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Old 11-15-2002, 03:43 AM   #1
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Question Tires for dry and wet and snow and dirt?

Another tire question, maybe a foolish one...

I'm looking to replace the Potenza's with something that will handle the street better but will also work in the dirt. I'll be driving about 80% of the time on pavement and 20% on gravel/dirt. No auto-x. No point in getting 17" wheels, I'll keep my stock 16s for strength. Rally tires and street tires are two different species I know, but there has to be a reasonable compromise somewhere. If I pick them up before taking delivery of the car (a couple weeks ) I can get full value back for the stock tires.
Any ideas?
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Old 11-15-2002, 04:45 AM   #2
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I asked this question awhile ago too... Consensus was that gravel/dirt rally-type tires DONT work in the snow, but winter tires work somewhat in the gravel/dirt.

But if its still mostly street driving, I would just shoot for a high-performance all-season tire still. I know other I-clubbers personally who have tires like the Bridgestone RE950's, etc. who go everywhere with them without trouble. Thats what I would do if I was only going with one wheel/tire set for everything. (Best thing if money is not a concern would be to have two sets of rims/tires, one for tarmac and for rough stuff)
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Old 11-15-2002, 12:16 PM   #3
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Default check out the pilot sport a/s

they are expensive, but if you read the reviews on tirerack, I don't think you will be disappointed. You might want to check with Akoshy, he has the pilot sport a/s on 16" rims and claims that they are better than the htr+'s he had on 17's. I plan on getting some for my new toy too - if it ever gets here! (waiting sucks, I ordered back in mid oct) - dammmm port strike
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Old 11-15-2002, 12:40 PM   #4
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Default what abou the width?

I'm also staying with 16" (at least for now) and wondering about going with wider tires 225/50-16.
would you recommend 225's for all-seasons?

i'm thinking about getting BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWS..
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Old 11-15-2002, 05:31 PM   #5
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I've had a set of Dunlop SP Sport A2s for about 3k miles. They're a very nice tire, and fairly "cheap" for a quality 16" all-season tire.

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Old 11-15-2002, 07:20 PM   #6
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one more vote for the BFG KDWS. i'm on my 3rd set of tires on my WRX, and the KDWS are my favorite of the 3 (stock, Dunlop SP Sport 5000, and KDWS).
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Old 11-16-2002, 12:33 AM   #7
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3rd set!!!? I'm still wearing out my RE92's at 42k mi. ...
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Old 11-16-2002, 01:53 AM   #8
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I'm also staying with 16" (at least for now) and wondering about going with wider tires 225/50-16.
would you recommend 225's for all-seasons?

i'm thinking about getting BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWS..
I would not go with 225's on a 6.5 inch wide wheel... 7.5 wide I would. Shoot for 205.
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Old 11-16-2002, 07:40 AM   #9
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Default Re: Tires for dry and wet and snow and dirt?

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Another tire question, maybe a foolish one...

I'm looking to replace the Potenza's with something that will handle the street better but will also work in the dirt. I'll be driving about 80% of the time on pavement and 20% on gravel/dirt. No auto-x. No point in getting 17" wheels, I'll keep my stock 16s for strength. Rally tires and street tires are two different species I know, but there has to be a reasonable compromise somewhere. If I pick them up before taking delivery of the car (a couple weeks ) I can get full value back for the stock tires.
Any ideas?
RE 92's....
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Old 11-16-2002, 02:13 PM   #10
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If you want one tire for snow and gravel and dry roads, maybe you should check out Dunlop's SP Winter Sport M2?
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Old 11-16-2002, 04:07 PM   #11
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I would not go with 225's on a 6.5 inch wide wheel... 7.5 wide I would. Shoot for 205.
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDWS - Size 205/55WR16
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Old 11-16-2002, 11:03 PM   #12
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KDWS

These tires are awesome! No other all season tire comes close. I've had Rally X wins vs guys on rally tires. Tons of grip up Pikes Peak. Fastest street tire lap at track day vs two S4's, BMW Z3, GTI's etc. Got a little slippery after 35 laps. OK on snow. Not so good on ice. As close to doing everything as you can get. Stiff ride until you warm them up (about two miles). Sport Compact Car has them on their WRX. Need I say more.

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Old 11-17-2002, 07:44 AM   #13
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Default Re: Tires for dry and wet and snow and dirt?

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Another tire question, maybe a foolish one...

I'm looking to replace the Potenza's with something that will handle the street better but will also work in the dirt. I'll be driving about 80% of the time on pavement and 20% on gravel/dirt. No auto-x. No point in getting 17" wheels, I'll keep my stock 16s for strength. Rally tires and street tires are two different species I know, but there has to be a reasonable compromise somewhere. If I pick them up before taking delivery of the car (a couple weeks ) I can get full value back for the stock tires.
Any ideas?
Having driven on a variety of tires, including Michelins (MXV4 Plus, Pilot XGT-Z4, Pilot Sport A/S), Bridgestones (RE92s, S03 Pole positions), Dunlops (SP Sport A/2) etc., I would unequivocally recommend the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. They are the best, bar none, when it comes to All-seasons. Perform as well as the Pole positions in the dry and wet and almost snow-tire level performance in the snow (based on reviews from tire magazines and a couple of other people who have driven with them in the nasty stuff). But they are very very pricey. Personally, I would not compromise at all, when it comes to tires.

Incidentally, I understand that BFGoodrich is owned by Michelin. That might account for their quality, even though they may not measure up to the best that Michelin has.
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Old 11-17-2002, 12:22 PM   #14
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i use sumitomo HTR+. $99 at tirerack. 225/45/17 they work great. i thought the sidewalls were a bit softer than most
dry tires, but after getting the rear swaybar on the wrx,
man it was my suspension problem rather than a tire
problem. if you're streeting around, these tires are
highly recommended. looks are great too, has a bold
wide look with a nice tread design. imo

not sure how it will do on the track.
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