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Old 12-03-2002, 11:29 PM   #1
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I just purchased a PDM intake, ive read that some 99 RS owners have blown their maf sensor after installing the intake.
the new age wrx has been mentioned a few times also.
Just wanna hear from some 02/03 owners if they have had any problems with this intake.

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Old 12-03-2002, 11:43 PM   #2
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Hey David, currently at 18000km, and have been running it with a K&N filter since 5000km with no issues.

Don't expect any major performance increases (would add more when combined with a cat-back and cams), but it makes the engine purr at higher RPMs.

If you want to see it installed and hear it on an 02 TS auto, let me know and we can meet.

PS - most of the MAF issues on the RS related to an older style MAF that was recalled. In addition, the PDM CAI doesn't require the removal of the stock airbox, which was also another cause relating to failed MAFS.

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Old 12-04-2002, 12:00 AM   #3
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00-03 use a MAP, not a MAF.
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Old 12-04-2002, 12:05 AM   #4
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Doug,

Its good to hear that you have had no problems with it all the way to 18000km!
I dont expect it to give me good gains, i like it for the noise!!
anyway, i will be getting my k&n filter tommorow.
ANother question to you is.. I took a look under the hood and the fender gap didnt look very wide, i dont see how i can put a filter in there without taking off the front quarter panel.

if you can give me some info on how you put yours in, that would be very helpful!

thanks.
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Old 12-04-2002, 12:45 AM   #5
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er... K&N filter goes in the air box, you're talking about a cone filter, and I don't think you should be using that with the PDM intake...
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Old 12-04-2002, 12:49 AM   #6
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oh... sorry i dont know much about this stuff.
thanks, ashtaron14.
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:02 AM   #7
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there are no more maf problems post MY99 as far as i know. =)
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:16 AM   #8
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oh... sorry i dont know much about this stuff.
thanks, ashtaron14.
K&N filter wise, the one you want is the same size as the one in your air box, I forgot the part number, but I got mind at Lordco... it's all good
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:17 AM   #9
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If u want noise, get an open air intake or short ram.. or whatever they call it this week. Those are the ones that use cone filters.
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:22 AM   #10
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Thanks Bruno, I wasn't aware of this.

David, pics of the CAI installed (and stock intake you remove) at the following link half way down page 1.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=intake

Part number for the K&N for the TS is 33-2154.
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:41 AM   #11
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thanks dudes!!

Doug, i think thats the one i ordered today at lordco. Thanks for the part number.

damn that injen one looks so sweet!!!!! does the injen have a cone filter or no?

Ooter: that pdm one looks dope in those pics!!
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:48 AM   #12
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The Injen uses a cone filter, therefore the stock air box has to be removed. When researching, I decided to go with PDM for the fact it is less money, and that by removing the factory airbox you may run into further possibilities of warranty claims being denied.

Before you install, you should understand that any mod could cause certain warranty claims being denied if the mod is proven to be the cause of a fault. The PDM CAI does however require less changes to the factory setup than the Injen style intake.

Pic of the Injen, but not the exact model for the RS/TS.

http://www.overboost.com/obs/product.asp?pid=19891
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:54 AM   #13
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I have been using injen form March 02 no problem
injen have a cone filter, it goes right behind the foglight in the bumper
BTW much better than PDM
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:57 AM   #14
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what kind of damages can a CAI cause?
only thing i can think of is water getting through
but the pdm intake pipe is placed at a fair level... hopefully no water will fly up from the little bumper holes and into the pipe..
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Old 12-04-2002, 02:02 AM   #15
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Water is the main issue, but I have no evidence of water getting in and I have checked after heavy rains and driving through deep puddles.

The stock snorkel has a few chambers that direct water that may get by in to a small drain hole at the bottom. The PDM is a straight pipe with no where for moisture to escape if it does get in.

I figure even if a bit of water did get in, it would have to get by the intake (which gets very warm from the engine heat) and through the air filter before causing any damage. I don't see it being a concern at all, but the possibility always exists.
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Old 12-04-2002, 02:02 AM   #16
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I have been using injen form March 02 no problem
injen have a cone filter, it goes right behind the foglight in the bumper
BTW much better than PDM
i was going to go with the injen before, but the only places i found it at were revoltion for $440, and A&J for $475 i cant justify spending over 500 w taxes on an intake.
i have read a few reviews and havent read anything negitive on pdm's intake, so i thought why not.
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Old 12-04-2002, 02:06 AM   #17
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On another topic, my thoughts are the extra cash could be much better spent on a Whiteline rear 18-22 swaybar with brackets and links. So far, the swaybar is the best spent $$$ on my TS.

AllWheelDrift, thanks for the swaybar preaching!!!
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Old 12-04-2002, 02:19 AM   #18
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I get it about 450 with tax

Edit: keep in mind that is from March and I get it from Bavaria
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Old 12-04-2002, 03:15 PM   #19
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I'm a noob when it comes to mods and such but can't you cut the PDM intake in half so you can fit an AEM by pass valve between the 2 halves?? It seem like a good idea.
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Old 12-04-2002, 05:01 PM   #20
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yes a bypass valve is a good idea just in case of hydrolock ,the chances of getting a snorkel full of water is rare ,butt could still happen.
those weapon R short intakes are pretty sweet too
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Old 12-04-2002, 08:45 PM   #21
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ok, i installed my pdm intake today.
went for a drive afterwards and noticed there isnt much of a difference!? it gets a tiny bit deeper after 3k rpm.

I didnt put in the K&N drop in filter, is there a big difference if i put in the new filter?
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:30 PM   #22
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In general, getting an intake alone don't do jack all. Since you're changing the breathing characteristic of the engine, you need to get adjustable cam gears and new exhaust to tune it. In some case, you may make the engine weaker.
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