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Old 06-15-2014, 01:50 PM   #26
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^^ Not neccessarily... I dont think he's cut the fender or anything in the picture. You could run the larger wheel/tire combo, just couldnt have the car slammed as to allow enough suspension travel so the tire didnt contact the uncut fender... stock height or a small drop would probably allow this...
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:05 AM   #27
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I'd make them much bigger, and flow in to the existing panels. Those look like generic flares that were fitted. where something that fits like this looks custom and super clean.

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Old 06-16-2014, 01:14 AM   #28
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^^ Not neccessarily... I dont think he's cut the fender or anything in the picture. You could run the larger wheel/tire combo, just couldnt have the car slammed as to allow enough suspension travel so the tire didnt contact the uncut fender... stock height or a small drop would probably allow this...
Cool! you have restored my faith in these. I don't want If he didn't cut the fenders thats awesome cause i love the way the tire and wheel look with the flares in the photos above.

If nothing else I would buy that set off him if he changed them to require cutting.
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Old 06-16-2014, 05:50 PM   #29
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Cool! you have restored my faith in these. I don't want If he didn't cut the fenders thats awesome cause i love the way the tire and wheel look with the flares in the photos above. If nothing else I would buy that set off him if he changed them to require cutting.
If you aren't cutting fenders there really is not point to flares.
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:23 PM   #30
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If you aren't cutting fenders there really is not point to flares.
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:24 PM   #31
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If you aren't cutting fenders there really is not point to flares.
Make your case?
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Old 06-16-2014, 06:51 PM   #32
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If you aren't cutting fenders there really is not point to flares.
Maybe the person wants to do it purely for cosmetic reasons? Having the car running on a wider tire and a little flared look without having to be slammed to the ground. I understand his reasoning for not wanting to cut up his car for the sake of flares, I highly doubt that I would make the commitment to cutting my quarters and fenders.
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The point of flares is to be able to run a wider wheel/tire set up. The only way it's possible to achieve that is a harshly stiff coilover suspension set to about stock height or lifted.

Unless your in to this sorta thing...
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Old 06-16-2014, 09:20 PM   #34
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The point of flares is to be able to run a wider wheel/tire set up. The only way it's possible to achieve that is a harshly stiff coilover suspension set to about stock height or lifted. Unless your in to this sorta thing...
And he would be able to run a wider wheel/tire set up without cutting up his car. My only point is that it's up to each person as to what they want to accomplish with their car.
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That picture said it all. Ha ha
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And he would be able to run a wider wheel/tire set up without cutting up his car. My only point is that it's up to each person as to what they want to accomplish with their car.
A wide wheel set up will smash the hell out of the OEM fenders if they aren't trimmed.
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And he would be able to run a wider wheel/tire set up without cutting up his car. My only point is that it's up to each person as to what they want to accomplish with their car.
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The only way it's possible to achieve that is a harshly stiff coilover suspension set to about stock height or lifted. Unless your in to this sorta thing...
Exactly this. The tire will smash into an uncut fender.

That's exactly the entire point of flares, so you can create more tire clearance by cutting the fenders.

If you aren't using them for their intended purpose why even bother running them. It's not like you'll be able to throw on a set of 18x10 with 285's and not have issues.
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Exactly this. The tire will smash into an uncut fender.

That's exactly the entire point of flares, so you can create more tire clearance by cutting the fenders.

If you aren't using them for their intended purpose why even bother running them. It's not like you'll be able to throw on a set of 18x10 with 285's and not have issues.
So this actually answers my original question better than I think you intended. I figured there might be issues with rubbing If I didn't cut.

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Exactly this. The tire will smash into an uncut fender. That's exactly the entire point of flares, so you can create more tire clearance by cutting the fenders. If you aren't using them for their intended purpose why even bother running them. It's not like you'll be able to throw on a set of 18x10 with 285's and not have issues.
If he's not lowered then I don't see why he couldn't run a setup like this... People run mexiflush/poke setups all the time... He'd merely be running a poke setup and adding the flares... If people can run 18x9.5 with a 265 (very large for our bodies) without contacting the fender, the 18x10 should be the same just with some more poke...
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If he's not lowered then I don't see why he couldn't run a setup like this... People run mexiflush/poke setups all the time... He'd merely be running a poke setup and adding the flares... If people can run 18x9.5 with a 265 (very large for our bodies) without contacting the fender, the 18x10 should be the same just with some more poke...
Yeah, that's not how it works.
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Elaborate please?? I don't see the difference between a wheel with a tire that is slightly poking and not making contact vs a wheel with more poke



Why couldn't you put flares on something like this without issues...

