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Old 11-26-2002, 07:10 PM   #1
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Had a funny experience I would like to share. It just came to my mind after reading about the tinting group meet. Anywho, it was Halloween night and I was heading home from UBC. Going north on Cambie, there was a roadblock on the stretch just outside Q.E. Park. It came up to my turn to be questioned by the cops, so I hit the auto switch to roll the window down all the way, and the cop asks me to roll the window back up a bit. He then proceeds to scratch at my window, albeit lightly, with his fingernail. Since my front windows were not tinted, there was no damage done, other than perhaps some oil transferred from his finger. But the funny thing is he kept at it for a good 10 seconds, all the while asking me if I had some kind of paper on my window (I assume he meant tint). Since there was nothing, I just replied, "Uh, no...I think it's dirt you're scratching at there." But he still kept at it, asking me if I was sure and such. He finally gave up, and said, "Yeah, that's probably just dirt." And I was free to go.
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Old 11-27-2002, 05:27 AM   #2
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Lucky you didn't have tint in the front eh? god, i hate road blocks!

why are they so anal about tinting in the front? i mean, ok, if it's really dark tint (5%, limo tint), i can see why (cop can't see driver).

but tint like 50% or 35% (like mine) is not bad. you can still see thru. in fact, it's a safety feature as in case of an accident, the tint will prevent glass from flying in your face (unfortunately, i experienced this).

so what? f!@#ing catch the speeders and real criminals of the streets, not regular joes

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anyways, good luck to all those who have front tint. avoid those damn roadblocks!
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Old 11-27-2002, 07:17 PM   #3
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just for info guys....if a cop asks you to roll your window up to check for tint (if he hasnt seen it yet).....you have NO legal obligation to comply with him. If you really didnt want to you wouldnt have to....but then again you may be just pissing him off. **maybe you have a rare medical condition which requires you to get fresh air while you drive, ....in turn you have to drive everywhere with your windows down**

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Old 11-28-2002, 03:56 PM   #4
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Do you guys really know why you are not suppose to have tint on the front windows. It is for a police officers safety. As an officer walks to you car if you are pulled over and he is not able to see what the heck you are doing, you put them in danger as you might be getting a weapon ready to shoot them etc.

I know I have had a hot head lately but come on guys, breaking rules just because they have them is pretty immature.

What you guys consider police harrasment can usaually be diffused pretty quick if you simply talk to them like they are human and not your enemy.

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Old 11-28-2002, 04:06 PM   #5
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Gotta agree with the Gucci on this one. I've got my front windows tinted but if I cop hassles me about them, I know I'm in the wrong. And an officer CAN ask you to put your windows back up. Just like if he see's what he thinks is the butt of a gun under your seat, or smells pot in the car he can then take further steps to identify anything illegal.
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:33 PM   #6
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Tell them u take Accutane and u'r super sensitive to sunlight, sunburn in like 1.5-2 hours. Doctor's orders.

In all seriousness.. think that would work?
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Old 11-28-2002, 06:07 PM   #7
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Gotta agree with the Gucci on this one. I've got my front windows tinted but if I cop hassles me about them, I know I'm in the wrong. And an officer CAN ask you to put your windows back up. Just like if he see's what he thinks is the butt of a gun under your seat, or smells pot in the car he can then take further steps to identify anything illegal.
first- ok yes he can ask you to roll down your window BUT if he hasnt seen the front window yet then YOU dont have to comply!!!

second- if he thinks he sees the butt of a gun you'd better like the barrel of his gun shoved in your ear.

third- if he smells/sees pot in your car he can only search the immediate surroundings/area (ie front and rear seats), and no where else. He will need a warrant to search in your trunk and under your hood. If he does search without your consent it is an illegal search and all evidence will not be admissable in court.

I am not trying to be a smart ass about the tint .....i have my fronts tinted as well. If your tint is light and the cop is not being an ass then you should be fine. AND the reason for the no tint law is because other drivers are supposed to be able to see inside and see you. Police also hate the dark stuff (as mentioned above) because its an officer safety issue....they can not see what you are doing in the vehicle ie hiding guns, drugs etc.

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Old 11-28-2002, 07:47 PM   #8
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Window **FILM** tint on the front windows is banned for another reason... window can't easily be broken in an emergency. However, according to the Central Island Highway Patrol near Parksville, removing the glass and replacing it with tint-applied glass is perfectly OK... Granted, they/I could be wrong, but it was very clearly written. Please contradict immediately if needbe.

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Old 11-28-2002, 08:58 PM   #9
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like i said, i understand why dark tint would be illegal, but light tint? c'mon! why not make all tint illegal then?

i agree rules are rules; but some need to be questioned.


btw, even tinted windows can be broken easily....it still shatters...but rather having the glass fly everywhere, it stays together with the film -> easier cleanup.
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Old 11-28-2002, 09:51 PM   #10
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Tell them u take Accutane and u'r super sensitive to sunlight, sunburn in like 1.5-2 hours. Doctor's orders.

In all seriousness.. think that would work?
u have to show some sort of valid document from your doctor stating that u have this condition.
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:06 PM   #11
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...It also goes on the back of your license and must be declared (with documentation) at time of licensing or renewal.
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Old 11-28-2002, 10:13 PM   #12
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u have to show some sort of valid document from your doctor stating that u have this condition.
It's a side effect of Accutane and other acne medicine that makes u easier to get sunburned.. so just get a prescription and leave it with your insurance papers.. hahaha
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Old 11-29-2002, 12:04 AM   #13
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Like I said, my fronts aren't tinted. And the only reason this annoyed me wasn't because the officer checked my windows, but because he was an ass about it. Come on, my windows are obviously not tinted, and he was there for the better part of a minute trying to find the 'invisible' tint film. I have no problems with complying with an officer's request most of the time, but in this case, he was definitely being an idiot about the situation. By the way, my back windows are tinted and the stark contrast makes it pretty obvious which windows are tinted and which are not.
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Old 11-29-2002, 12:33 AM   #14
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The "medical reason" for window tinting is valid, however a dark tint is not needed as long as it has the right amount of UV protection. Tinting as we know it is basically for looks and for privacy. If one was doing it simply to let less UV in the car you could get the least amount of darkness of tint with a high UV protection percentage.

As for checking for front tinting, if you are going through a road check and you have rear windows tinted but both your front windows are lowered the officer can deduce from this that you may have them down to hide the tint (especially when it is crazy cold out) and this is enough "evidence" to warrant asking you to raise your windows. Same would go if your hand was shoved under your seat. Why else would you have it under there unless you were holding a weapon...the officer can check. And if you want to try to argue against that in a court of law give it a shot.
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Old 11-29-2002, 09:13 AM   #15
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As for checking for front tinting, if you are going through a road check and you have rear windows tinted but both your front windows are lowered the officer can deduce from this that you may have them down to hide the tint (especially when it is crazy cold out) and this is enough "evidence" to warrant asking you to raise your windows. Same would go if your hand was shoved under your seat. Why else would you have it under there unless you were holding a weapon...the officer can check. And if you want to try to argue against that in a court of law give it a shot.
first off I would not argue this in court.

second- "evidence"....where are the officers Reasonable probable groungs to check your windows? if he has not seen your windows and askes you to roll them up.....it is incriminalting yourself. I am not trying to show everyone a defence but police officers cant do what ever they want...they have to have reasons.

Q for everyone.....you are walking down the sidewalk minding your own business when a popo stops you and says that he wants to ID you. what would you do?? and what CAN you do??

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