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Old 11-29-2002, 03:38 AM   #1
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Unhappy Higher Octane Needed

Alright, I posted up a messege in the Newbies & FAQs section when I think I should have posted it up in here. I was wondering where in the Bay Area could I get higher Octane than 91? I live in Milpitas/San Jose and I can't find any anywhere. I just found out there's a 76 Gas Station in San Jose that has 100 Octane but i need to double check that tomorrow when I go see the place. But does anyone know any other place where I can get higher Octane than 91? Or if anyone knows where I can get some cheap Octane Boosts. They were telling me I should get Toluene but I went to Kragens and even Orchard Supply and they both said they don't sell Toluene in California anymore. So could someone please help?
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Old 11-29-2002, 03:54 AM   #2
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at my friends shop...they sell 100 Octane. PM me for more info.

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Old 11-29-2002, 05:38 AM   #3
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Or if anyone knows where I can get some cheap Octane Boosts. They were telling me I should get Toluene but I went to Kragens and even Orchard Supply and they both said they don't sell Toluene in California anymore. So could someone please help?
Tuluene is your BEST bang for higher octance. You're looking in the wrong place for Toluene. Visit your local paint shop (sherman williams, etc) and buy 5 gallons bottle (55 gal if you drive alot and need super high octance) so you don't have to visit the paint shop each time before you fill up. Pour about 1 gal in your tank and fill up with 91 octance and you're good. Pour 2 gal and fill up with gas if you're looking for more. Probabiliy cheaper then buying 100 octance at the 76.

**** What you do to your car is your responisblity, (Toluene is a paint thinner) so if you get it on your paint, HAHA. I am not responible for any advise I give that can damage to people's car ****

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Old 11-29-2002, 07:34 PM   #4
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Just an OT question

could our cars RUN on Touline for a short trip if needed? I mean like 20 miles or so to get some gas if u ran out?

Oh, and get it on your paint...YIKES!!!
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Old 11-29-2002, 07:59 PM   #5
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Default I found toluene

WooHoo I finally found it! Kragans and other places told me they don't sell it in California anymore but I found it. Toluene cost about $8 a gallon and about $35 for five gallons. So all you do is mix the right amount with your gas and thats how its done? Anything else I'd have to do?
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Old 11-29-2002, 08:04 PM   #6
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Default Check this thread and do a search on toluene

You might want to look at this other thread that is going right now.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=281630

If you run a search on toluene you'll see threads every month or so.

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Old 12-01-2002, 06:27 AM   #7
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can this damage ur engine if u do it all the time????? And 2 people that are doing this are they running with cats cuz i heard ur cats can get damaged when mixin ur gas with other chemichals (sp)?????
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Old 12-01-2002, 09:19 PM   #8
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It is probably okay for your engine. Toluene and xylene are common both in high octane blends from the oil combanies and in after market octane boosters.

There is a slight unknown about the long term effect of high concentrations of these as far as gasket, o ring and seals are concerned. They are pretty powerful solvents (that is their other common use).

I believe modern cars all should have safe seal materials for these blends, but you may see problems in older cars.

In the 1970's they had a rash of problems with fuel hoses that didn't like alcohol fuel blends but that has long since been rectified. In the process of doing that most fuel system componets went to very stable seal compounds.

MMT additives for octane boost will leave a rusty colored deposit on exhaust valves, spark plugs and cats if used in excess. It appears not to be a problem if used occassionally or at the low concentrations recommended by the manufactures.

The toluene/xylene mixes should not hurt the cats due to any chemical poisoning effect as they are a pure hydrocarbon fuel and are part of many standard gasoline blends.

They can raise your EGT depending on how you are tuned so like any fuel if they run too hot could melt the cat, but that would not be the fault of the fuel, but the tuner for not watching his EGT.


I have no real concern about using them on my car, and I know of a few others that have been doing so for about a year now.

Yes I have been running with all my cats. I just pulled my pre-cat a month ago and saw no signs of problems.

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Old 12-02-2002, 04:19 AM   #9
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Hm... I heard that paint grade toluene is not good for your engine, you need to find higher grade toluene.
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:07 PM   #10
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Hey the only 76 gas station selling 100 octane is on Almaden in San Jose, kinda a ways down from you. But if you really want it go check www.76.com for locations nearest to you or go directly to 76 Gas Station Almaden. Some shops also carry high octane fuel like I think Streetwise in Fremont.
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:23 AM   #11
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There was a guy selling high octane gas at the last SCCA Autocross. He said he would be at the next one. Don't know where he is from though.
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