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Old 12-03-2002, 12:10 PM   #1
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Talking Stromung Dual Tip SS - SWEEEEEET!

This exhuast is better than I thought. It eneven looks better in person.
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Old 12-03-2002, 01:27 PM   #2
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NOT FOR SALE. Our SUBARU Master Tech said, stick with the 2.5inch Pipe. He said it doesn't spool the Turbo up as fast with the 3inch.
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:07 PM   #3
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NOT FOR SALE. Our SUBARU Master Tech said, stick with the 2.5inch Pipe. He said it doesn't spool the Turbo up as fast with the 3inch.
Chris-

I'm glad you just said it's not 4-sale. I just orderd one myself. The Dual Tip SS and third cat eliminator.

How di you like your system so far?

It looked like you were going to get rid of it for a min...

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P.S. Who is the SUBARU Master Tech and how much does he charge for work???
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Old 12-03-2002, 03:13 PM   #4
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I don't even have it? Stromung said they shipped it last Wednesday? We are now at Tuesday. I have emailed them, called them, Am about ready to cancell them I like that rap. I don't know what to do?

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Old 12-03-2002, 04:09 PM   #5
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have you spoken to Scott at Stromung? When I ordered mine they lost my first order I almost cancelled but I stuck with it...and it was worth it.
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Old 12-03-2002, 04:25 PM   #6
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If you were running a full exhaust system I think 3" would be better, but with just the catback you dont really need over 2.5"
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Old 12-03-2002, 04:31 PM   #7
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From http://www.spdusa.com/exhaust.htm

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With Strömung units, the rear section kit alone will provide approximately 20 ft-lbs torque improvement from 3200 rpm, about 3-400 rpm earlier spool-up than the stock exhaust. The horse power gain is about 10-12hp all the way to 7000 rpm. These are significant numbers, especially considering the motor will not code or otherwise run improperly. It really brightens up the motor.

We use a 2.5 inch diameter pipe that is capable of flowing 300hp. We could use three inch, but it is not wanted a normal road car setup. We found that the earlier spool-up of the turbo was lost with 3 inch pipe without any gain on the top end. This is a serious flaw to using 3 inch pipe. We give away too much power below 4500 rpm for no additional gain on the top end.

Just like when we choose to run the RS 2.5 motor on 2.25 inch pipe, we have selected 2.5 inch as a practical pipe size for the US WRX engine that is known to do the job. We offer smooth mandrel bent mid and front pipe sections, the latter eliminating the third cat for track sessions. Combined with the higher muffler flow, it also aids the top end power. It is a very simple solution. By lowering the pressure after the turbocharger we are able to get a larger pressure delta over the turbine blades giving more power. The front cat pipe improves power from 6000-7000 range, but it is keeping the 2.5 diameter and the change of the rear pipe that provides the low end torque.

The main CAT that you can see off the turbo is not a restriction under 300hp, so we ask everyone a) leave it on, and 2) do not lust after a larger unit as it is not a problem. The same CAT we have is on the 280hp STI Japan cars. Leave it there. If we had 100 octane gas I would be selling them all day long! But our gas flow at 250hp is not critical with the turbo main CAT in place. We do offer a larger capacity main Cat down pipe if needed.

We have removed the front pre-cat and found the motor makes slightly more power, but needs to have a new ECU setup for the engine to run properly. Given the expense, the limitation of our 91/93 octane gas and the fact that the transmission is rated for 250hp, we advise taking a wait and see attitude towards further modification. Just like the Mass Flow sensor failures of 1999 2.5 RS when fitted with filter kits, we are waiting to see how reliable higher power levels are with pipe, turbo and ecu changes. This issue is discussed in greater detail elsewhere in the site (Big Power) (WRX Engine)
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Old 12-04-2002, 11:32 AM   #8
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Lowball you were right. Just be paitence and wait. It was well worth it. I just got the Axle Back for right now. I will leave the stock resenator in, then upgrade everthing else. We might start stocking these at MAITA SUBARU.

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Old 12-04-2002, 11:35 AM   #9
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The Subaru Master Tech is Toby Costa. They are real Anal about doing work afterwards. I struggle just to get things done after work. I understand, I don't wont to be there any longer than I need to be.
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Old 12-04-2002, 04:43 PM   #10
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Lowball you were right. Just be paitence and wait. It was well worth it. I just got the Axle Back for right now. I will leave the stock resenator in, then upgrade everthing else. We might start stocking these at MAITA SUBARU.

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So Chris...you work at Maita Subaru???

Do you know how much they charge per/hr. for labor installs?

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Old 12-04-2002, 04:44 PM   #11
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Give me a call at work at 2pm. I will be there. let me know what you want install. Yes, I work at MAITA SUBARU 486-8000

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Old 12-04-2002, 07:23 PM   #12
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Chris,

I just called you over there, but I guess you were busy with a customer. My wife and I might come by tonight to look at a Legacy. I wanted to see what you guys have. Plus, I haven't seen your car in a while...

