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Old 06-01-2001, 02:23 PM   #1
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Usually I leave my car in the garage but we had lots of people over last night and I graciously gave up the garage. Anyways, I forgot to cover the vent over my Trust/Greddy filter and when I got up this morning it was pouring rain. I still didn't think about it until one of my folks friends asked me to take him for a spin and I remembered. Anyways, I put the cover on and started up the engine....no problem. Let it warm up for about 15 minutes and then went for a spin and drove to Vancouver with no problems. Anyways, has anyone ever had a problem with a wet filter? What would actually happen?? Thanks....
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Old 06-01-2001, 02:32 PM   #2
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You should look into the bypass valve thing that a few companies are selling now. I don't remember who makes them, but they're installed in the tubing after the filter but before the throttle body. I think it basically lets water out so it doesn't reach the intake manifold.

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Old 06-01-2001, 02:36 PM   #3
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I haven't had any problems though so I don't think I need anything. I was just wondering what 'would' happen if water got into it. Usually I leave the vent closed, only when the weather is nice do I open it up. I would like to learn more about this bypass thing if anyone knows.
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Old 06-01-2001, 04:44 PM   #4
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It takes quite a bit of water before hydrolock will happen... a lot at once.

If it's just your filter being wet, the suction/vacuum when your engine is on will only take in water vapor or if it's really drenched... drops at a time.

If anything, this should have helped clean the combustion chamber.... sorta the same concept as water injection.

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Old 06-01-2001, 06:26 PM   #5
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The airbypass valve being manufactured now is by AEM.

You pretty much only need it if you're running a true CAI where the filter is exposed to a lot more water.

With our setup, you'll be fine, just make sure you remember to cover up the vent!

Most of the time its fine, but you don't want to run the odd chance of hydrolock, that has a potential for very bad things happening to your motor.
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Old 06-02-2001, 12:03 AM   #6
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Thanks guys. I will be a little more responsible from now on.
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:38 AM   #7
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We all were a noob at some point. Remember folks. For you old school members, what were your noob moments?
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:52 AM   #8
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We all were a noob at some point. Remember folks. For you old school members, what were your noob moments?
too many to list..


I rotated my tires/wheel and didnt tighten the bolts,

I forgot to tighten the hose clamp from intercooler to intake manifold and blew it off when i gave a bit of boost, car hesitated like crazy, had to pull over.

okay that's enough.
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Old 01-09-2007, 01:57 AM   #9
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I've forgotten to tighten one of the hose clamps from the throttle body to intercooler before...
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:09 AM   #10
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Helping a buddy work on his 89 cherokee, after replacing the battery it still wouldn't start it would just turn over. Up untill that point I had been doing great, changing the coolant, oil and diff fluid as well as the battery and plugs.

Then I began hitting the AC pump with the pry bar (was looking for the alternator, and yes, I know what one looks like.). After a couple minutes of feeling reallly stupid, I found my target and gave it a good smack. It started right up after that .

My buddies got a good laugh out of that one.

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Old 01-09-2007, 02:57 AM   #11
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hmmmm... forgot to tighten Paul's wheel lugs...

after refilling my leaky rad i forgot to put the cap back on... boiled over, had to fill it with glacier water up behind whistler...

leaky coolant hose... couldn't figure it out for like a week... then i tightened the clamp...

wasn't sure if my car had a boxer engine until i bought it... (this is a 79 brat... other people wonder too... some don't even believe me...)

mixed up the idle valve screw with the idle mixture screw...

bunch of electrical stuff didn't work... took forever to realize it was the fuses...

didn't know i was supposed to remove the plastic covers on the wheel barings...

anywho... list goes on...
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:09 AM   #12
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hmmmm... forgot to tighten Paul's wheel lugs...

after refilling my leaky rad i forgot to put the cap back on... boiled over, had to fill it with glacier water up behind whistler...

leaky coolant hose... couldn't figure it out for like a week... then i tightened the clamp...

wasn't sure if my car had a boxer engine until i bought it... (this is a 79 brat... other people wonder too... some don't even believe me...)

mixed up the idle valve screw with the idle mixture screw...

bunch of electrical stuff didn't work... took forever to realize it was the fuses...

didn't know i was supposed to remove the plastic covers on the wheel barings...

anywho... list goes on...
Funny story:

About a year and a half ago, when I picked up the '2, one of the first things I did while waiting on the new clutch, was see how many people I could fit into it.
With one person in the trunk, one in the frunk, and 4 inside the cabin, we were having a blast. We all then got a really evil idea. Everybody hopped out, aside from the guy in the frunk, we left him in there. He was cracking jokes about my little rice burner earlier, so we decided we'd push the car around and scare him. Well, we had the car going about 10kmh in reverse, and I hit the brakes. After that, my fog lights ceased to work.

