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Old 11-26-2002, 07:55 PM   #1
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Default A question for those who have competed at SCCA Nationals

I'm not up to the caliber yet to go compete there, but had a few questions regarding it anyway for future reference and curiosity's sake. The main question is that what exactly qualify's a person to make it to and be allowed compete in the nationals? I asume that one must win thier class at a local level but is that all? Also, is it necessary to compete in the "tours" (and what are those?) and is there a prerequisite for entering those as well or is anyone free to enter? Can a person who won locally (assuming that's all it takes) in one class compete in a different one altogether at nationals? Is the same vehicle required to be driven at teh nationals that was used to qualify for it (be it inter or intra-class)?

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Old 11-27-2002, 03:59 AM   #2
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Default Re: A question for those who have competed at SCCA Nationals

This is actually great FAQ material.

The main question is that what exactly qualify's a person to make it to and be allowed compete in the nationals?

Like Corey said, no qualification needed. There's two ways to go about getting into Nationals. One is compete at a tour near you (or far away from you doesn't matter ). By competing at a tour you'll not have to pay the waiver fee if you want to go directly to Nationals. They included the waiver fee for those that had fully intended to go to their local Tour, but for one reason or another, illness, etc... couldn't make it. At one point in time this fee didn't exist, and people were not allowed to go to Nationals because of it. You should still attend a tour as a means to get to Nationals. Besides, it shows how good your regional (not just local) competition is... and it's 2 days of auto-xing. On one or two lists, they're talking about gettnig rid of the waiver again for next year (or 2004) making a tour manditory. Again, that's just a rumor circulating I red a couple months ago just after nationals.

I asume that one must win thier class at a local level but is that all?

No. You can come in DFL every time out. Doesn't matter. Local competion has no bearing on getting to Nationals. What matters is you participate in a Tour.

Also, is it necessary to compete in the "tours" (and what are those?) and is there a prerequisite for entering those as well or is anyone free to enter?

The only pre requisite to get into a Tour is register with the SCCA National HQ and pay the fee. Anyone can play... well, you HAVE TO be an SCCA member. A tour is a great way to meet people from other regions that you normally don't see at local events.
There are 10 tours around the country this year. A National Tour is where many people from the closest Divisions (For exmaple the New England and the Susquahannock Regions are only two of I think 10 regions making up the North East Division) come to compete for a weekend. Three runs on Saturday, Three runs on Sunday. Your best time from Sat and your best time from Sun. are added together and that's your final time.

Can a person who won locally (assuming that's all it takes) in one class compete in a different one altogether at nationals?

Absolutely. Look at the STX winner this year. He was a DS guy until Nationals when we needed help filling the class. I ran in the now defunct ST-R with my RS in '00 and went to Nationals and ran in STS.

Is the same vehicle required to be driven at teh nationals that was used to qualify for it (be it inter or intra-class)?

Nope. Just as you can run in a different class, you can run in a different car too. The point being you ran in a Tour.

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Edit: Clock times are WAY off.... Posted at 8:37AM Eastern Time
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Old 11-27-2002, 06:54 AM   #3
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Jon.

No qualifying of any kind for Nationals. But you will pay an extra "fee" if you haven't competed in a National Tour or ProSolo.

The Tours also have no qualifying prerequisite. I should be at the Ft. Meyers tour in Feb. Hope to see you there, or at least at Rome, NY next year.

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Old 11-27-2002, 08:53 AM   #4
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I wasn't even remotely close to the caliber yet I still went!
I run in a class that only exists in Houston since we have so many ST cars. We took the basically took the SP classes and disallowed race tires. Then there's a catchall unlimited class.
I had to take a few things off the car to be STX eligible, but they were simple items like BOV, and Unichip (one with boost control).

I plan to be back again next year, maybe in one of the yellow Tegs too!
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Old 11-27-2002, 09:06 AM   #5
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Hey KC, are you always going to beat me by 1 spot?

It happened at Englishtown, at the Tour in Rome...

Now even when I post before you, (I was the first reply to this post) your post comes from nowhere and gets in front of mine... What gives?




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Old 11-27-2002, 09:13 AM   #6
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Hey KC, are you always going to beat me by 1 spot?

It happened at Englishtown, at the Tour in Rome...

Now even when I post before you, (I was the first reply to this post) your post comes from nowhere and gets in front of mine... What gives?




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Hahaha. It was a fluke (this time).

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Old 11-27-2002, 11:11 AM   #7
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But you will pay an extra "fee" if you haven't competed in a National Tour or ProSolo.
I don't think a ProSolo counts. You have to run in a National Tour or Divisional event. At least that's how it was this year, from the entry form: "Waiver Fee, $50, Driver who have NOT attended any 2002 Solo II National Tour or Divisional Event." There are many more Divisional than National Tour events, so running in a Divisional is probably the most convenient way to fulfill the requirement.

And yes, if you're not scared of being humbled, you don't have to be fast to compete. I plan to be there next year!
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Old 11-27-2002, 12:06 PM   #8
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Pro Solos are a whole different series with their own finale, the weekend before Nationals in Topeka. If you are going to complete in Pro Solo's, you have to purchase a license if you plan to compete in more than one in a season. If you plan to compete in the Pro Finale, you must compete in a minimum of two regular Pro Solo events during the season (note there is a discussion of adding one more event on each coast and require a minimum of three events.) Points for Pro Solo's are based currently on the best two finishes of your first three events for that class and then the Pro Finale.

There is no seasons points in the National Tours. Whoever wins in Topeka is the National Champ. To qualify, you either compete in one NT or pay the waiver fee.

Anyone can compete, but competition is very fierce at this level. It is not unusual to see the times of the top five finishers in a class only spread over a couple tenths. If that some are separated only by hundredths of a second. And this is over two days combining times from two courses. So you see how close competition can be.

If you come to these events for the first time expecting to do well, you will more than likely be disappointed. Do let this discourage you though, you can learn SOOOOO much coming to these events competing against the best in the country. It will push you to a whole new level in your driving. The people are great as well and very helpful to anyone new to the format.

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Old 11-27-2002, 04:45 PM   #9
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Talking let's be repetitive!

To reiterate : You do not have to do anything to "qualify" for "the big game" (ie., the National Solo2 Championships in Topeka, KS), but if you do not participate in a National Tour or Divisional Solo2 event at some point during the year, then you must pay a waiver fee ($50 in 2002). ProSolos do not count for dismissing the waiver.

In any case, National level events -- Divisionals, National Tours, or the National Championships (and ProSolos too) -- are very fun. It's as much a social experience as it is a competition. Try not to be intimidated -- it's tough the first time out -- because people there [i]will[i/] help you with setup, driving, etc. You just have to ask. Autocrossers are probably the most friendly bunch of motorsports freaks I have been around, and most are more than willing to share their knowledge (maybe not all of it, but a good deal of it).

Like the Nike commercial says, "Just do it."

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