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Old 11-14-2002, 12:45 PM   #1
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Have a Nice Day? Need help choosing next mod

Well, I'm looking to do something else to the car.

Mod list so far is:

-18" SSR comps
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-TurboXS downpipe
-Catless 3" from DP to a magnaflow muffler


I'm wanting to get some more power, but I dont know where to look. Obvious choice I think would be an Uppipe, but how much will that give me. Ever since i put the exhaust on..I've been itching for more power.
What about a header? what kind of gains can I expect from that. Larger turbo? then I have to get new injectors, correct?

I want to stay around the $700-$800 area if possible
any ideas you guys have would be great

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Old 11-14-2002, 02:38 PM   #2
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nobody has any suggestions?
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Old 11-14-2002, 02:55 PM   #3
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chip?
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Old 11-14-2002, 02:58 PM   #4
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turboXs mbc, samco turbo inlet hose, and an MRT uppipe, then go to a stage 2 chip from turboXs
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Old 11-14-2002, 03:32 PM   #5
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Up-pipe, MBC, Samco IC hoses and SAFC.
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Old 11-14-2002, 04:09 PM   #6
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Best bang for your buck, buy a used TurboXS unichip (with harness and abc) in the "Private For Sale Classified" and have it mapped to Stage 2.
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:56 PM   #7
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If you haven't already done this get new tires....maybe even new rims in the process
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:30 PM   #8
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No up-pipe yet? That'd be my next one...
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Old 11-15-2002, 01:46 AM   #9
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Quote:
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If you haven't already done this get new tires....maybe even new rims in the process
check mod list at the top
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Old 11-15-2002, 11:06 AM   #10
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Upipe + unichip. Both can be found used and probably under $600 for both.

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Old 11-15-2002, 11:58 AM   #11
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Umm...isn't Juztin running a good chance of destroying his stock up pipe? Especially now with a more open exhaust after the turbo? And, if his stock up pipe does take a crap, doesn't that mean the end of his turbo and then the end of his engine resulting in a very sad Juztin?

I would suggest an up pipe and U tec

If not those, then up pipe and suspension parts.

Oh and if you want more power instantly...put your stock wheels back on (or other light 16"s) with other tires of course

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Old 11-15-2002, 12:24 PM   #12
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uppipe, new turbo, Unichip in that order. That's what I'd do.
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Old 11-15-2002, 12:26 PM   #13
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I can't believe no one said gauges yet. You have to get gauges before you start modding your car.
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Old 11-15-2002, 04:48 PM   #14
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oh, sorry I do have guages. I have autometer lunar sereis boost and EGT guages

why go unichip instead of utec?
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Old 11-15-2002, 05:10 PM   #15
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Default Unichip+your setup=300+HP

Because UTEC will be out of your price range of 600-700
I paid a lot for my used unichip and I paid 520. You should be able to find a unichip for under 500.

You will automatically be at stage 2 (get it mapped for it) and stage 2 is 303HP
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Old 11-15-2002, 06:06 PM   #16
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that does sound good.

Other thing i was considering was the header/uppipe piece that is on www.wrxtuner.com

should this be done BEFORE the unichip?
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Old 11-15-2002, 09:20 PM   #17
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Skip the header..you are a long way from maxxing out the stock one.

You're at a bit of a crossroads, given that the idea is to buy stuff once, and get to retain it as you add future mods. At this point, I'd try ad figure out what you are going for....speed, handling, style, or a mix of all three. From there, figure out what you want the car to be power wise....a good highway car, a good stoplight to stoplight car, a good drag car, or a hybrid of all three (say, a mid 12 second car)...and obviously what factors into this the most is budget. If you want to end up with a powerful, reliable mid 12 second car (for example) that spools well, and has a nice broad powerband on the street and strip, you'll need a few things:

turbo, somehow ditch the factory induction hose, up-pipe, fuel (injectors, pump at a minimum), and a way to run it all (computer). I am aHUGE fan of the up-pipe, but am on the other side of the fence on it....while there is no doubt it is worthwhile, it's just that it it is time consuming to do (at least 2 hours, and ofte times upwards of 4.5 if the old pipe is stubborn (which they often are, as the Subaru hardware stinks). As such, we generally don't recommend it be done until you swap the turbo. This way, both are done at the same time, and the labor is economized a bit. If you are doing the work yourself, this may or may not matter much to you. In my eyes, the up-pipe is not a $200 miracle piece....it is a $200 (and up) pipe that costs you at least another $100-$300 to install...at that point, it gets to be a bit pricey, which is why we generally recommend it be done in conjunction with a turbo upgrade. Many here might differ with me, and thats perfectly fine.

A good electronic boost controller would do wonders for you at this point, though if you plan on some form of engine management (Utec for example), you might just want to wait, or get it now...since the Utec can also be used to control boost.

So, ask yourself this: what do I want to spend now, who si going to do the labor and or required tuning on the next mod. From there, the choice becomes much clearer.

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Old 11-16-2002, 01:02 AM   #18
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Thanks for the in depth reply. Just what i was looking for.

I was unsure of the header idea. I was thinking chip first.

The uppipe is not that big a deal, I can hopefully get the Jacksonville mod squad guys to help me with it for a case of beer in return(to be had AFTER the install )

I do want the car to be able to be driven easily ever day, as i've had it only 9 months and put 21k miles on it

I'd like it to be quick, where I dont have to fear running up against something I can't handle at a light, not that I usually race, but its nice to know its there. Mid 12s would be wonderful, but how would driveability be with a car that runs those times?
also, I'm weary of the stock tranny, as its been rebuilt once already. How much HP is safe? i've heard up to about 400hp.

I want the car to basically be an all around performer. Quick enough in a straight line, but even better in the curves with enough power to have fun at a track day.

Looks like so far i'm leaning towards uppipe and used unichip
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