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Old 12-01-2002, 01:11 PM   #1
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Default STX guys - Go ahead and order your 245's

http://www.scca.org/news/fastrack/03-01.pdf

The SEB has made the recommendation to the BOD that the rule be changed to 245 for STX. I think its safe to buy tires now Mr. Hoppe and KC.

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Old 12-01-2002, 03:04 PM   #2
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Old 12-01-2002, 03:56 PM   #3
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Old 12-01-2002, 04:29 PM   #4
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Maybe I should go into the "rolling fenders" business.

Should be interesting to see these rims+tire combos on some Subarus.

I'll stick with my 205/55R16 Azenis and use the smaller size as another excuse I can't win.

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Old 12-01-2002, 05:28 PM   #5
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245/40/17 KDs for front
225/45/17 KDs for rear



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Old 12-01-2002, 06:37 PM   #6
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What about some 11 pound 15x8 rims?
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Old 12-02-2002, 08:02 AM   #7
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245/40/17 KDs for front
225/45/17 KDs for rear



-Tom
Glad to see they're nice and cheap! 245/40-17 Hoosiers are cheaper!
I think I'll either stick with the 225 Azenis or get some 245/40 Ecsta MX's for now and wait until June/July to see if I'm going to Nationals.
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Old 12-02-2002, 08:08 AM   #8
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What about some 11 pound 15x8 rims?
Find a 245 tire in a 15". Closest I could find is a 245/50-15 Dunlop SP8000. A couple years ago, this was a good tire. But now, it's been passed.

The widest 15" performance tire I could find is a 225.

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Old 12-02-2002, 08:41 AM   #9
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Yup, same thing with 16" wheels. SO3s come in a 235, but they are not going to be a competitive tire.

We will pretty much have to go to 17" wheels to get 245s that will win.

Im still having some issues with the rear tires though. I wonder if the 245/40/17 has any chance in HELL of fitting in the rear of the car. I know the 225/45/17 should fit no problem, but Im a little weary of running the car staggered and worried about the center diff a little. I know of a few people that have stuffed 245/45/17 Kumhos under the car but no one with a 245/40/17.

Anyone here have 225/45/17s with ROTAs that could see how much room there is between the strut and the fender???

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Old 12-02-2002, 10:41 AM   #10
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Tom,

Michilin pilot sport come in a 235. Aren't they Porche OEM? A 245/40/17 should fit the rear (sedan) depending on the strut used
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Old 12-02-2002, 10:51 AM   #11
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As I was saying "competitive" tire that means Azenis and KD

Im using tein coilovers. Car is lowered a bit. Im thinking about just order two tires now. Try them on the rear first. If they don't rub too badly then order two more.

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Old 12-02-2002, 01:19 PM   #12
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[hijack] who's STX #5?? Orion or trhoppe? both of you have #5 STX in your profile thingy... [/hijack]

damn those tires are expensive i'll stick with RE92's for now.
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Old 12-02-2002, 01:26 PM   #13
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Tom,

Please post your "rub test"!

I'm considering the Volk CE-28N's in 17x8 with kd's. I just need to sort out the coil-over situation.

Regards,
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Old 12-02-2002, 01:28 PM   #14
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My car rotates at will. Its all in the suspension setup.
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muahahahahahahaha mayyyybe

Oh, and Im STX #5, Orion just wants to be

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Old 12-02-2002, 01:28 PM   #15
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Just a thought...

Since so many people have posted about how the car doesn't want to rotate, will the fatter 245 rubber call for more dramatic suspension geometry - toe out?

Now we're into the voodoo
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Old 12-02-2002, 01:40 PM   #16
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My car rotates at will. Its all in the suspension setup.
muahahahahahahaha mayyyybe

Oh, and Im STX #5, Orion just wants to be

-Tom
Whatever, just check the 2002 STX Nationals entry list pal....

You snooze, you looze....

