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Old 12-01-2002, 10:05 PM   #1
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Default Exhaust idea, gimme some feedback

Yeah, I'm thinkin' way ahead on my mod list, I'll be lucky if I can afford this within 6 months, but here goes..


Would a good exhaust be a Prodrive WR Sport muffler with custom piping to borla headers? I don't want it to sound ricey, but a nice, mean sound would be good, and I would like it to be pretty quiet at low RPMs. I wouldn't mind some good performance gains, either.
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Old 12-01-2002, 11:01 PM   #2
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You saw what i have on my other thread. Ganzflow, Borla header, and Apex'i 2.5"-3.0"......my car sounds mean......someone last night described it as a V8 crossed with a motorcycle.....personally I don't hear the motorcycle in it (unless he meant the engine revving), and the night before that someone asked my if it was just a 4-cyl. cause it sounded low and grumbly like a V8. I love it...not nasal sounding like most of the Honda's I've heard, much lower. I might be looking into some custom 2.25" or 2.5" piping just to get a little backpressure back until I turbocharge her.
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:31 PM   #3
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yes, you will have an awesome sounding exhaust...

i have the WR sport on my car, and it has that lovely turbo boxer rumble, without being overly rumbly...it almost has a BMW inline 6 low 'hum' to it at the same time. quiet, very low-key looking, but still noticeable enough when you get on it. stomp it when some hondaboy next to you is trying to start something, and it just sounds angry and irritated...kind of like the exhaust equivalent of a doberman that's just been rudely awakened.

i'm hoping to get some borlas breathing into it very soon... i've heard the full borla exhaust plenty of times, and just the thought of that combined with what's already on the car has me salivating.

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Old 12-02-2002, 12:36 PM   #4
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I have the Borla exhaust system except for the headers and I love the way it sounds. More people hate it than love it though quite honestly since it tends to be a bit loud, but like I said. I love it.
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Old 12-02-2002, 12:50 PM   #5
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gee, thanks a lot...just thinking about the borlas made me cave in and order them from ISR...
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Old 12-02-2002, 04:11 PM   #6
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I've actually had some goofy domestic guys ask me if I've had a V8 swap before.
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Old 12-02-2002, 05:26 PM   #7
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I've actually had some goofy domestic guys ask me if I've had a V8 swap before.
Well what exhaust do you have? I really don't want my car to sound like a Mustang. My brother used to have one and it sounded like ****, though he did have flomasters.. Anyways, is the V8 sound a good one?
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:43 AM   #8
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It's not quite the same as a V-8...just sounds similar,and it's the easiest way to describe it....i.e the low ground thumping grumble......I'd suggest finding someone with the stuff on their car and hear it. I don't think a wav file would do the sound justice. It is much meaner/cooler sounding in person. Then again maybe I'm biased.
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Old 12-03-2002, 12:51 AM   #9
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It seems like anything you do to modify the boxer will make it deep and rumbly sounding. The only variable is the loudness.

Let me illustrate:

Buy a high-flow catback. Now she sounds like a V8.
Buy a Prodrive axleback. Now she sounds like a quiet V8.
Disconnect your axleback. Now she sounds like a loud V8.

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Old 12-12-2002, 08:59 AM   #10
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Cobreth -- after living with my new borla/prodrive setup for almost a week now, and i can wholeheartedly reccommend it. it's every thing i described below, but the headers take it to a whole new level of bliss...it adds the wonderfully threatening rumble a WRX with a straight through "muffler" (like a tanabe/apex'i) makes while engine braking. it's a bit louder than before outside the car, but still nowhere near being LOUD. inside at cruise, the car is actually quieter. now i just need to get the random hi-flow cat and a stromung SS midpipe to replace this WRX one...

yeah, i don't get where the V8 comparison comes from either...just imagine the nice deep growl of an older aircooled 911 (minus the clattering) crossed with the sharper exhaust pulses of a BMW flat twin...
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Old 12-13-2002, 03:55 PM   #11
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Best overall exhaust for a N/A RS would be a stromung 2.25 catback with a random gen4 high flow cat.

The borla header is a waste of money unless you are trying to save weight.It does nothing.
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Old 12-13-2002, 04:40 PM   #12
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Best overall exhaust for a N/A RS would be a stromung 2.25 catback with a random gen4 high flow cat.

The borla header is a waste of money unless you are trying to save weight.It does nothing.
flat out, it doesn't feel much faster, but the improvement in the midrange is noticeable, and the engine runs much smoother...then again the stock manifold on my car was probably an older, less efficient design than the OEM EJ25's.

but yes, if you're looking for big gains throughout, you'll be better off coughing up the bucks for the brullens or the TWE headers. now all i need is the random tech to remove that last bottleneck...
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Old 12-13-2002, 05:05 PM   #13
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flat out, it doesn't feel much faster, but the improvement in the midrange is noticeable, and the engine runs much smoother...then again the stock manifold on my car was probably an older, less efficient design than the OEM EJ25's.

but yes, if you're looking for big gains throughout, you'll be better off coughing up the bucks for the brullens or the TWE headers. now all i need is the random tech to remove that last bottleneck...
I had the Brullens before I got the Borla.

They are twice as useless as the borla.

No power gain whatsoever and the low quality ceramic coat and assembly cause several install issues as well as leaks.
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Old 12-14-2002, 04:41 PM   #14
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I've got the MRT setup with a leak between the cat and midpipe... sound like a pissed off Subaru to me.
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Old 12-16-2002, 08:29 AM   #15
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I had the Brullens before I got the Borla.

They are twice as useless as the borla.

No power gain whatsoever and the low quality ceramic coat and assembly cause several install issues as well as leaks.
well, at least my headers are only useless X 1...
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Best Performance/Cheapest - MRT with Straight through muffler

Best Sound - Borla Headers/Random Tech Cat/Stromung(or other) Cat Back

Seems like nothing compares to those un-equel length Borla Headers. Definitely different then any other 4 cylinder exhaust I have heard.

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Old 12-16-2002, 04:29 PM   #17
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For sound, looks, weight, ease of installation, customer support, and price I say go with Borla.

I cant say enough good about them.

Performance wise no header will make a worthwhile increase in power on a N/A 2.5.Its impossible to get the correct size and length primaries because the ports of each engine bank are too far from each other.
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Old 12-16-2002, 05:03 PM   #18
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For sound, looks, weight, ease of installation, customer support, and price I say go with Borla.

I cant say enough good about them.

Performance wise no header will make a worthwhile increase in power on a N/A 2.5.Its impossible to get the correct size and length primaries because the ports of each engine bank are too far from each other.
gotcha...just glad i didn't cough up another $100 + shipping for a used set of brullens.

like i said...the main reason i got them was the lovely sound. call me superficial/phony/ricey if you will...

my gas mileage does seem to be a bit better though...on a 200mi trip this weekend at a constant 90 (4000rpm in 5th), i managed a hair over 30mpg.
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