Lowball,

Hey, I don't know if you remember me, but I talked to you a few weeks ago about getting a ride in your Tein-equipped wagon. I've been wwwaaaaay busy at work so haven't had the chance to call ya. Hope it's still cool if I call you soon.

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Old 12-04-2002, 09:00 PM   #13
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I just called you over there, but I guess you were busy with a customer. My wife and I might come by tonight to look at a Legacy. I wanted to see what you guys have. Plus, I haven't seen your car in a while...

Lowball,

Hey, I don't know if you remember me, but I talked to you a few weeks ago about getting a ride in your Tein-equipped wagon. I've been wwwaaaaay busy at work so haven't had the chance to call ya. Hope it's still cool if I call you soon.

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Chris (the hijacker)-

Yeah I remember you Mang! Anytime...just call me and we can hookup...Fridays would work best for me...

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Old 12-04-2002, 09:14 PM   #14
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I will be curious as to what your impressions are of this system after you get it ... and install it. 10-12 hps hmm not bad

I am curious about sound levels as well. For me a loud exahaust buzzing the ears would not be worth it. Hopefully you will show up at some meet after you get it installed and I can check it out!!!
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:32 PM   #15
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I will be curious as to what your impressions are of this system after you get it ... and install it. 10-12 hps hmm not bad

I am curious about sound levels as well. For me a loud exahaust buzzing the ears would not be worth it. Hopefully you will show up at some meet after you get it installed and I can check it out!!!
Yeah I hear what your saying...I did a lot of check around before I went and ordered mine...According to SPD, and others, the Prodrive is very quite but still gives you the hps and that the Strömung is a bit louder but not crazy rice loud. I should be getting mine next week and will also chim in as to my like or dislike of the sound and performance...

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Old 12-05-2002, 03:48 AM   #16
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Stromung is more like a muscle car trob, its not whiney at all. It can drone alot when cruising, but I think they sound mean as tr uck
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Old 12-05-2002, 10:28 AM   #17
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Hey, LowBall. Did I tell you? Am moving To Antelope. Should be there sometime around Janauary. Bought a house there. After 3 days of this new Stromung, it keeps sounding better and better. Am glad i got rid of that over priced STI Exhaust.

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Old 12-05-2002, 12:30 PM   #18
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is Kostamojen's description of the sound about corrrect? Is it like you are driving a V8 muscle car? When you are at highway speeds do you or your passengers gotta say "eh?" or "what did you say?"


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Old 12-05-2002, 08:42 PM   #19
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No No No No No. It does not sound like a V8. Windows up, very pleasent sound, you can still hold a conversation at normal level. It has a very deep rumble sound to it. Much nicer than the STI. If I were you, I would leave the stock resonator on. It might just be a bit to loud. I left mine on, and my wife really likes it. I was very concerned about her and the exhaust sound. PASSED With flying colors!

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Old 12-05-2002, 08:46 PM   #20
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After I put on my Stromung I did the "Wife Test"...Her reply "Sounds a lot better than all those Hondas" ... ... ... PASSED!
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Old 12-05-2002, 10:39 PM   #21
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Hey Chris i towed my car into your dealership a couple weeks ago and saw you walk by i didnt know if you remembered me so i just gave you a smile but yeah my car is still there its the silver RS with the CF hood and gunmetal tarmacs with transmission issues, unfortunately my car is not covered under warranty due to abuse so i have no choice but to buy a new tranny and have you guys service it
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Old 12-06-2002, 12:40 AM   #22
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Yeah, I do remember you. Sweet looking 2.5RS! I noticed your trunk, did you have a wing on it at once? What kind of exhaust do you have?

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Old 12-06-2002, 03:34 AM   #23
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Yes i did have a wing but i took it off cause im not a spoiler type of person, as far as my exhaust its an Apexi N1....
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Old 12-06-2002, 07:04 PM   #24
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Hey, LowBall. Did I tell you? Am moving To Antelope. Should be there sometime around Janauary. Bought a house there. After 3 days of this new Stromung, it keeps sounding better and better. Am glad i got rid of that over priced STI Exhaust.

Chris
That is SWEET! I've only see about two other WRX's in the neighborhood. A silver sedan and a blue wagon (brand new), and then me with the Black Wag!!!!! So once you get here we will only be missing yellow and red...LOL

BTW...My exhaust just came today in the mail!!!!!!! dual tip S.S. muffler and 3rd cat eliminator pipe!!! OMG I can't weight to put it on tomorrow...

The wife is going to Reno so I won't have to worry about that...just passing the wife test as well when she gets back...LOL

Maybe you got a house in my developement...Richmond American.

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No No No No No. It does not sound like a V8. Windows up, very pleasent sound, you can still hold a conversation at normal level. It has a very deep rumble sound to it. Much nicer than the STI. If I were you, I would leave the stock resonator on. It might just be a bit to loud. I left mine on, and my wife really likes it. I was very concerned about her and the exhaust sound. PASSED With flying colors!

Chris
Chris-

Did you do the install your self or at the Dealer (since you work there and all...LOL).

Lucky Dog!!!!!

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