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Old 11-17-2002, 01:20 AM   #1
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hey all. I am attending a family party the 23rd of november in San Jose, and since i am there, i think i am going to try mt. hamilton. Im not a speed racer or anything, i just want to see the view...
anyhoo, anything i should know before i go?
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Old 11-17-2002, 02:11 AM   #2
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You probably won't go more than 20 mph. Be careful of oncoming drivers. Some parts are one lane.
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Old 11-17-2002, 02:25 AM   #3
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You probably won't go more than 20 mph. Be careful of oncoming drivers. Some parts are one lane.
thanks for the insight.
BTW, arent you the guy who made that one video going up the mountain? That vid was awesome!
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Old 11-17-2002, 01:39 PM   #4
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anybody else have some input?
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Old 11-17-2002, 03:40 PM   #5
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Well, there are quite a bit of +altitude/-Radius turns going up, make sure you slow down enough and be prepared to pull hard, or you'll end up in the other lane. On the downhill.........just tap the gas if you need to speed up (not recommended if its the first drive) the momentum of our heavy cars will drive the car down the hill faster than you would like if you aren't used to something like that.

I dunno if you're going during the day or night, but i can say that as someone that likes to play on 9 and page mill road (ubertwisties semi-paved) The day is horrible in terms of seeing oncoming traffic, at night you can use their lights. Day is better for terrain visibility, which is very important on hammy, i think the first time i clipped a turn too hard and my rear right tire went off the cliff for a second (this is on a right turn) so might be a good idea to granny it up during the day and see how you like it, and if you have time, go back at night when there's less cars.

The scenary is the ish though, i've seen it during the day and night, and it beats the crap out of skyline's turnout places.
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Old 11-17-2002, 03:52 PM   #6
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thanks so much for the information. I plan to go a little after noon, and i hope it will be sunny. I dont intend to drive hard, i just want to drive up and down it, cause i hear about how fun it is from a lot of BAIC people. And yeah, im too paranoid anyway, so i probably will go like 5 mph below the speed limit.

BTW, are the lanes that narrow?
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Old 11-17-2002, 04:17 PM   #7
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its wide enough for 2 cars to pass by each other with about a foot of space between them? I've always had the worst luck in windy roads, i saw a UPS truck go up page mill and another come down it at the same pass, what they did when they crossed each other........i will never know
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Old 11-17-2002, 04:45 PM   #8
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its wide enough for 2 cars to pass by each other with about a foot of space between them? I've always had the worst luck in windy roads, i saw a UPS truck go up page mill and another come down it at the same pass, what they did when they crossed each other........i will never know
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perhapse i should rethink this before i plummit to my death!
really, im a paranoid noob driver sometimes... ah well, you only live once eh? I think ill force one of my cousins to go with, to navigate...
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Old 11-17-2002, 04:54 PM   #9
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Lol don't get me wrong, its not very risky if you drive as you describe, as for having someone to look, yes its a good idea to have someone as the passenger to take a peek when you're making left turns. Just drive like you would in a parking garage filled with cars (slowly while checking for oncoming cars) and you'll have an absolute blast. Noob drivers only learn when they try I'm a noob driver too, but i'm gettin better, just gotta keep jabbing at it with a pointy stick and show no fear
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Old 11-17-2002, 04:58 PM   #10
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Lol don't get me wrong, its not very risky if you drive as you describe, as for having someone to look, yes its a good idea to have someone as the passenger to take a peek when you're making left turns. Just drive like you would in a parking garage filled with cars (slowly while checking for oncoming cars) and you'll have an absolute blast. Noob drivers only learn when they try I'm a noob driver too, but i'm gettin better, just gotta keep jabbing at it with a pointy stick and show no fear
thanks for the words of encouragment mang!
wish my arse luck! haha, j/k
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Old 11-17-2002, 05:34 PM   #11
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as long as you drive at your own comfortable pace, you will be fine. take the first few turns rather slow to see how you like them. its a blast to drive on that road.
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Old 11-17-2002, 06:17 PM   #12
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On the downhill run, I'd advise engine braking. Any car, including the WRX (which is pretty hefty) tends to pick up some serious momentum. Don't be worried about letting the car sit in 3 or 2 (at least for 4EAT'ers - 5MTs might do with 2,3, or 4) while you are braking. As long as you can shift into gear smoothly, letting the car slow down in gear isn't an issue.