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Elaborate please?? I don't see the difference between a wheel with a tire that is slightly poking and not making contact vs a wheel with more poke
You need to research wheel/tire fitments and how suspension systems work. I don't need to sit here and spoon feed you.

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Yes, wide fitments will fit different chassis' up to a *point*. Past that point, you need to do fender mods, I think we can all agree on that, right? You get to a point where you can no longer modify the fenders out of the way and you need to physically cut them.

So for instance - lets take a GR for example.

GR's on stock suspension and un-modified fenders can fit an 18x9.5 +40 with a 265. Anything past that or if the car is lowered (even on this same fitment....)- and they start to rub. The more aggressive the setup the more work needs to be done. Flares eliminate the need for excessive rolling and pulling and the need to run retarded camber to fit a given setup.

You guys seriously need to read the karlton thread. you think you can fit those setups on stock fenders at stock height? LOL.

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Why couldn't you put flares on something like this without issues...

This setup makes contact with the fenders, there is no argument. The idea behind flares would be to cut the fenders, to run this identical setup, without the tires making contact with the fenders.

more poke = more (or more chance of) contact. any way you slice it.
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:14 PM   #43
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Elaborate please?? I don't see the difference between a wheel with a tire that is slightly poking and not making contact vs a wheel with more poke



Why couldn't you put flares on something like this without issues...

Essentially, slapping flares over uncut fenders with a wider setup WILL make contact with the fender. If you're gonna run fender flares on a skinny rim, it'll look horrible.. which is why most people who opt for flares, do it for a wider setup. Wider setup = no fitment unless fender work is done.
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^^ Yes, I know fender work needs to be done, I run a wide setup and had to do fender work on mine... I was just saying that it seems if a person can run a Mexiflush setup like above and not have too much of an issue, slapping a fender flare on the car shouldnt change that... Not saying itd look great or be the most functional, just saying it could possibly work...

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You guys seriously need to read the karlton thread. you think you can fit those setups on stock fenders at stock height? LOL.
Well aware of wheel/tire fitment and suspension systems, (I currently run 18x9.5 +40s, coils, rolled/slight pull fenders etc) but the goal was always to fit them inside the fenders not out... My mexiflush knowledge is rather slacking... Just seeing as how people run these types of setups (and seem to do so without damaging their fenders/tires) I assumed someone could run a similar setup and then just mold the flares on, to give it a more "flush look"... Not neccesarily a super agressive meaty tire setup but "a wider than normal" setup... I have no intention of doing these without cutting, just thinking out loud for those who dont want to cut... Either way, thanks for your input
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^^ Yes, I know fender work needs to be done, I run a wide setup and had to do fender work on mine... I was just saying that it seems if a person can run a Mexiflush setup like above and not have too much of an issue, slapping a fender flare on the car shouldnt change that... Not saying itd look great or be the most functional, just saying it could possibly work...



Well aware of wheel/tire fitment and suspension systems, (I currently run 18x9.5 +40s, coils, rolled/slight pull fenders etc) but the goal was always to fit them inside the fenders not out... My mexiflush knowledge is rather slacking... Just seeing as how people run these types of setups (and seem to do so without damaging their fenders/tires) I assumed someone could run a similar setup and then just mold the flares on, to give it a more "flush look"... Not neccesarily a super agressive meaty tire setup but "a wider than normal" setup... I have no intention of doing these without cutting, just thinking out loud for those who dont want to cut... Either way, thanks for your input
Most coilovers have a spring rate of 8/12k plus or minus. I have friends with cars on static suspension lower than most bagged cars and they run a spring rate of 20k or more.

That's the only way I can see you running a mexi-flush set up under the flares without banging the stock fenders.
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I haven't looked at this thread in a long time. If the guy didn't finish the design yet see if he would make multi piece flares so the bumper can be removed easily and people can choose whether they want it to end half way down the bumper or at the bottom.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:22 PM   #47
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They look perfect!
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any more progress on these? my 18x9.5's have arrived and i want to cram 265 width tires on without completely destroying the fenders, these are a must have
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Hmmm was really hoping to see fenders that allow us to run wide set ups like the rocket bunny kits...hopefully someone will be willing to cut their fenders up and really go for some real custom work! Slightly disappointed with these flares they look very generic
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Hmmm was really hoping to see fenders that allow us to run wide set ups like the rocket bunny kits...hopefully someone will be willing to cut their fenders up and really go for some real custom work! Slightly disappointed with these flares they look very generic
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