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Old 11-26-2002, 12:14 AM   #1
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Default Hmm, could 17x7s be legal DS for WRX?

I just purchased the 2003 Impreza workshop manual(s,8) from Subaru or rather Fuji Heavy Industries LTD. as it states inside the manual's cover. In section section 5, page WT-2 under wheel and tire system, general description, specifications, it lists the wheels and their specs, a 15 x 6 JJ, a 16 x 6 1/2 JJ, a 17 x 7 JJ all with offsets of 55 and the 16 x 4 T. There is nothing on the page that refers to any of them being other than a standard part. So if SCCA requires the shop manuals as documentation for standard parts, how can the 17 x 7 be considered illegal?
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Old 11-26-2002, 07:52 AM   #2
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I just purchased the 2003 Impreza workshop manual(s,8) from Subaru or rather Fuji Heavy Industries LTD. as it states inside the manual's cover. In section section 5, page WT-2 under wheel and tire system, general description, specifications, it lists the wheels and their specs, a 15 x 6 JJ, a 16 x 6 1/2 JJ, a 17 x 7 JJ all with offsets of 55 and the 16 x 4 T. There is nothing on the page that refers to any of them being other than a standard part. So if SCCA requires the shop manuals as documentation for standard parts, how can the 17 x 7 be considered illegal?
Because the wheels are an option (albeit port/dealer installed) on the vehicles they are listed.

They are not qualified for stock, even tho they are listed in the FSM.

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Old 11-26-2002, 09:38 AM   #3
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They are not port installed, just dealer or end user installed.
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Old 11-26-2002, 09:47 AM   #4
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They are not port installed, just dealer or end user installed.
Glenn... for the umpteenth time... they are port installed in New England at the Subaru of New England Port.

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Old 11-26-2002, 09:50 AM   #5
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Anyways, only the 16x6.5 are legal.

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Old 11-26-2002, 04:22 PM   #6
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So what can we use for documentation? The federal window sticker which in the past was honored is supposedly no longer credible. While I may not be capable of trophying, my wife is. I would be very upset if the car were protested for something that appears a "standard part" in the manual or for something removed like the spoiler which is shown as an option in the manual.
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:59 PM   #7
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look in the autox rules thread for stuff that is illegal. Basically any OPTION is illegal. The spolier is a gray area, but no one got protested for it this year.

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Old 11-26-2002, 07:30 PM   #8
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It's not as much an issue of finding the documentation to be credible, it's the method by which Subaru outfits their cars with the whole port-install/dealer-install nature of options on the cars... If they were FACTORY options, this wouldn't be so confusing... but the port isn't QUITE factory, and it's not quite dealer install, and it's all confusing to anyone who ever tried to set up a WRX for stock

BTW, Tom's car came with the optional can of whoopass... or at least Tom did. I'm still trying to find the documentation, but I'm not having any luck... PROTEST!!!!

-Chris, trying to inject a little humor, since everyone on the internet seems to be in a bad mood of recent...
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Old 11-26-2002, 07:47 PM   #9
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Glenn... for the umpteenth time... they are port installed in New England at the Subaru of New England Port.
Sorry, I was talking about SOA, not SONE!

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Old 11-26-2002, 07:58 PM   #10
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only 16x6.5 wheels are legal on our cars in dstock
period


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So what can we use for documentation? The federal window sticker which in the past was honored is supposedly no longer credible. While I may not be capable of trophying, my wife is. I would be very upset if the car were protested for something that appears a "standard part" in the manual or for something removed like the spoiler which is shown as an option in the manual.
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Old 11-26-2002, 08:47 PM   #11
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BTW, Tom's car came with the optional can of whoopass... or at least Tom did. I'm still trying to find the documentation, but I'm not having any luck... PROTEST!!!!

Haha, that was the way quite a few people went about it this year.....Hmmm, he's faster then me.....protest!!

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Old 11-26-2002, 09:29 PM   #12
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Haha, that was the way quite a few people went about it this year.....Hmmm, he's faster then me.....protest!!

-Tom
Are we talking about DS or GS?
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Old 11-27-2002, 12:16 AM   #13
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DS for me!

Chris Hartman (Draken?) , Neil Tovsen (SUVETR) and Katie Lacey (???) are the National GS folk

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I think Andrew was referring to all the flack that Priebe guy caught in GS. LOL... "that Priebe guy"
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Old 11-27-2002, 09:19 AM   #15
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ohh yeaaaa. I forgot about that. See that was more a case of "dude you beat me by 1.5 seconds with the same type of car"



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Old 11-27-2002, 07:43 PM   #16
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DS for me!

Chris Hartman (Draken?) , Neil Tovsen (SUVETR) and Katie Lacey (???) are the National GS folk

-Tom
Hey... what about me? No respect. I keep Chris on his toes on the West coast. I collected 18 ProSolo points. I even finished in the top 5 at Wendover Pro and Bremerton NT, although neither of those were shining examples of my driving. And I really sucked at the Atwater NT.

Hmm.... I guess if you don't live in Oregon, I shouldn't be someone you know.

"dude you beat me by 1.5 seconds with the same type of car" Hahahahaa... I'd protest Chris 4 or 5 times a year if that was the criteria.

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Old 11-28-2002, 12:17 PM   #17
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Hey... what about me? No respect. I keep Chris on his toes on the West coast. I collected 18 ProSolo points. I even finished in the top 5 at Wendover Pro and Bremerton NT, although neither of those were shining examples of my driving. And I really sucked at the Atwater NT.
Uhmm then why didnt you go to Nationals eh?

Sorry I was ratting off the people that ive raced with nationally and that i saw at kansas this year
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Old 11-28-2002, 02:34 PM   #18
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I just watched a new shipment of 03' WRXs come off the truck at my local dealer. One of them had 17" O.Z. wheels on it and they were listed on the factory sticker. ($2100.00 option ) That would make them legal for DS, wouldn't it? Just wondering.

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Old 11-28-2002, 04:06 PM   #19
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I just watched a new shipment of 03' WRXs come off the truck at my local dealer. One of them had 17" O.Z. wheels on it and they were listed on the factory sticker. ($2100.00 option ) That would make them legal for DS, wouldn't it? Just wondering.

-Dylan
There's a letter out to Howard Duncan regarding this.

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