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Old 10-29-2002, 09:09 PM   #1
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When do most people on this board take off their summer tires and put on snow tires? Do you wait for snow to come or do you switch at a particular temperature?
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:19 PM   #2
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I switch when the overnight temps get down to the 30's
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Old 10-29-2002, 09:39 PM   #3
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I usually did mine around thanksgiving or early december........the softer compounds on the snow tires.....if you run them when temps are higher 40-50 degrees they can wear down a lot faster.
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Old 10-29-2002, 10:09 PM   #4
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Same time as most, the day after a 3 inches of snow falls and you couldn't get out of your driveway on the Z-rated tires


But seriously, after Halloween to start and then it depends on the daily temps. If we get a straight 5 days of below 55 degree highs then I'll make the change, snow or not. If it snows and sticks I'll change over no matter what the temps the days prior and after. All it takes is one surprise snow shower and a slippery turn to ruin you day. Max performance tires dislike the cold (snow or not) as much as the winters dislike the heat.
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Old 10-29-2002, 11:02 PM   #5
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I just put mine on... the car was covered in some kind of white cold substance, so I figured now was as good a time as any.

Man those tires look tiny!


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Old 10-29-2002, 11:38 PM   #6
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I plan on using my original RE-92's as snow tires. We don't get a lot of snow in New York. I'm going to miss the summer tires. I'll probably wait until the beginning of December.
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Old 10-30-2002, 03:23 AM   #7
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I switch when snow or ice is forcast or still on the road. If we get a stretch of good weather I switch back to the summer tires (RE730's and now SZ-50EP's).

I live in central/western MD, and work close to DC. Typically, it may be snowing at my house, sleeting further south and east, and raining in Balto. and DC. The temps. swing above and below freezing, normal averages are highs in the low 40's and lows in the mid 20's.

Just during a typical commute I may go thru conditions that warrant chains, then Q-rated winter tires, then H-rated winter tires, and then summer tires. It is difficult to know what to run but when in doubt in the winter I put the Arctic Alpins on. The only problem is that while they handle very well for a Q-rated tire, they are terrible compared to the SZ-50EP's (obviously).

I know I may be considered a bit of a fanatic, but where I live I feel it makes sense to switch between the two depending on conditions. Yes, that may mean 6-8 tire swaps every season, but I like to have the best tire for the expected conditions. It only takes about 20 minutes to switch and it gives you a chance to inspect your brakes, suspension, CV joint boots, and rotate your tires.

If I lived somewhere colder and/or where the weather was more predictable, I would leave the AA's on for the season (whenever that might begin and end). I suppose I would wait until the first storm was forcast or the temps were predicted to stay at or below freezing. I mean, unless you are relying on a shop to do the swap, there's no point in putting the winter tires on too early.

Finally, I have been unable to determine how Q-rated tires compare with H-rated tires. All I have heard is that _in general_ H-rated winter tires are better for dry/wet handling and Q-rated winter tires are better in ice and snow. The question of course is _how much better_?? If it turns out that H-rated tires are a lot better handling and only a little worse as far as ice and snow traction then I would probably replace my AA's and leave the H-rated tires on all season.
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Old 10-30-2002, 10:15 AM   #8
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i got caught in an ice storm on the way home from work yesterday. the S-03's did surprisingly good. there was little snow, but i thought i would be sliding around more than i was. well the 92's go back on this weekend!
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Old 10-30-2002, 11:11 AM   #9
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prolly put them on the L tonight..
the WRX later in a few weeks...

mind you that i work for a ski resort and i have nasty biting (grrrr) snow tires .. wich are no fun to drive on on the street
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Old 10-30-2002, 11:33 AM   #10
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My RE-92 are shot, and I am getting ready to buy a set of the Kumho Ecsta 712 Supras in 225/50-16" size. Am I going to have a tough time this winter?
I live in Pittsburgh, fair amount of snow, but a lot of hills. I thought the AWD would take care of things?

I really can't afford (2) sets of tires and wheels right now--will I be Ok with the Kumhos?
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Old 10-30-2002, 11:37 AM   #11
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My RE-92's are shot, I was getting ready to replace them with a set of Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 in 225/50-16 size. Will these tires be OK for year round driving? I know the AWD will do a great job, do you really need SNOW tires?

I live in Pittsburgh PA---not mutch snow, but fair amounts of freezing ran an ice and lots of hills.

I can't really affor (2) set of tire right now, just bought a 3" Catback.

After reading these replys I am getting a little nervous.
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Old 10-30-2002, 01:01 PM   #12
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You're gonna be slippin & slidin with 712's in the wintertime in PA! Even if it's dry out, the temperatures are lower than any summer tire's operating range.

Plus you never know when you'll hit that proverbial icy corner.
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Old 10-30-2002, 01:21 PM   #13
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I second RidinLow's post. Don't even _think_ about using a performance tire in the snow and ice. That AWD may get you moving but it won't help you stop or steer!

People on the i-club disagree about a lot of things but I think you'll find almost universal agreement on this subject. Summer/performance tires are flat-out DANGEROUS in the snow.

A set of winter tires on SOA steel wheels will set you back a few hundred dollars. That's nothing compared to wrecking your car and possibly hurting or killing yourself or someone else.

If you really can't afford a two sets of tires then you should buy some 'high performance/all season' tires.
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Old 10-30-2002, 04:18 PM   #14
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You might want to buy a set of RE-92's with stock WRX wheels. They're not great but they'll be better in the snow than summer tires. Also, RE-92's with stock WRX wheels seem to be going fairly cheaply secondhand.

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Old 10-31-2002, 04:44 AM   #15
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Default Re: When to switch to snow tires?

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When do most people on this board take off their summer tires and put on snow tires? Do you wait for snow to come or do you switch at a particular temperature?
Driving around in slippery conditions needs some "get used to". Better practice with your snow tires on the day of the first snow.

IMHO, you won't kill you winter tires by having them a week to soon. You might kill something else by having them on a week too late...
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...and switch before the weather hits!!! Then leave it til spring hits!


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