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Old 05-29-2014, 12:40 PM   #26
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This is due to the fact that when you need them is generally in actual "fog" or in snow where the color of the obstruction is white already so a total amount of white tends to be blinding to the eyes?

I remember as a young driver someone telling me why fog lamps and high beams should not be used together (besides that they would blind an oncoming driver) but in all my years of messing with bikes/cars I have not heard the actual scientific reasoning to have less light in adverse conditions.
Amber/yellow lighting is better in rain, snow, and fog because it increases contrast and penetrates the particles better. Yellower light is easier for the human visual visual system to process than whiter/bluer light. It contributes to higher visual acuity than white light. Yellow light also has less back reflection than whiter light so it doesn't blind you as much in heavy fog, snow, or rain.

In fact, if you wanted the best lighting color for these extreme conditions, you'd actually want a red light since it performs even better than yellow light. But I'd imagine it isn't legal to have red front facing fog lights.

Another real world use that may help this make sense is when snowboarders/skiers use yellow goggle lenses in low light conditions. It helps us see the detail in the snow conditions much better than a clear lens or a darker tinted lens. And believe me when I say that the difference it makes is very significant.

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Since everyone has different goals, there are solutions for everyone. Whether you need it to be more of a driving light or fog light, there's ways to configure the products to get what you desire.

For the OLM bixenon projectors you can choose a lower Kelvin rating like 3000K. The replacement glass housings can have Lumin-X protective film placed on it. It serves a dual roll. One is to protect against chipping. The other is to style the light (gunmetal tint) or to aide in fog and foul weather (yellow tint).
To each their own I suppose. Like you said, everyone has their own goals. But putting HIDs in your fogs, even with yellow Lamin-X over it, is simply not a good idea. It's essentially just paying money to decrease fog light performance in adverse conditions. With 3000k bulbs and yellow Lamin-X, you might as well just throw the same yellow Lamin-X on your stock fogs and call it a day. You'll have essentially the same look with better performance, less glare, and much less money spent.

Don't get me wrong. I'm loving the work you guys are doing with the headlights. If I had a '15 there is no doubt I would do that C-Light mod. But the HID fogs make me cringe.
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:41 PM   #27
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Red... Yes illegal for this use, but as a former Servicemember, I do like red light. It has a lot of advantages at night.

I would not use 3000K bulbs on top of yellow Lumin-X. Overkill. Just going to be filtering out a lot of usable light.

19w halogen stock stock vs 55w halogen (not HID) w/ yellow Lamin-X...



I don't think I have a shot at night, but the intensity is greater with the Lamin-X and the 55w bulb.

The OLM Bixenon casing does not have options for Lamin-X. The curvature of the surface is too much to place protective film over it. Just control the light color with various bulbs.



I'll try to get more pictures of this in the dark. So much yellow light!

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I'm probably more obsessed with lights than anyone else here @ SubiSpeed...



You can't see it, but this vehicle is completely beat up from offroading all over the US and during day / night.

That's 12 forward facing lights.

4x 9" HID Lights
2x LED Headlights (same company product used in HMMWV and other Military vehicles... 12v version)
2x PIAA Fog and Foul Weather Fog Lamps
2x PIAA Fog and Foul Weather Driving Lamps
2x PIAA Reverse lights mounted for the obliques


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I'll see if we can get around to some of the other videos like this, installing a Fumoto Oil drain plug, adjusting headlights, etc.
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:27 PM   #28
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19w halogen stock stock vs 55w halogen (not HID) w/ yellow Lamin-X...



I don't think I have a shot at night, but the intensity is greater with the Lamin-X and the 55w bulb.
Wow! I'll admit that the glass lens with the 55w bulb looks great. I'd have to revert my thinking on a glass lens being a bad idea if it really is as strong as you say it is.


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I'll try to get more pictures of this in the dark. So much yellow light!
Please do! I'll be curious to see the nighttime visibility between that and the stock output.
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:10 PM   #29
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Yo's back again to show you guys how to get rid of those halogen DRLs.....

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http://youtu.be/-ISnOjtCBYI





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Old 05-29-2014, 03:53 PM   #30
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What's the output on those Highbeam/DRL replacements?
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Old 05-29-2014, 04:46 PM   #31
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Sooo thanks to this thread i Just dropped $250 on parts from SubiSpeed.com and I don't even have my car yet. I still have another 6 weeks. This will just add to the mountain of parts piling in my garage. Thanks
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Old 05-29-2014, 05:14 PM   #32
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Sooo thanks to this thread i Just dropped $250 on parts from SubiSpeed.com and I don't even have my car yet. I still have another 6 weeks. This will just add to the mountain of parts piling in my garage. Thanks
You're going to have fun with this car...

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What's the output on those Highbeam/DRL replacements?
~2000 lumens.

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Hmm what's this switch?
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Old 05-30-2014, 10:06 AM   #33
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Hey Subi Speed. I recently tried to upgrade my OEM fogs to a basic 35W HID kit. I got a lot of flame (people concerned about glare and heating/melting potential) for it in my thread (2015 WRX HID Fog Light Issue).

I like the projector fogs for a few reasons: they look awesome, better light output, and no glare. However, I've got a few quick questions. What is different about this HID kit that it won't blow my 10A fog light fuse and that they'll turn on and off reliably? Is there any potential for heat damage? Also, have you got any pics of the output from the fog projectors w/ 3000K bulbs in them?

