just plastic. And when it does, most aftermarket radiators don't have a tranny cooler built into them like our stock ones do, but that wont be an issue cause you'll already have an aftermarket tranny cooler Wouldn't hurt to get a tranny temp gauge too while you're at it...

I'm making 288whp & 255wtq @ 19psi on 93 oct gas, I have no doubt you could make 330'swhp with an 18g plus meth, depending how high you're willing to run the psi.

Link to my dyno sheet - http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2520223
Thanks man great information I will prob only run between 20psi-24psi I don't want to break anything this soon ha. But I did call IT the other day for them to recommend a tranny cooler and he said get the biggest one that will fit.
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Old 04-24-2014, 06:57 PM   #29
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i am sticking with the blouch td05 18g xt-r
I meant dont take his advice on not getting a tune right away, the VF48 and 16g are still great turbos.... but a 18g xt-r
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:56 PM   #30
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Thanks man great information I will prob only run between 20psi-24psi I don't want to break anything this soon ha. But I did call IT the other day for them to recommend a tranny cooler and he said get the biggest one that will fit.
Sure thing, biggest one I could fit was the B&M 70268 Tranny Cooler, runs plenty cold by itself, as I'm running an aftermarket radiator. Although tranny takes a good bit longer to reach temp, especially in winter, ha.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:40 AM   #31
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Sure thing, biggest one I could fit was the B&M 70268 Tranny Cooler, runs plenty cold by itself, as I'm running an aftermarket radiator. Although tranny takes a good bit longer to reach temp, especially in winter, ha.
Ever have a prob with it not getting to operating temp that fast?
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Old 04-26-2014, 02:31 AM   #32
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Nothing that is concerning, it's just the stock radiator usually helps heat up the tranny fluid as well, since the stock tranny cooler is inside of it. Since I'm running an aftermarket radiator, my tranny just has to heat up itself, in addition to the extra cooling it gets from it's own aftermarket cooler. No biggie, just don't hit it hard until I'm within range, no negatives really. Just helps to have a temp gauge for that reason
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:10 AM   #33
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Nothing that is concerning, it's just the stock radiator usually helps heat up the tranny fluid as well, since the stock tranny cooler is inside of it. Since I'm running an aftermarket radiator, my tranny just has to heat up itself, in addition to the extra cooling it gets from it's own aftermarket cooler. No biggie, just don't hit it hard until I'm within range, no negatives really. Just helps to have a temp gauge for that reason
What brand of tranny temp gauge did u use and anything special to install a tranny gauge?
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:52 AM   #34
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and what is everyones take on the 7cm or 8cm 18g on the 4eat?
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Old 04-26-2014, 04:57 PM   #35
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Not sure about the 4eat but I run a 7cm on my ej205 to keep spool, I would guess I give up about 10 to 15 wtq when boost hits and maybe 10 hp up top. I guess the real question is if you ever plan on a larger motor down the road, then I would get a 8 cm for sure. I dont taper boost at all at 20 psi.
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Old 04-26-2014, 10:56 PM   #36
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I bought a STRI oil temp gauge. Lil pricey but still cheaper then Defis. Usually I'm falling within 140-160F, although I haven't had the gauge hooked up to see what it runs in the hot weather yet. Gauge goes from like 140-300 I think, may be alil on the high side for tranny oil but it work, think its more for engine oil.

And honestly don't even know if my 16g has a 7cm or 8cm, ha.
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Old 04-28-2014, 12:45 PM   #37
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Shift kit is basically the valve body modded. You will NOT be able to get 350WHP on a 4eat 2.0 with an 18G. Unless that dyno is dialing in crazy high numbers. Depending on what you want to accomplish with your car, you will have to do more research and mods. I would say at most realistically, with an 18g ewg setup, you'll be close to 270WHP and about 300lbs of torque on pump gas. If you tune for E85 you'll get a bit more.

Good Luck.
Your gonna always be lower on toque than hp on your dyno numbers bud on the 2.0. With an 18G XTR and supporting mods (750cc injectors, downpipe, uppipe, catback, fuel pump and intercooler sti or better) he'll make 300 on the mustang dyno. My guess would be 300 whp and 280 torque give or take 10 on 93 octane. This is very close to the setup I'm running now and I just got my car tuned and dyno 3 weeks ago.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:43 AM   #38
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Sure thing, biggest one I could fit was the B&M 70268 Tranny Cooler, runs plenty cold by itself, as I'm running an aftermarket radiator. Although tranny takes a good bit longer to reach temp, especially in winter, ha.
did you mount your tranny cooler between the grill and radiator? Was their any fitment issues with the 70268 tranny cooler? i have an 05 WRX fit ment should be the same on my car as yours i believe.
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:54 AM   #39
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Just bought my blouch 18g xt with welded wastegate by blouch
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did you mount your tranny cooler between the grill and radiator? Was their any fitment issues with the 70268 tranny cooler? i have an 05 WRX fit ment should be the same on my car as yours i believe.
No fitment issue at all, I didn't do it between the A/C condenser and the radiator though because I didn't like it rubbing between the two. I mounted it sideways, right infront on the driver's side so it's real close to the return lines. It was too big to fit up or down so sideways it was, no biggie. I just made sure to have the hot side on the top to help it flow easier. Prolly doesn't really make a difference though. The cooler came with heavy duty zip ties too plus mounting brackets, so you have plenty of options for ways to mount it.
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I just finished my setup and it is basically the same as yours with the 16g xt rather then the 18. It will be pro tuned and dyno ran in june. While I wait I will be working on my ej207 build, cant wait for that
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:59 AM   #42
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Got all my parts in going the 19th of this month to get everything installed and tuned. I will post up dyno sheet once it's all completed.
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OK guys all parts installed and tuned and here is the dyno sheet I put down 285whp/265wtq on a mustang dyno with the 13% correction it's 322whp/299wtq I'm pretty happy with the results.
Low numbers are my stock dyno numbers from a year ago.

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Old 06-06-2014, 11:07 PM   #44
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Looks good. What fuel are you tuned on?
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Looks good. What fuel are you tuned on?
93 fuel
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Old 06-07-2014, 03:20 AM   #46
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Very nice, yeah those numbers are pretty much what I was thinking you'd land and no doubt meth would take you that much farther. What PSI is this tuned at? You literally nearly doubled your hp & tq so I'm sure this car feels massively different to you, ha. Should be fun!

Btw, you may want to just remove the receipt picture with your personal billing info and such. Just an idea, being how some people are on here at times


Also, you notice a big difference with the IPT shift kit on the valve body? Some tend to more then others, just curious on your thoughts on it....
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Very nice, yeah those numbers are pretty much what I was thinking you'd land and no doubt meth would take you that much farther. What PSI is this tuned at? You literally nearly doubled your hp & tq so I'm sure this car feels massively different to you, ha. Should be fun!

Btw, you may want to just remove the receipt picture with your personal billing info and such. Just an idea, being how some people are on here at times

Also, you notice a big difference with the IPT shift kit on the valve body? Some tend to more then others, just curious on your thoughts on it....
Yes the IPT valve body is a big difference it shift so much smoother and quicker. My car feels like a totally different car with everything done to it.

It's turned to only 19psi I still have stock bottom end so he didn't want to push it to hard

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Old 06-15-2014, 02:21 PM   #48
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Video of what the ewg sounds like
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:52 PM   #49
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^^ Music to my ears! Nice!
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Yeah that sounds sick! Little more forceful then my 16g ewg setup
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