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Old 08-10-2014, 03:35 AM   #1
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I just picked up an 05 STI so I figured it was time to make an account on here.
I have a lot of stuff planned for the car but this will probably be a relatively slow build since I am going to be in school as well.
I bought the car completely stock other than an SPT intake, catback exhaust, and Tein lowering springs. It has 90,000 miles and the intake, exhaust, and lowering springs have only been on for 12,000 miles.
I think the first things that is going to happen is a catless downpipe and a Cobb V3.
I already have some BBS RS' that I am refinishing and putting on, and I plan on doing either custom Stance coil overs with swift springs, or possibly even bags for the convenience (I know most of you don't approve of that. ). But we'll see when that time comes.

Here's a couple pictures of it until I can get some better ones!

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Old 08-11-2014, 02:53 AM   #2
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So after owning the car for a total of three days, I got a cel already..
It's code P0021 (Camshaft Position - Timing Over Advanced. I got a print out of possible things it could be and it said check timing belt to make sure it's aligned properly, and a lot of different things relating to the oil. I am going to do an oil change tomorrow, but I checked online and found some threads and videos about the filter screen in the banjo bolts in the oil lines. I checked the one on the driver side and passenger side and the filters seem to have already been taken out. I haven't checked the one on the turbo yet but that will probably happen tomorrow. Anyone have any other ideas of possible things it could be? Or has anyone else had this happen? It's not throwing any other codes other than the P0021 code.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:39 AM   #3
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One thing you could try is to do a hard ECU reset by disconnecting your battery?

That could correct your issue if you previously had a tune from the last owner. Maybe that will let the ECU relearn your car. I know that even if an EM was unmarried to the vehicle, all stock settings should be at it's original state but you never know, there could be missing parameters, etc.
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:50 AM   #4
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I just picked up an 05 STI so I figured it was time to make an account on here.
I have a lot of stuff planned for the car but this will probably be a relatively slow build since I am going to be in school as well.
I bought the car completely stock other than an SPT intake, fatback exhaust, and Tein lowering springs. It has 90,000 miles and the intake, exhaust, and lowering springs have only been on for 12,000 miles.
I think the first things that is going to happen is a catless downpipe and a Cobb V3.
I already have some BBS RS' that I am refinishing and putting on, and I plan on doing either custom Stance coil overs with swift springs, or possibly even bags for the convenience (I know most of you don't approve of that. ). But we'll see when that time comes.

Here's a couple pictures of it until I can get some better ones!
Completely stock is a bit of a stretch.
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:59 AM   #5
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looks good man! super clean!!
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Old 08-11-2014, 07:15 PM   #6
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One thing you could try is to do a hard ECU reset by disconnecting your battery?

That could correct your issue if you previously had a tune from the last owner. Maybe that will let the ECU relearn your car. I know that even if an EM was unmarried to the vehicle, all stock settings should be at it's original state but you never know, there could be missing parameters, etc.
That's a good point. I'm going to try that. I need to do my emissions test pretty soon to get my plates, so do you have any idea what the drive cycle is for the codes to be ready is? I know on my buddies GTI it's 50 miles but I read somewhere that the 05 STi is around 100 miles?

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Completely stock is a bit of a stretch.
They're just minor bolt ons. Never had motor work, and never had heavier mods like bigger turbo, downpipe, no tune (from what I know) , not even a short shifter, or anything like that. I can deal with an intake, lowering springs, and a bolt on catback exhaust.

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looks good man! super clean!!
Thanks man! I really appreciate it!
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:37 PM   #7
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Super clean vehicle Nathan! Hope you enjoy every minute of it. Mind if I ask you a question for my poll research? How old were you when you puchased your first Subie? Also yeah a hard reset might help
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Old 08-12-2014, 01:54 AM   #8
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Super clean vehicle Nathan! Hope you enjoy every minute of it. Mind if I ask you a question for my poll research? How old were you when you puchased your first Subie? Also yeah a hard reset might help
This is my first one ever and I'm 20 years old! Yeah I gave it a shot earlier today and so far, after at least 50 miles of driving, the code hasn't been triggered again. So far so good! I appreciate all the help from everyone!
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:01 PM   #9
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Quick question, if anyone can answer, would bad oil check valves cause a low idle? The car idles at just a little below 750 RPM's with the AC off, and with the AC on it idles a little above 750 and sounds like a much healthier idle. It doesn't idle rough, just a little low.