Lastly, I just want to say that that DRL LED upgrade looks sick

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Old 05-30-2014, 10:23 AM   #34
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Hey Subi Speed. I want to order the DRL bulbs, on the website the price is that for per bulb or for a pair of bulbs? I'm guessing it per bulb but just wanted to be sure before i place the order and get 4 bulbs instead lol. Thanks

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Old 05-30-2014, 10:46 AM   #35
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So I'm hoping that is a DRL off switch
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Old 05-30-2014, 10:57 AM   #36
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Hey Subi Speed. I recently tried to upgrade my OEM fogs to a basic 35W HID kit. I got a lot of flame (people concerned about flare and heating/melting potential) for it in my thread (2015 WRX HID Fog Light Issue).

I like the projector fogs for a few reasons: they look awesome, better light output, and no glare. However, I've got a few quick questions. What is different about this HID kit that it won't blow my 10A fog light fuse and that they'll turn on and off reliably? Is there any potential for heat damage? Also, have you got any pics of the output from the fog projectors w/ 3000K bulbs in them?

Lastly, I just want to say that that DRL LED upgrade looks sick
Thanks for the link. I think I chimed in once on that thread and just posted up another response.

If the vehicle is on, they'll both fire up every single time. Our vehicle has 4 ballasts installed on it. This is a shop vehicle, but for one reason or another someone takes it hope every day. Whether it be to test a new tune or test some lighting products out, it's driven on a daily basis. Over that time, we've paid attention to all of the modifications that have been done to make sure there are no issues. The projectors carry a 1 year warranty and are solid. Mostly glass and metal so you won't have heat issues with the projector or nearby plastic components (bezel and bumper).

Let me see if I can get a shot of the 3000K. I'l come back and post that up ASAP.

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Hey Subi Speed. I want to order the DRL bulbs, on the website the price is that for per bulb or for a pair of bulbs? I'm guessing it per bulb but just wanted to be sure before i place the order and get 4 bulbs instead lol. Thanks
It's definitely for a pair!
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:16 AM   #37
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It's definitely for a pair!
Oh sweet! Ordered!!! I don't even have my car yet! lol.
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:18 AM   #38
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So I'm hoping that is a DRL off switch
It's a fog light switch I think
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:20 AM   #39
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Oh sweet! Ordered!!! I don't even have my car yet! lol.
Not sure if you're the same person, but someone has told me this already today. When I got my FR-S from the next city over, I didn't even want to drive it home without modifying the lights.

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Depending on your monitor, this picture might be a little off. The 6000K should appear slightly blue.




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RE: Switch

Yeah it was a fog light setup for base models. I'm guessing that will be available in the next week to week and a half.

You could make a switch for the DRLs.... Just snip, solder, and heat shrink a wire and switch in between on the DRL resistor wires.

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Old 05-30-2014, 11:35 AM   #40
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Not sure if you're the same person, but someone has told me this already today. When I got my FR-S from the next city over, I didn't even want to drive it home without modifying the lights.
Lol I don't blame you! I was very surprised when I found out none of the US wrx's come with standard led/hid lights. Oh and any idea on the life expectancy of these LED's? Just curious.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:14 PM   #41
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30000 hours! I don't know who sat around for that long, but the estimate is probably based on the LED chip manufacturer and not the people that put the entire lamp together.
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:17 PM   #42
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Lol thanks!
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Old 05-30-2014, 02:51 PM   #43
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Any pictures of the LED DRL/high beam with the high beam on, not just the DRL?
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:07 PM   #44
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makes the the base and premium models worlds better.

what HID kit are u guys using for the headlights? or did you guys just upgrade the bulbs?
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Old 05-30-2014, 03:07 PM   #45
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Loving this product roll-out. I will eventually pick up the DRL's, low-beams, and probably the fog lights too, once I get some more $$
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Old 05-30-2014, 04:08 PM   #46
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Any pictures of the LED DRL/high beam with the high beam on, not just the DRL?
In the video the low beams were unplugged. I'll see if there's any other media available.

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makes the the base and premium models worlds better.

what HID kit are u guys using for the headlights? or did you guys just upgrade the bulbs?
We're using the kit that's on our site. It's under the company OLM as well.
For those looking to go the way of a retrofit I've talked with TRS and they seem pretty pleased with the Morimoto Mini D2S 3.0. They said it only requires a little drilling. How many people are interested in doing full retrofits? I would pick up their products if there was enough interest.

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Loving this product roll-out. I will eventually pick up the DRL's, low-beams, and probably the fog lights too, once I get some more $$
I just work here... I'm going to pick up more as well when payday comes!
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Old 05-30-2014, 04:34 PM   #47
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Hey subi speed I sent you guys a pm.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:24 PM   #48
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HID retrofit!!! Yes, me me....uhh ugh....ME!! Also the C LED mod for a more uniformed look and to have them turn into the DRL's along with your DRL mod already. Overkill...is just right lol
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:30 PM   #49
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trying to understand those DRL replacement bulbs..since ( i think) the factory DRL bulb functions as both the DRL and high beam, do these replacement bulbs have '2 levels' of brightness as well or is the DRL brightness the same as the high beam essentially meaning the high beam doesnt exist anymore? thanks.
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:17 PM   #50
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How many people are interested in doing full retrofits? I would pick up their products if there was enough interest.
I would be interested in a true retrofit, painted inside to black and hopefully a stronger C-light outline.
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