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Old 08-19-2000, 04:41 AM   #1
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Nothing really important here...just thought I'd let y'all know that I almost crashed up my Sube in Richmond. This was at the offramp at Arthur Laing near airport to Richmond. It had just started raining...so the roads were SLICK. I wasn't even going that fast...maybe 80 at the highest? Oh I can take that turn in the dry at 120 no problem. Anyway...Toyos just gave up and slid towards the outside, lucky I took the inside, steered in the direction I wanted to go (thanks driving school), kept on the gas...and the car kept sliding towards the wall?!? Big trouble now...still sliding...more steering...more gas...what seemed like forever (actually it was forever..) AWD finally kicked in and the tires BIT and started to make very loud expensive scrubbing noises.

Time for a bigger rear sway bar to correct that darn understeer.

And no, I wasn't pushing the car at the turn..I'm not crazy...the tires just gave up on me...I'm not very pleased with the performance of the FZ4s in the wet. Not at all. That's twice I've almost gotten myself into big Scooby Doodoo. Hehe...that was funny. Scooby doodoo..hehe..I should go to bed now.

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Old 08-19-2000, 04:56 AM   #2
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be careful man, i know a friend who have gotten an accident there (raining too)... that place is more dangerous than it seems esp in the rain cause all the little pebbles and dirt wash out onto the road!

be careful!!!
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Old 08-19-2000, 06:17 AM   #3
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yeah thats a very bad off ramp.....the posted speed limit use to be 35 kpm. i don't know if it still is, noboby seems to follow it.
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Old 08-19-2000, 09:54 AM   #4
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Glad to hear you're alrite keiho... The roads were very slick last nite because it didn't rain for a long time... Luckily you knew what you were doing and didn't hit the barrier..
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Old 08-19-2000, 11:01 AM   #5
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My friends' friend totaled his Integra at that offramp awhile back on a day that he had exams.. so he left the car there and it got a ticket for driving too fast under condition or something like that..

Good to hear nothing (car and person) got injured..
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Old 08-19-2000, 06:55 PM   #6
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Well, the ideal thing to do would be to keep ON the gas...but what you did sounds right. As long as you have steering control of the car and keep on the gas to continue driving in the direction you want you'll be fine. Unless of course you were in way too hot...then no matter what you do you're screwed
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Old 08-20-2000, 12:26 AM   #7
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Wow, Keiho..glad to hear your ok...it was pretty damn slick last night. It cleared up some, but roads were slipppppery.

Had the same experience yesterday going on Bridgeport to Knight Street entrance. Just lowered my car a buddys house. (I got the 5Zigen springs) And with the Whiteline Swaybar in, I thought I was superman ... WRONG. Rain is still rain even with AWD, it helps alot, but there are still limits that come up quick if you dont know your own limits...

Going about 80 starting in the offramp, then found I was going to fast cuz it started slipping to outside. Let off gas a bit to correct (no brake) then got back on gas a bit to try to steer through it. It kept slipping a bit though, so I just let off until I could go straight again. Didnt feel I was doing the right thing though. You AWD driving school guys... was this the right thing to do? or did I screw up somewhere?
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Old 08-20-2000, 12:34 AM   #8
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Hey Keiho great to hear that you and your car came out safe and sound......don't want to hear anything bad happen once I got off the plane last night.....
People please drive safe!!!!!!
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Old 08-20-2000, 12:58 AM   #9
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I almost lost it as well in the morning. Doing a left turn a little quick. The entire car was sliding sideways, with only 2 lanes to slide. It sure woke me up.
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Old 08-20-2000, 01:23 AM   #10
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hey keiho.. i think u need to get a wife with a stick =)

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Old 08-20-2000, 01:25 AM   #11
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glad you are here to talk about it. my girlfriend has the FZ4's on her civic and they are a little too "all weather" to inspire rain shedding confidence. i just put kumhos on my impreza and they are a much better (though "summer") tire.
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Old 08-20-2000, 01:36 AM   #12
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ill be gettin those kuhmos when i get some more $$$ =)
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Old 08-21-2000, 11:50 AM   #13
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Ouch... those FZ4's really suck, oh well... at least their ok in the dry... chk out a Bridgestone Potenza S0-2 PP.... they are good in the wet, same with the Dunlop SP Sport 9000's... I've used the Falken GRB RS Tune II's and they are really good w/ rain.
(I'm in Calgary) and when it rains here it comes down hard... anyways, I was doing about 160km/h on Deerfoot (posted limit is 100km/h) and this is in a terrential downpour.... the water was evacuated so fast, there was no hydroplanning at all... I've heard really good things about the new GRB-451's too... even better in the wet.

BTW, I drive a '99 Legacy 2.5GT
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Old 08-22-2000, 12:48 AM   #14
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that wasn't a really bad turn there....i did same speed w/ my friend's Accord EX-R years ago w/ P700z....
but SP9000 and T1S are good wet tires....don't really think so for S02....(is there any diff for S02 and S02-PP???)
my friend is using that on a Brimmer 325is and it's pretty bad on wet....
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Old 08-22-2000, 08:26 AM   #15
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The S0-2 PP are made for Wet handling...

but for all who what a really good summer tire that has awesome tracking in the dry as well, check out the Falken GRB-451 .. they are relatively inexpensive compared to other tires... another recommedation for the drivers in the 604 area is the Pirelli P7000 Super sports.... more expensive though, but it's good.

Yeah, I have a set of 215/45/17 Falken GRB-451's on my '97 Accord EX-R's on Enkei RP-01's and they do really well in the rain as well.... possibly better than the GRB RS Tune II's on my Speedline Supertourismos on my GT
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Old 08-23-2000, 11:47 AM   #16
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GTBGuy, you interested in joining a subaru club in calgary? Check out http://rsclub.rzsoft.com. We're looking for new members all the time.
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Old 08-25-2000, 12:32 AM   #17
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direwlf - yeah, I was talking to Tulit about it... thinking of doing so I'm also starting up the University of Calgary Import Car Club...
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Old 08-25-2000, 09:14 AM   #18
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Well, you'll have a WAY more modified car than any of our club members, thats for sure. We're just a bunch of poor a$$es The only other guy with any hard-core mods done was Morgen (Minnam Stage 1 Kit) and he is moving to japan.
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