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Old 05-20-2014, 10:23 AM   #1
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Dynamometer! Roll it around in your mouth. Dynamo-meter. Dy-nuh-mom-et-er. Dyno, bro! Now add a Camaro Z/28. No, we’re not talking about the one with the 302—it’s the one with the slash in the alphanumeric and the LS7 V-8, one of the last monster engines to suck air without the assistance of forced induction. A 7.0-liter beast, the LS7 is one of the finest engines made today, and if you’ve ever driven a C6 Corvette Z06, you know exactly what we’re talking about. If you’re lucky enough to get your hands on a Z/28, well, then you’re in the same league as us—and the guys at Redline Motorsports, who just happened to strap their car onto the dyno and film it for not-so-lucky folks’ pleasure.

The dyno results, according to Redline’s machine? The Z/28 puts out 420 lb-ft of torque and 455 horsepower—at the wheels. If one assumes a 12–18 percent loss due to drivetrain components, that roughs out somewhere in the neighborhood of 520–545 ponies at the crank. Of course, this is one car on one particular dyno; there can and will be variances in measurement from one machine to the next. Still, GM’s advertised power rating for the Z/28 is a “mere” 505 horsepower. Yes, James Watt, the horsepower wars you begat still rage on, only now they are fueled by YouTube. Watch the dyno pull below:
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:18 AM   #2
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lovely engine I wish it would live on in some other car though
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Old 05-20-2014, 11:35 AM   #3
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Is there any way to get some steering feel in a GM car? I remember the RX7 LS-swap guys would change the steering pump for a smaller one and it mildly improved. The vette is a great platform, and the trick suspension on this Z28 is also sweet, but all of the vettes feel over-assisted and sloppy compared to a GT3 or a N/A M-car. I just drove the C7 and it was the same...
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:22 PM   #4
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^^^^
Electric power steering = no more steering pumps, and a completely different sense of steering feel. It also isn't helping that the track-inspired Camaros have monster width tires up front (can't make that much weight dance the way it does without paying the piper somehow).

Some systems do a better job than others at emulating the 'feel' of the old hydraulic systems, but the bottom line is that moving forward we as drivers are going to have to get used to the fact that these system are fundamentally different, and are going to feel different as a result.

That isn't to say there won't be 'good' e-steering that has more road feel, and 'bad' e-steering that has little/none. Just that what is eventually defined as "good' for an electric system may not ultimately be the same as what was 'good' with hydraulic ones.

There are also the advantages of improved efficiency, and (theoretically) very user-adjustable steering assist levels.
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Old 05-20-2014, 12:26 PM   #5
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There are existing good electric steering systems, I loved mine in my old mini. Decent feedback, and it was pretty neat that the steering ratio was adjustable with the click of a button.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:02 PM   #6
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I didn't even realize the C7 was electric steering... feel was so bad on the C6 it might as well have been electric as well. Looking forward to trying the new GT3 steering - have an RS on order - drove the C2S and the car felt a little bigger and a little more "digital" than the "analog" 997.2 GT3RS, but the steering itself didn't strike me as being all that different. I love the idea of the new Z06, especially since it's still offered in a manual, but not after driving the C7.
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:34 AM   #7
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Old 06-12-2014, 09:05 AM   #8
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^^First Merika made vehicle I'd buy, if I could afford it.
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:36 AM   #9
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I can't stand dyno videos with music.
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Old 06-13-2014, 07:43 PM   #10
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https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motora...134054747.html

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Every Chevrolet Camaro built since General Motors relaunched the pony car in 2010 – some 511,508 cars worldwide — was recalled today after GM discovered drivers could accidentally turn the car off with their knees, the same problem at the heart of the deadly Chevy Cobalt recall.




GM says it's aware of only three crashes with four minor injuries linked to the problem, that the ignition switches in the Camaro aren't to blame and that the recall (along with three other minor recalls also announced today) demonstrate how it's now trying to jump on safety problems as soon as they emerge. But the Camaro recall touches the core Chevy fan base in a way that other recalls haven't.
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Old 06-13-2014, 08:10 PM   #11
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^^First Merika made vehicle I'd buy, if I could afford it.
Anyone who buys a Z/28 (MSRP $73,700) over a 1LT Z51 Corvette (MSRP $57,995) is wack.
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:54 AM   #12
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What is the draw? Why would anyone buy the z/28 over the 1lt z51? Serious question.
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:22 PM   #13
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^ Someone that wants a Camaro and more room
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Old 06-14-2014, 05:36 PM   #14
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What is the draw? Why would anyone buy the z/28 over the 1lt z51? Serious question.
Camaro fans.
Resale value.
Performance.

They're building so few of them that one of these in pristine condition could be worth something somewhere down the road. The 'vette, like every other regular 'vette, will be relatively worthless in a decade.
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Old 06-14-2014, 07:38 PM   #15
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Z/28 is the cheapest way to get a honest to god set of carbon ceramics from the factory, right?
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:32 AM   #16
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Do you mean Canadian made?
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:59 AM   #17
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Do you mean Canadian made?

canada IS in north AMERICA.....no?

'america' isnt JUST the USA.....or maybe you never thought enough about it?
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:43 AM   #18
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canada IS in north AMERICA.....no?

'america' isnt JUST the USA.....or maybe you never thought enough about it?
Okay, Vespucci. Ask any Canadian how they like being an "American" and get back to us.

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^^ haha, very true Spenk

Mexico is in North America as well
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Old 06-15-2014, 01:25 PM   #20
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Okay, Vespucci. Ask any Canadian how they like being an "American" and get back to us.


****...they hate us as much as the rest of the world hates us...who ya think ya kidding here
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Old 06-21-2014, 05:06 PM   #21
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Then I'm wack as ****!!!!
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Z/28 is the cheapest way to get a honest to god set of carbon ceramics from the factory, right?
Looks like an M3 sedan will get you there slightly cheaper sticker for sticker when optioned with them. In reality, it'll probably be significantly cheaper as I don't see these Z28s being sold anywhere near sticker.
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Old 06-22-2014, 12:39 AM   #23
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:58 PM   #24
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I like the new z28, but my wife wanted a car, so i got her one of them z51 stingray vettes instead. gotta wait for my fun toy for myself.
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