Popup messaging spam??

TimStevens · 10-28-2002, 08:20 PM

Has anyone received one of these? A popup message like you might have sent to freak out your friends on the LAN in college... only thing is I'm not in college and this came in over my cable modem! Any way to block these f'n things?

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b_tapper · 10-28-2002, 08:25 PM

Wish I knew how to...I get crap like that every so often too.

LateApex · 10-28-2002, 08:27 PM

yeah! I got my first one today... I'm wondering which of my IM program updates installed that little gem. I think Trillian was the only one I had running.

TimStevens · 10-28-2002, 08:32 PM

I had nothing running... my PC was just sitting there having booted up not too long before. I was sitting watching TV when it came up.

Could a firewall block these messages? Do they come in via a specific port that could be blocked?

-tim

BOP · 10-28-2002, 08:35 PM

this is pointless

Christoff · 10-28-2002, 08:35 PM

Try getting ad aware and running it, maybe its spyware? Get zonealarm, free and good should block all that if thats the case....

Monolith · 10-28-2002, 08:36 PM

For the love of god... buy a firewall. Especially if youre on a connection that stays on 24/7.

TimStevens · 10-28-2002, 08:37 PM

Yeah, it's standard windows functionality... just not sure how to block it

LateApex · 10-28-2002, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TimStevens

Could a firewall block these messages? Do they come in via a specific port that could be blocked?

-tim

Without a doubt, you could block the port they came in on(if you knew which one it was)... but would it hurt the functionality of other programs? Possibly.

I just clicked mine closed, now I'm curious where it came from. I had a browser open as well, but it was just sitting there all day displaying i-club.

TimStevens · 10-28-2002, 08:38 PM

I just ran Ad Aware yesterday, but I'm running it again just to appease you guys

And my Linksys router/firewall is OOC until I get a new AC Adapter... should be here any day now...

-tim

BOP · 10-28-2002, 08:39 PM

this is pointless

TimStevens · 10-28-2002, 08:40 PM

Just ran Adaware... nothing more malicious than some DoubleClick cookies...

And thanks for the helpful suggestion BOP!

-tim

Pakin · 10-28-2002, 08:41 PM

I have a popup killer

ninetalesnwf · 10-28-2002, 08:48 PM

ahh you got to love "net Send"

ColinL · 10-28-2002, 08:53 PM

if you have win2k or XP stop the messenger service.

right click on My Computer and choose Manage, assuming you have My Computer displayed on your desktop. find the Messenger service and stop it. Set the startup type to be disabled.

And yes, get a firewall or router ASAP. Exploits using server messaging block protocol can do ridiculous things to your machine, this is really nothing.

TimStevens · 10-28-2002, 08:55 PM

Thank you Colin!

Johnny Knoxville · 10-28-2002, 08:57 PM

how do you send those messages? when i was in college i would get those all the time, like "party at mikes...123 high street...etc."

BOFslime · 10-28-2002, 09:02 PM

http://www.wired.com/news/technology...,55795,00.html

See above for details.. I started getting calls about this (i work for an ISP) after the second one I went digging for new 'easy bake oven' programs for script kiddes.. *yawn*..

The messages are stoppable by a firewall (port 135 spicifically with this program)
Its APART of windowsNT (nt4 win2k winxp)
win9x/me are not effected.

you can also turn the feature off by going to:

control panel | Administrative Tools | services | Messenger (this is not msn msg) stop the service.. then disable it

-brian

ColinL · 10-28-2002, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BOFslime
The messages are stoppable by a firewall (port 135 spicifically with this program)

if you just have a simple router with firewall (like a Linksys), yes do not allow port 135.

if you have a real firewall, disable ALL udp and smb traffic. there is no need for any of it to come through. if you're trying to use some kind of web component that needs it (like uploading pics to an image host) find another way. imagestation offers many ways of uploading, for example.

ChosenWon · 10-28-2002, 10:10 PM

I just went to the website of the guy that made the software to do this crap ($600+

) and followed the instrctions on his site on disabling messenger through services. Not a peep since of course.

Here it is, found it:

Windows XP

Click Start->Control Panel
Click Performance and Maintenance
Click Administrative Tools
Double click Services
Scroll down and highlight "Messenger"
Right-click the highlighted line and choose Properties.
Click the STOP button.
Select Disable or Manual in the Startup Type scroll bar
Click OK

Peaty · 10-28-2002, 11:04 PM

I found this program called Ad-Ware works well too. It scans your memory and HD for Spy-ware:

http://www.lavasoft.de/

You can get it there for free. Get the updater too.

il96 · 10-29-2002, 12:36 AM

As far as fighting web browser popups and windows that are fullscreen so you can't close them, try using Mozilla
I've started using it a few months ago, an I like it a lot ! It has javascript options where you can disable scripts to open any window unless you click a link, resize windows, etc.

