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Old 11-07-2002, 11:38 AM   #1
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Question ECUtek in Burlington VT

Is there anyone or any shop from the burlington VT area going to sema to learn about the ecutek products or is anyone going to be offering their engine management solution in vermont. (VT sports car hint, hint). If not I was wondering if anyone wants to go in on starting up a company so we can buy the product and use it since they will not be selling to end users? I figure we can pool resources and then offer basic engine remapping for a nominal fee to recoup the costs. I am not an engine tuner myself so I am not the perfect person to do this but all these tuners are so far away, it would be nice to have something local.

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Old 11-07-2002, 11:52 AM   #2
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I figure we can pool resources and then offer basic engine remapping for a nominal fee to recoup the costs. I am not an engine tuner myself so I am not the perfect person to do this but all these tuners are so far away, it would be nice to have something local.
Well, I think ECUtek is going to be pretty picky when selling this, and I *think* you will prove your experience tuning to get your hands on the software and tools. This is only based on what I have read here, and some folks I have talked too.

I'm hoping Rallispec (NJ) and Pruven Performance (CT) are looking into it. I'd be interested to see what both companies think about the product and if they will carry it.

There are quite a few folks in Nesic that have Tec-II experience though. It would be really great if a group of us could get our hands on the software and then tune our own cars. I think it's wishful thinking though.

Honestly, I don't want anything to do with starting a business to get this product, nor would most of the folks I know that are capable of turning their own cars. It s very serious undertaking, and things can go very wrong quick (as we have seen on this board with many "less technical products"). Plus, just because a group of us might have the software and ability to tune the car, it doesn't mean we have a clue what we are doing. How do we "prove we do" to a customer when other pruven companies will sell more and probably have better prices from the larger customer base (like Vishnu for example).

If you really want to tune your own car and mess with stuff, I'd start reading about the U-tek instead of thinking about getting a group together to purchase an Ecutek.

Personally, I'm going to sit tight and see how this plays out, and maybe keep my eyes open for a WRX ecu from a wrecked car .

Edit: damn keyboard spelling everything wrong

Paul G.

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Old 11-08-2002, 08:03 AM   #3
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All very good points,

my intent with the post was to hopefully spark interest from local tuners in my area.

Comparing this product to the UTEC I would have to say this would have to be the easier of the two, since you get to keep all of the engine manegment settings from the factory and only tackle the small amount that matter when it comes to WOT. As far as being difficult, (I relise that is a big oversimplification) I fully expect it to be, but then again TurboXS is more than happpy to let you tune your own UTEC and the consequences of that could easily be as bad as tuning the ECU directly.

My hope would be the initial training from ECUtek would put a group of us on the right path to success in tuning.

Anyways I had to ask the product looks interesting and since their sales model will not be to the end user I thought I would try to see how much interest there was from end users in my area. by the looks of the replies there isn't much as usual in burlington.
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Old 11-08-2002, 09:12 AM   #4
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There are quite a few posts about the Ecutek on the site. I'd search them out, and e-mail them to your local tuners. Then call and ask them about it a few times.

Not many are on the site unfortunatly.

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Old 11-08-2002, 10:02 PM   #5
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1wrx this thread is reasonably clear. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=ecutek

ECUTek does not want to deal with neophites but rather very experienced tuners like Shiv Pathak at Vishnu. From my experience, I probably would not want anyone else tuning my car. Maybe Pruven in CT but certainly NOT the boys in NJ.

Tuning is an extraordinarily complex task that takes into consideration a large number of variables. A drag car is easy, check the atmosphere, load the matching program ... a few teaks and blast away.

A road racer is somewhat more difficult but doable at the track. Sounds easy.... think about setting up your program that will take into consideration every possible weather event so you can hop into your car and drive to work in comfort.

It takes team of engineers weeks/months of road tests in all sorts of conditions to get it "right".

Save yourself the headache ... be happy, leave it alone

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Old 11-10-2002, 12:33 AM   #6
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Hello all!

Noticed this post, and thought that I would send a reply.

We've been speaking with EcuTek for some time, and I'm happy to report that the Delta ECU is even better than thought! That's why you see companies like ScoobySport, and Prodrive (as reported in a message by Shiv) going with it rather than another platform.

While it is in some ways simple because you can alter those things in the ECU that you wish to change, it is also complex, because you can in fact change so many things.

To develop our base set of performance mapped ECUs, we've got people involved like a member of a US LeMans team, with tons of Motec experience, and an Autronic guru who makes a hobby of visiting blown up Imprezas to find out what went wrong. As a result, we're already looking at a few reliability / longevity issues that we will be addressing...

In any case, as the EcuTek platform is around, you'll see more and more development out of it. If you have a particular setup that you need custom mapping for, it is not out of the question... but if your setup is particularly unique , you may have to wait a bit as the tuners hit the mainstream first.

As for our plans, we will be offering Performance Ecu maps installed to your ECU or on an exchange basis (we send you a fresh ECU with a core charge). We will also be visiting a number of events and mapping to your car can be pre-arranged.

In Vermont, we work with the guys at VT Car enough, that your post raises the point... it is simple enough for us to get them a Delta Dash, and perhaps even to pay a visit to that area as things get up and running. Will raise the idea to them.

We're extremely happy that EcuTek is finally out in North America - the ScoobySport exhaust has always done well because of its early torque delivery (and the sound) but we are looking to the EcuTek platform to really unleash its potential. Our first performance mapped ECUs will be for our Stage 2, then will be an upgrade for the stock WRX, and finally for our Stage 3.

Lots of people have been asking about price... to give you an idea, in the UK EcuTek charges between $900 and $1000 USD for the initial mapping of a car, or for an ECU exchange (not counting core). If you then go out and upgrade your car further, you can have an updated map if you wish for a few hundred dollars.

Compare this to a Link or other ECU for 1300.00, and you are getting better reliability / performance for almost 30 percent less outlay.

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