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Old 11-26-2002, 04:35 PM   #1
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Default Will driving shoes wear out in no time, if I wear them for more than driving?

I had a pair of tennis shoes, with pretty thin soles. They were great for driving and casual dress. (actually, I dress like a bum all the time.)

Will the Simpson driving shoes or another brand, perhaps, last if I wear them for "none driving" use. Not jogging or anything, just casual "to the mall" stuff and running errands.

I don't think the "low top" black would look silly, and since I take my RS everywhere, I would get more driving use from them.

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Old 11-26-2002, 04:48 PM   #2
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Yeah, they probably would wear quickly.
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Old 11-26-2002, 07:32 PM   #3
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Yes they will wear quickly. The rubber on my G-Force shoes is very soft and grippy. It tends to wear fairly quickly. Not sure how the Simpson's car, but my shoes have very thin soles to increase pedal feel. However, they have almost no arches, and walking around in them for a while will lead to some VERY achey feet.
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Old 11-26-2002, 07:47 PM   #4
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Thanks for the input. Any others out there? I hope you don't think I am some "goofball racer wannabe".

I am normal.................uh, mostly.

My wife saw a pair of driving shoes in a Hammaker-Schlemmer catalog, and asked if I would like a pair for a holiday gift.

They are blue and yellow, and have a "P" on the side. Anyone ever seen these?

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Old 11-26-2002, 08:59 PM   #5
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Those are probably PILOTI driving shoes. I have seen some guys at the kart track wearing them. I believe they are made for driving but have a little more support built into them, unlike pure driving/racing shoes. They look more like a regular shoe. They retail for 100-110.00
Another shoe you might want to check out is the Sparco Race Cat or Replicat (no nomex).
Other than the Piloti or the Sparco Cat series I think you would look kind of funny wearing full on race driving shoes in public, but thats just my opinion. I have owned both Sparco mid top race and the Replicat. Go with the Piloti.
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Old 11-26-2002, 09:51 PM   #6
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I don't even walk around the pit in my G-Force shoes. After a track session, I'll switch back to my walking shoes immediately!

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Old 11-27-2002, 12:32 AM   #7
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BEST DRIVING SHOES evAr!!!11



lowtop chuck taylors are the most comfortable driving shoes, especially when they're broken in, and they're only 20-30 dollars.
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Old 11-27-2002, 02:48 AM   #8
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Will the Simpson driving shoes or another brand, perhaps, last if I wear them for "none driving" use.
Simpsons seem to wear especially quickly outside the car, but not all that much faster than the uppers (which don't last all that long either). They're relatively cheap to begin with (compared to Sparco, OMP, etc.), so if you like 'em, and they feel good, wear 'em.

The Piloti's you saw and someone else mentioned are a good intermediate choice too. Sole is perhaps double the thickness of the Simpsons... less feel, better wear.
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Old 11-27-2002, 07:39 AM   #9
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Thanks for the input. You were right. they are Piloti's. I am going to Pic-way, and try to find the shoes I had been wearing for driving. I think they were $14.

I bought those for a formula ford driving "school", my wife sent me to, for my birthday. All I had was wide basketball shoes. So, the ones I'm wearing are over a year old, worn every day. Not bad for $14.

Thanks Everyone

I may start a new thread on the current line of helmets available, and driver opinions on those for track days and rallycross. I promise not to wear it to the mall............maybe.

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Old 11-27-2002, 08:19 AM   #10
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Check into a pair of wrestling shoes. That's what I, and a couple of people I know in Pro/ClubRally, wear.

They have a narrow foot-print, which means you don't have to worry about catching another pedal; but that lack of a wide tread also means that you really have to have your heel-toe & double-clutching techniques solid. They are also very flexible and have a thin sole, so you can really feel the pedals and the feedback you're getting (breaks in particular).

I only wear them at events, and always take them off to walk around if the ground isn't dry (ie. mud, non-packed snow, etc.) I've had them for about 4 years now, and other than the dirt/dust on them, they're as good as new.

Just my $0.02

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Old 11-27-2002, 11:36 AM   #11
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Tell us again why you want to wear your driving shoes around?

This thread reminds me of the time I saw a young man driving his lowered and caged Honda across the Bay Bridge wearing nomex Simpson racing gloves and a t-shirt.

Roy, leave your racing shoes at home except when you're going out to the track. Wait until you get to the track to put them on. They will last you a lot longer. I still have and use my original Simpson high tops that I bought 10 years ago (and there's a lot of track miles on them!).

Also, as you get more experience, the "coolness" of your racing shoes will wear off and they will simply become a piece of safety equipment in your mind (like a shin guard or shoulder pad, which you wouldn't wear to the mall either).

Besides, racing shoes should fit very snug on your feet when you are sitting and be almost uncomfortable to walk around in.

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Old 11-27-2002, 11:50 AM   #12
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Tell us again why you want to wear your driving shoes around?

Also, as you get more experience, the "coolness" of your racing shoes will wear off and they will simply become a piece of safety equipment in your mind (like a shin guard or shoulder pad, which you wouldn't wear to the mall either).

Besides, racing shoes should fit very snug on your feet when you are sitting and be almost uncomfortable to walk around in.