The browser also has a nice feature "Cookie Manager" that allows you to block cookies from websites.

Andrew · 11-01-2002, 05:34 AM

bumping cause this form of popup has major suck and others need to see this.

Jessie James · 11-01-2002, 01:35 PM

Geez, if you are NOT running a firewall you deserve to get popups. In this day and age, running an open system is just asking for trouble.

Ad-Aware will get rid of spyware installed by Kaaza, but will not stop that pop-up. Colin has the right answer.

Go get Norton Firewall or Tiny Personal Firewall ( www.tinysoftware.com ) and never worry about hackers again. If you are running Windows 2000 without a firewall it is trivial to connect to your computer and have complete access to all files. Our network admin here left his computer wide open and I got in during a security scan. I've also got into my neighbors computer. I am amazed no one else did before I had.

You can lose everything if someone decides to delete stuff. Go get it fixed! Be a good netizen!

FunkerVogt · 11-01-2002, 01:40 PM

If you don't run a firewall, but turn off certain services (server, messenger, computer browser, task scheduler) as well as stop sharing on your hard drives, IPC share, and asmin share are you at least somewhat safe?

10-28-2002, 08:20 PM	#1
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 02 WRX & 98 L 91 MR2 & 05 Speed Triple	Popup messaging spam?? Has anyone received one of these? A popup message like you might have sent to freak out your friends on the LAN in college... only thing is I'm not in college and this came in over my cable modem! Any way to block these f'n things? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

10-28-2002, 08:35 PM	#5
BOP Scooby Specialist Member#: 8681 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Memory Hole Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon dirty	this is pointless Last edited by BOP; 12-04-2002 at 03:27 PM.

10-28-2002, 08:39 PM	#11
BOP Scooby Specialist Member#: 8681 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Memory Hole Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon dirty	this is pointless Last edited by BOP; 12-04-2002 at 03:30 PM.

10-28-2002, 09:02 PM	#18
BOFslime Scooby Specialist Member#: 23845 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Orlando, FL \| from MI Vehicle: '04 White STi 93 SM '09 RAM 4x4 \| '03 ZX-6R	http://www.wired.com/news/technology...,55795,00.html See above for details.. I started getting calls about this (i work for an ISP) after the second one I went digging for new 'easy bake oven' programs for script kiddes.. yawn.. The messages are stoppable by a firewall (port 135 spicifically with this program) Its APART of windowsNT (nt4 win2k winxp) win9x/me are not effected. you can also turn the feature off by going to: control panel \| Administrative Tools \| services \| Messenger (this is not msn msg) stop the service.. then disable it -brian Last edited by BOFslime; 10-28-2002 at 09:09 PM.

10-29-2002, 12:36 AM	#22
il96 Gone... But not forgotten Member#: 13082 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia	As far as fighting web browser popups and windows that are fullscreen so you can't close them, try using Mozilla I've started using it a few months ago, an I like it a lot ! It has javascript options where you can disable scripts to open any window unless you click a link, resize windows, etc. The browser also has a nice feature "Cookie Manager" that allows you to block cookies from websites. Last edited by il96; 10-29-2002 at 12:45 AM.

10-28-2002, 08:25 PM	#2
b_tapper Scooby Guru Member#: 5291 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: pittsburgh,pa Vehicle: '08 Scion xB Nautical Blue Metallic	Wish I knew how to...I get crap like that every so often too.

10-28-2002, 08:27 PM	#3
LateApex Scooby Specialist Member#: 7593 Join Date: Jun 2001 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Rosamond, CA	yeah! I got my first one today... I'm wondering which of my IM program updates installed that little gem. I think Trillian was the only one I had running.

10-28-2002, 08:32 PM	#4
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 02 WRX & 98 L 91 MR2 & 05 Speed Triple	I had nothing running... my PC was just sitting there having booted up not too long before. I was sitting watching TV when it came up. Could a firewall block these messages? Do they come in via a specific port that could be blocked? -tim

10-28-2002, 08:35 PM	#6
Christoff Scooby Newbie Member#: 22758 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Orange County Vehicle: 2001 GSXR 750	Try getting ad aware and running it, maybe its spyware? Get zonealarm, free and good should block all that if thats the case....

10-28-2002, 08:36 PM	#7
Monolith Visiting NASIOC Timeout Member#: 24211 Join Date: Sep 2002 Vehicle: 2002 WRX Black	For the love of god... buy a firewall. Especially if youre on a connection that stays on 24/7.