BTW, the Livermore side (Mines rd. up to Mt. Ham) is sooooo much better than the San Jose side.
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Old 11-18-2002, 12:37 AM   #13
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last time i went up mt. hamilton, someone on a bike got ran off the road. Me and my 2 other friends raced to the top and back down. My one friend was in a 97 M3 supercharged and a 300zx and a dumped gsr. it was a blast. Have fun


I think there are something like 300 plus turns
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Old 11-18-2002, 01:09 AM   #14
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last time i went up mt. hamilton, someone on a bike got ran off the road. Me and my 2 other friends raced to the top and back down. My one friend was in a 97 M3 supercharged and a 300zx and a dumped gsr. it was a blast. Have fun


I think there are something like 300 plus turns
300!!!!!!!

whoa! are there spots for me to make a u-turn in case i decide i get...Scared?
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Old 11-18-2002, 02:27 AM   #15
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whoa! are there spots for me to make a u-turn in case i decide i get...Scared?
Actually, by law, once you start going up... you have to make it to the top before you can turn around.

No really, it's not that bad, especially if you just make it a tame drive. You don't have to Brucelee it. My real problem is I tend to get tired making it up, from Tracy it takes me rougly 90mins to get to the observatory. Sometimes I'll stop at "The Junction" (a little restaurant at the junction 25miles from Livermore, Patterson, and the Lick Observator), just to take a breather because, and I'll admit this freely, after all the turns I tend to get a little sick.

I know, I know... sad me... but the WRX should force me to slow down. It should tell me that I should know better.
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Old 11-18-2002, 02:34 AM   #16
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Are there any stories of people flying off the cliffs and plummeting to their deaths Pikes Peak style?
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Old 11-18-2002, 01:16 PM   #17
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Are there any stories of people flying off the cliffs and plummeting to their deaths Pikes Peak style?
Wasn't there a Civic that flew off about a month and a half ago?



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thanks for the insight.
BTW, arent you the guy who made that one video going up the mountain? That vid was awesome!
Thanks man. The next one will be on the way down!
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Old 11-18-2002, 01:19 PM   #18
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The drive up to the top (where the observatory is) is mediocre. There are some dangerous corners (narrow road with cliff, no guardrail), but these are easy to spot so just drive safe.

Watch out for cops as you get closer to the top! Also, they have an excellent view of the road coming up the hill, so I recommend NOT passing on double yellows as they may get ya for that.

The key with this drive is to KEEP GOING! Don't turn around at the top! Keep heading east. Stop at The Junction for a break and a bite to eat. Continue on Mines Road to Livermore. If you have enough time, then turn around at the end of Mines Road and come back to The Junction, then head east on 130, this dumps you out on I5 and is another great stretch of road.

Two more things - cops around the observatory are developing a reputation for writing tickets for missing front license plates.

Also, I recommend filling up with gas before starting this drive.
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Old 11-18-2002, 02:04 PM   #19
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Are there any stories of people flying off the cliffs and plummeting to their deaths Pikes Peak style?
Yep, I was riding my bicycle up Mt. Hamilton and was talking to one of the cops at the top. At the time (this was over a year ago I think) a guy on a sports bike (I think it was a Duccati) went off the side (and unfortunately died from his injuries).

One thing I know from cycling is that the debris on that road is in a constant state of flux, especially on inside corners where rocks and sand fall down and collect on the roadway. It's never the same twice.

I don't know what the circumstances were surrounding the motorcyclist's accident.

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Definitly not a speed road, even though some of us dum bums do it. veloLexus is right when he says its not the same road twice. I've witnessed a cliff diver, luckily no one was hurt. Enjoy the drive, stop a time or two to check the views, and no turning around, you gota go ALL THE WAY to the top
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There's plenty of opportunity for speed if you go PAST the observatory. The road is much wider, with great visibility through the corners, some wild hairpins, and long straights where triple digit speeds are easily attainable.

Oh, and the squirrels! Can't forget about those. I usually end up hitting one on every drive over that hill.
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Old 11-18-2002, 02:46 PM   #22
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There's plenty of opportunity for speed if you go PAST the observatory. The road is much wider, with great visibility through the corners, some wild hairpins, and long straights where triple digit speeds are easily attainable.

Oh, and the squirrels! Can't forget about those. I usually end up hitting one on every drive over that hill.
the squirrels
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squirrels? I've never seen any there, but i think i did see a BOAR
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Oh, and the squirrels! Can't forget about those. I usually end up hitting one on every drive over that hill.


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