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Exactly what he said... my shoes nearly hurt my feet to walk around in... and all the racing gear is just that... GEAR.. right pain in the arse if you ask me, but it's part of what we do....

wear them only when ya need em

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Old 11-27-2002, 11:57 AM   #13
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Gary,

It is definitely not to look cool at the mall. I wanted black, so they would NOT stand out. I'm 38, and I don't care if people think I'm an "animal loving transexual".

I just wanted a pair of casual shoes that felt good walking, and felt good driving. My track days and rallycross' are few and far between because I have been ill, but I do have my daily fun driving, so I want to really enjoy it to its fullest.

I was just looking for a combo solution, if it is out there.

By the way gary, how do you feel about "animal loving transexuals? ...........big boy? (just kidding)

Thanks for the input.

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Old 11-27-2002, 12:09 PM   #14
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Thank you also, Jamie.

Did you ever see my post about "wonder if she is single?"

It was not a thread, just a post. I always thought you would be a good catch, and be interesting to talk with:

Good driver
Cool sport lover
Bright, yet kind? (or mean and snotty?) I don't know.
Prettyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Don't worry, It's hard to be a stalker from Maryland.

Married to the world's BEST wife in the world and have the most evil 3 year old in the world.

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Old 11-27-2002, 12:22 PM   #15
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Roy,

If I saw you wearing racing shoes in the mall I don't think I would consider you an animal loving transexual. Animal LIKING transexual, maybe, but I wouldn't assume LOVING right off the bat.

Understand that I am a bit biased as I manage to get quite a bit of track time. I wear racing shoes for two reasons. The first is because I have to as they are mandatory safety equipment. The second is because they give slightly better pedal feel and are a little narrower.

Neither of these things is necessary for the street. Racing shoes wouldn't help me drive any better or any faster on the street. And I'm certainly not concerned about my feet catching on fire (of course, that may be a common animal liking transexual issue).

I see no reason to use racing shoes on the street other than to get that "racing" feel. Which is rather "wanna be" in my mind. The police officer that pulls you over for spirited driving will most likely think the same and be less lenient with you. On the other hand, if he's driving a canine unit, it may be your lucky day!

All kidding aside, I hope you recover from your illness and get to spend much more time at driving events so you can wear those shoes out properly!

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Old 11-27-2002, 12:44 PM   #16
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but real racing shoes like the Simpsons have fire-resistency (sp?). If you're doing a lot of driving events, I think its a good idea to have the right equipment, even if there is very little danger of catching fire - better to be protected than not.

btw - Gary: amazing driving this past weekend. I was a passenger in one of the Audi instructor's cars, when you were on course on Thursday, and we watched you fly by like a blue blur. What a driver!
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Thank you also, Jamie.

Did you ever see my post about "wonder if she is single?"
Good driver
Cool sport lover
Bright, yet kind? (or mean and snotty?) I don't know.
Prettyyyyyyyyyyyyy

heh no i must have missed that...
yep i'm not married... think there's a guy out there that can put up with my obsessions? ... i mean .. hobbies?

thanks for the compliments Roy... have fun...

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Old 11-27-2002, 12:55 PM   #18
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Why stop at the shoes? I think going to the mall with a driving suit, gloves, shoes and helmet is extremely cool!

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Old 11-27-2002, 01:14 PM   #19
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don't forget your HANS device. I never hit the mall without it.
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Old 11-27-2002, 01:14 PM   #20
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What if you're coming at the problem from the opposite direction?

My wife hates my shoes and wants me to get new ones so much that she's willing to pay for them.

So assuming she approves of the styling, if I got the Pilotis, they'd be safer than other shoes,
good for driving (some of my shoes have soles that flare out and get stuck under the pedals some times ) at rallycrosses, trackdays, TSDs and autocrosses,
good to wear at work (I walk on carpet most of the day )
and I'd be scoring points with her at the same time.

How will I break the animal loving transsexual part to her?

Coati (whose first thought about the Subject line of this thread was that someone wanted shoes like Homer -- I should probably wear a helmet when I walk, too )
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Old 11-29-2002, 07:32 PM   #21
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The Pilot's are a good shoe that I would say are decent for driving or walking around in.
http://www.piloti.com/frameset.html
I have the Monaco's.
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Old 11-30-2002, 08:37 AM   #22
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I love to drive barefoot. It's probably not safe, and I believe it may be against the law, but I can't stop. I'm addicted to the pedal feel. Almost like doin 'it' without a 'raincoat' (is that vague enough?).. The Puma store near me had a blowout sale on the Sparco pit shoe Pumas. They look just like racing shoes but have a little bit of a thicker sole. They are covered in enough gaudy sparco logos to make you feel like a real race car driver. I was 'this' close to buying them, common sense stopped me, hell, I'd probably have gotten a speeding ticket later that night because of the shoes anyway..

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Old 12-01-2002, 01:36 AM   #23
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I think the issue with driving barefoot as I see it besides a grip issue is that if you panic stop and don't manage to land your foot squarely on the pedal, you might well tweak the crap out of your toes/have them fold and slip off. At least with shoes on, you can get away with that a whole lot more. (same principal why mittens are better at keeping fingers from getting broken while snowboarding... keeping fingers together=no individual finger sticking out to get snapped)
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