OK, so 245 tires are allowed, what wheels are we gonna be putting these bad boys on??? I don't think my 17x7.5's are the optimal rim for a 245/40-17. Heck a 235/40-17 would be a bit much!
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Old 12-02-2002, 02:24 PM   #17
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Ok, now we're talking rolling diameter. The 245/40-17 tire has almost the same rolling diameter as a 225/45-17 or a 205/55-16, which will keep the speedo errors low. (The 245/40 is .6mph slower at 60mph... when the speedo reads 60, you're really going 59.4... the 245/45 with the speado reading 60, you're really going 61.7)

A 245/45-17 will have a higher rolling diameter than a stock rolling diameter... which means it's a taller tire than the rest. For sake of auto-x, it may not be the tire size to have, and in our cases, shouln't be thought about. Only the 245/40-17 is the tire. You *don't* want taller gearing at an auto-x.

Most 245/40's are recommended to be mounted on an 8" rim minimum. (Tire rack lists these under the tire specs)

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Old 12-02-2002, 03:43 PM   #18
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Most 245/40's are recommended to be mounted on an 8" rim minimum. (Tire rack lists these under the tire specs)

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(And #5 at National events comes down to who sends in their payments/registration to national HQ 1st. )
Correct, but what 17x8's are readily available and in what offset? 17x7.5 w/ 48 offset is the most commonly found wheel, but I've seen very few 17x8's.

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Old 12-02-2002, 03:50 PM   #19
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Orion is a bastard.......

I will be stuffing my 245/40/17s on 17x7.5" Rota Attacks with a 48mm offset.

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Orion is a bastard.......

I will be stuffing my 245/40/17s on 17x7.5" Rota Attacks with a 48mm offset.

-Tom
how about i'll run #5 and you can run #105 or vice versa?


that's what I was gonna do with the 245/40 MX's since buying a house makes another set of wheels impossible right now.

too bad Falken won't be introducing new Azenis sizes. i'll be calling them soon since they sponsor my team. maybe we can put a little pressure on them.
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:17 PM   #21
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Correct, but what 17x8's are readily available and in what offset? 17x7.5 w/ 48 offset is the most commonly found wheel, but I've seen very few 17x8's.
I believe Volk makes the TE-37 in 5x100 17x8 ET 45 (also 42 iirc), which IMO should be the ideal wheel for fitting 245s. Plus a baseball bat of course
I cant afford a set of $2k wheels but for those of you who can pay to play, go for it!
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how about i'll run #5 and you can run #105 or vice versa?
100 + number is reserved for codrivers. Im just kidding on the whole #5 thing, I will take anything that has a 5 in it. 5,15,25,55 whatever is free

For me, the price of the KDs makes it impossible for me to buy wheels as well, so I have to stick with the Rotas.

Check out http://www.robsaudiworld.com/fender.htm
for fender rolling. He rents a fender rolling machine. $50 plus shipping both ways. It ends up costing about $75, but I would rather do that then try it with a baseball bat. This way seems much safer and better for me. Im on the list and will have this sucker in raleigh around the end of december

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Old 12-02-2002, 04:49 PM   #23
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100 + number is reserved for codrivers.
exactly my point!

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For me, the price of the KDs makes it impossible for me to buy wheels as well, so I have to stick with the Rotas.

Check out http://www.robsaudiworld.com/fender.htm
for fender rolling. He rents a fender rolling machine. $50 plus shipping both ways. It ends up costing about $75, but I would rather do that then try it with a baseball bat. This way seems much safer and better for me. Im on the list and will have this sucker in raleigh around the end of december

-Tom


lemme know how the roller works out. i'll be running my 225/45 Azenis until they're dead so i've got plenty of time to watch your progress/mistakes!
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exactly my point!
aaaahhhhhh...... :slaps forehead:

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i've got plenty of time to watch your progress/mistakes!
Like I will actually tell people that I make mistakes, all you will see is the progress!!!!!

Example: "I got 245s to work just fine" instead of "after trying 3 different wheels, 3 different tire rollers, blistering my fenders, then repainting, I finally got the damn pos 245s to barely fit"

-Tom
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Tom, after seeing the car we saw and said "ruhroh, rowd ee doo dat?!" with the 245 Kumhos on the car... I'm thinkin a street tire should be narrower section width than a race tire, and those 245/40s will be a slightly shorter tire too, giving you a little extra fender height to play with. I don't see why a 245/40 with rounded shoulders would be more difficult to squish in than a 245/45 with square shoulders.
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