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Old 08-12-2014, 10:00 PM   #10
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The drive should be a range of 50-100 miles, not sure exactly. Hope you get everything working okay. Don't know about the check valve but hopefully the other issues are solved.
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Old 08-12-2014, 11:10 PM   #11
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This is my first one ever and I'm 20 years old! Yeah I gave it a shot earlier today and so far, after at least 50 miles of driving, the code hasn't been triggered again. So far so good! I appreciate all the help from everyone!
Your first car ever or your first Subie sorry I wasn't clear enough haha
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Old 08-14-2014, 01:18 AM   #12
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Congrats. This is my favorite year Subie. I had an 04 and wish it was still in my garage...
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Old 08-14-2014, 01:30 AM   #13
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90k miles is timing belt time so you might as well get that taken care of pretty soon. have them check the water pump while they're in there. I'd also have them replace the AC and PS/alternator belts and idler pulley too.

My standard "new to me car" plan is
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Old 08-14-2014, 01:32 AM   #14
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congrats very clean
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Old 08-14-2014, 02:44 AM   #15
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Your first car ever or your first Subie sorry I wasn't clear enough haha
Ah. I got my first car at 17. It was technically my dads but he "gave" it to me so I guess it was considered mine.

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90k miles is timing belt time so you might as well get that taken care of pretty soon. have them check the water pump while they're in there. I'd also have them replace the AC and PS/alternator belts and idler pulley too.

My standard "new to me car" plan is
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new coolant
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check/replace gear box and diff oil
cabin air filter (if there's one in there you'll probably need to wear gloves to avoid getting the plague.)
Awesome. That is actually really helpful. I appreciate it. I will probably be doing all of that actually since I will already be in there. Probably doing the timing belt tensioner at the same time just to be safe.

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Thanks! I appreciate it! Needs some TLC in some spots but i'll take care of that over time.
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Old 08-15-2014, 04:11 AM   #16
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Got the oil change along with new filter done. Next is timing belt, idler pulleys, water pump, and both the AC and alternator belts, new front diff/transmission fluid, and new rear diff fluid and new seal (mine's leaking a little).

I washed, clay barred, polished, and waxed the entire car, and then polished and sealed the headlights.
It seems like the previous owner didn't have any idea how to restore headlights or how to detail a car. Headlights had tons of scratches all over them from a pitiful wet sanding job, and the paint felt like sandpaper and felt like it had been sitting outside for months without being washed or driven.

BUT, now the paint's as smooth as a baby's butt and the headlights look brand new.
I'm thinking within the next couple weeks I'm going to take the headlights apart and take the amber reflectors out of the headlights.

Also, pretty soon I'll try and get some more pictures of the car so you guys can see how it looks!

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Old 08-15-2014, 09:53 AM   #17
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I will probably be doing all of that actually since I will already be in there. Probably doing the timing belt tensioner at the same time just to be safe.
The timing-belt tensioner should not be given a second consideration as in "maybe".

I have a 2006 WRX with 77,XXX miles and performed a full timing-belt service, including water-pump, thermostat, and coolant, at 100 months -- it's 105,000 miles <or> 105 months, whichever comes first.

The tensioner piston was weeping as were three of the four idlers. Take a look at reply-post #686 for reference: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...794043&page=28

Buy all OEM parts through a dealer or go with an aftermarket kit such as from Gates Corporation, for example.

It is a nice car and at the same time, respectfully, consider a full timing-belt service before you spend more on other items. An engine is not an inexpensive item.
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Old 08-15-2014, 04:02 PM   #18
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The timing-belt tensioner should not be given a second consideration as in "maybe".

I have a 2006 WRX with 77,XXX miles and performed a full timing-belt service, including water-pump, thermostat, and coolant, at 100 months -- it's 105,000 miles <or> 105 months, whichever comes first.