I tried everything in the months following, from checking all of the fuse boxes un the frunk, and the hood, to checking the switch to see if the wiring seperated.

It turns out that when I hit the brakes, my buddies head hit a fuse the pervious owner put in for the fog lights underneath the strut brace, and shattered it (!).

Anyways, that just reminded me of shoving my friend in the front trunk and making his head hurt. Thanks .
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:04 AM   #13
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The bypass valve things are mainly for when you submerge a low-mounted CAI into a puddle or something. It stays closed until the intake gets blocked (ie. by water) and then the air pressure opens the bypass (usually mounted inline with the intake pipe, further up the system and out of harms way) to allow air in.

As for a wet filter, we had a bunch of people suck water into their cars at the ice-track rallycross a few years ago (it was really warm), and most of them were fine (I pulled my filter out after and dried it off). Some people's airboxes were full of ice because the water was coming in, stopping at the filter and then freezing while sitting in the pits!
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:26 AM   #14
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Warwick, look at the date of the first post.
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:57 PM   #15
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Warwick, look at the date of the first post.
You've come a long way tora!



My newb moments revolve around running a BOV and CAI on my old wagon. With Tein s-tech springs on stock WRX shocks, and 18" Rotas, that car was ballin' although I could never figure out why Pat was giggling as we ran it on the dyno.

Now I know, and the answer has to do with non-functional mods, aka rice.
Plus, check engine lights are cool.

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Old 01-09-2007, 02:07 PM   #16
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I had a 05 Civic Si Coupe with a Injen cold air intake. One day during spring runoff I was driving around and was going through some big puddles (because I'm dumb and forgot the filter was right behind my front wheel). Either way, I sucked close to a litre of water and caused 4k in damages.
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:17 PM   #17
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We all make mistakes, after all, we're just humans aren't we?

I've made a mistake before, I installed my intake wrong and I was wondering why it didn't make a difference. Until i had another friend check it and told me what's wrong. But I don't remember what he told me, he just said a bunch of stuff and I didn't understand at all.

I hope I don't make any errors when I mod my Subie. I'm new to Turbo Tuning.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:21 PM   #18
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here's my oldest noob post I could find... interesting people on the thread anyways http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54770

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Old 01-09-2007, 05:26 PM   #19
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Wow, everyone on the forum was so polite back then... Amazing.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:33 PM   #20
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Wow, everyone on the forum was so polite back then... Amazing.
Cram it!




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Old 01-09-2007, 06:07 PM   #21
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So Pat, did you ever find out the answer to this?
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Does anyone know if the STi gearset will go in a 98 case ?

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On that note, here's my first post on here.
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No one at the races knew what kind of car they were looking at, but I like being shrouded in mystery.

I find that the scooby crowd is definately more mature than the 16-19 year old honda crowd.

One question though, does anyone else find that the idle is rough?
I had just come back from the street drags, and no one wanted to run my wagon. They all just looked at it and asked "what is it?".

From the look of the spotted thread, it looks like the 16-19 y/o Honda crowd has returned.

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Old 01-09-2007, 06:39 PM   #22
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the gearset goes in no prob, the center diff tailhousing changed in 98. Note also the sarcasm re: gbox strength
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:49 PM   #23
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Oh yeah, sarcasm was noted.
the production boxes are sooo strong


It's pretty interesting to see the guys taking part in that thread. Trey from Cobb back when they were a really young company, yourself the rally racer, Joel Gat the tarmac racer, and a lot of early turbo guys. The boards sure were different back then, when people had to develop their own concepts and ideas. The infant years of any scene are a sweet, sweet time to be involved.
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Old 01-09-2007, 08:53 PM   #24
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Yah, I recognize some of those names. Heck, I recognize some of those names from the good 'ol STi Mailing List!

Necromancer personally knows Joel Gat. Now that's going waaaay back.

LaterZ!
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:01 PM   #25
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I had too many n00b situations.

I remember in the i-club days I wanted to get blue contacts for my eyes, so i took a picture of it and asked a bunch of testosterone gear heads what they thought of pretty me.
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