10-28-2002, 08:37 PM	#8
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 02 WRX & 98 L 91 MR2 & 05 Speed Triple	Yeah, it's standard windows functionality... just not sure how to block it

10-28-2002, 08:38 PM	#10
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 02 WRX & 98 L 91 MR2 & 05 Speed Triple	I just ran Ad Aware yesterday, but I'm running it again just to appease you guys And my Linksys router/firewall is OOC until I get a new AC Adapter... should be here any day now... -tim

10-28-2002, 08:40 PM	#12
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 02 WRX & 98 L 91 MR2 & 05 Speed Triple	Just ran Adaware... nothing more malicious than some DoubleClick cookies... And thanks for the helpful suggestion BOP! -tim

10-28-2002, 08:41 PM	#13
Pakin Scooby Specialist Member#: 17315 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: International Location: Date Line Denies F-22s Vehicle: MY95 Impreza 207C Teabag Green	I have a popup killer

10-28-2002, 08:48 PM	#14
ninetalesnwf Scooby Newbie Member#: 3739 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Vehicle: 85 R30 skylineGT-T Red/black	ahh you got to love "net Send"

10-28-2002, 08:53 PM	#15
ColinL Scooby Guru Member#: 114 Join Date: Jul 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Wichita, KS and Whoring, OT Vehicle: '03 Evo, Rice White '01 Erion CBR 929	if you have win2k or XP stop the messenger service. right click on My Computer and choose Manage, assuming you have My Computer displayed on your desktop. find the Messenger service and stop it. Set the startup type to be disabled. And yes, get a firewall or router ASAP. Exploits using server messaging block protocol can do ridiculous things to your machine, this is really nothing.

10-28-2002, 08:55 PM	#16
TimStevens Scooby Specialist Member#: 4817 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Albanyish, NY Vehicle: 02 WRX & 98 L 91 MR2 & 05 Speed Triple	Thank you Colin!

10-28-2002, 08:57 PM	#17
Johnny Knoxville Scooby Newbie Member#: 18508 Join Date: May 2002 Chapter/Region: MWSOC	how do you send those messages? when i was in college i would get those all the time, like "party at mikes...123 high street...etc."

10-28-2002, 10:10 PM	#20
ChosenWon Scooby Specialist Member#: 2236 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door Vehicle: 2001 Impreza RS silver/rally dirt brown	I just went to the website of the guy that made the software to do this crap ($600+ ) and followed the instrctions on his site on disabling messenger through services. Not a peep since of course. Here it is, found it: Windows XP Click Start->Control Panel Click Performance and Maintenance Click Administrative Tools Double click Services Scroll down and highlight "Messenger" Right-click the highlighted line and choose Properties. Click the STOP button. Select Disable or Manual in the Startup Type scroll bar Click OK

10-28-2002, 11:04 PM	#21
Peaty Techno Sapien Moderator Member#: 449 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Lawrence, KS Vehicle: 04' Forester XT- MT Cobb - Stage 2+	I found this program called Ad-Ware works well too. It scans your memory and HD for Spy-ware: http://www.lavasoft.de/ You can get it there for free. Get the updater too.

11-01-2002, 05:34 AM	#23
Andrew Scooby Guru Member#: 1170 Join Date: Mar 2000 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: San Jose, CA Vehicle: 2005 STi White	bumping cause this form of popup has major suck and others need to see this.

11-01-2002, 01:35 PM	#24
Jessie James Scooby Specialist Member#: 2072 Join Date: Aug 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Sterling, VA	Geez, if you are NOT running a firewall you deserve to get popups. In this day and age, running an open system is just asking for trouble. Ad-Aware will get rid of spyware installed by Kaaza, but will not stop that pop-up. Colin has the right answer. Go get Norton Firewall or Tiny Personal Firewall ( www.tinysoftware.com ) and never worry about hackers again. If you are running Windows 2000 without a firewall it is trivial to connect to your computer and have complete access to all files. Our network admin here left his computer wide open and I got in during a security scan. I've also got into my neighbors computer. I am amazed no one else did before I had. You can lose everything if someone decides to delete stuff. Go get it fixed! Be a good netizen!

11-01-2002, 01:40 PM	#25
FunkerVogt Scooby Newbie Member#: 4585 Join Date: Mar 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Northern NJ Vehicle: 2003 Mazda 6s	If you don't run a firewall, but turn off certain services (server, messenger, computer browser, task scheduler) as well as stop sharing on your hard drives, IPC share, and asmin share are you at least somewhat safe?

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