The tensioner piston was weeping as were three of the four idlers. Take a look at reply-post #686 for reference: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...794043&page=28

Buy all OEM parts through a dealer or go with an aftermarket kit such as from Gates Corporation, for example.

It is a nice car and at the same time, respectfully, consider a full timing-belt service before you spend more on other items. An engine is not an inexpensive item.
That's why I said probably not maybe. Already planned on getting strictly OEM parts. Nothing else. I never buy aftermarket replacement parts unless they have a good reputation for being reliable.
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That's good. I too buy OEM in many cases as I had with regard to the full timing-belt service.

I also used "maybe" in place of your "probably" because most of the time, it means 'maybe' or effectively 'no', if you know what I mean.

Again, nice car and have fun with it.
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Old 08-16-2014, 03:37 AM   #20
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That's good. I too buy OEM in many cases as I had with regard to the full timing-belt service.

I also used "maybe" in place of your "probably" because most of the time, it means 'maybe' or effectively 'no', if you know what I mean.

Again, nice car and have fun with it.
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm paranoid with my cars so usually I try as hard as possible to buy the highest quality available, and the most reliable parts there are on the market. I'm still getting used to the fact that I am driving a car that is bound to make a ton of noises that don't seem normal, but are normal for this car.
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Old 08-18-2014, 04:26 PM   #21
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She looks super clean, congrats on the purchase! Has the CEL come back on yet? Good job with the clay, what'd you use on the headlights?
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Old 08-24-2014, 03:50 AM   #22
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She looks super clean, congrats on the purchase! Has the CEL come back on yet? Good job with the clay, what'd you use on the headlights?
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Thanks! For the headlights I used polishing compound and a light cutting buffing pad. They had already been sanded down and everything though. Also, no CEL again… BUT, that being said, I got pulled over today, and when I got pulled over, it was about 5 minutes after I had driven an hour and a half on the interstate to get to school, and when I pulled over, I turned the car off immediately (usually I let the car idle for a little bit to let it cool down but didn't really want to piss off the cop. ) And when I went to start the car again, it started and then stalled immediately even though the car was in neutral and the clutch was still pushed in. So I tried starting it again and the car kept cranking and wouldn't turn over for about 3-4 seconds when it usually starts up like a champ. Could this also be a symptom of bad oil control valves? I'm about to just drop the $100 and replace the driver side one that triggered the CEL just to have the piece of mind.
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Old 08-31-2014, 04:44 AM   #23
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Finally got to do my headlights this weekend. The orange reflectors were driving me nuts. It looks ten times better now. Also got a new Subaru emblem. Personally, I don't like the pink i badge at all so it had to go.
Also got my new timing belt, all new idler pulleys, and new water pump ordered as well so that's happening within the next week or so. I'm redoing the exhaust as well since I found out that it's just a muffler welded on to the factory exhaust, so i'm cutting it off at the ghetto welds and doing a custom cat back, doing my transmission fluid and rear diff fluid next weekend just to be safe, Im also looking for a Cobb V3 as well so if you know of a used one for a good price, let me know.

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Old 09-01-2014, 01:39 PM   #24
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HOW has nobody mentioned the fact that this car NEEDS a tune? I would get that taken care of ASAP. Most (all) aftermarket performance mods should require a tune. It sounds like the car was half-assed based on what you told us about the exhuast. Just my twocents. That would worry me with other aspects to the car. Sounds like you somewhat know your way around basic car stuff, so thats good. However, get that thing tuned immediately.
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Finally got to do my headlights this weekend. The orange reflectors were driving me nuts. It looks ten times better now. Also got a new Subaru emblem. Personally, I don't like the pink i badge at all so it had to go.


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Personally, I like the amber. The missing amber makes the headlight no longer stand out, but that's just my opinion. I however think that what you did with putting the original Subaru badge is very nice. I have nothing against the "i" badge but I do like the original badge better. Overall, your car's paint does look new and like you just bought it, very smooth indeed. Now you've inspired me to wash my car and clay bar it later on as well.

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