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Old 12-05-2002, 01:48 AM   #1
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has anyone bought a muffler off of ebay? some of them look real good, but i'm weary,since they're replicas, or are a certain "style". would they fit on the MRT headers-back set-up? what type of gains? not too ricey? any opinions would be appreciated. thank you.
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Old 12-05-2002, 03:09 AM   #2
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Ebay makes mufflers now?!

(you need to specify the brands that are for sale, or at least post a link or two for reference)
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Old 12-05-2002, 09:56 AM   #3
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sorry, i didn't mean to generalize. but all these blah-blah "style" mufflers always make me wonder. they're not the real thing, but i was wonderiing how the quality was. here are some of the links of the ones i'm talking about.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1873741152

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1873757442

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1874037845

i know i've been posting alot about mufflers lately, but i want something nice to go with my MRT headers-back, and i'm thinking about getting something better than my MRT muffler. thanks guys
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Old 12-05-2002, 01:19 PM   #4
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1873851467

got me one of those

got it from procarparts tho


excelent quality, didn't come w/ any hangers or anything

weighs like 18 lbs

it's basicaly an obx dtm muffler, identical in every way i can tell except much cheaper, and no obx stamp...

100% stainless, was a bitch to find a shop that would weld hangers on, and weld the non stainless exhaust to the muffler tho
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Old 12-05-2002, 01:44 PM   #5
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well heres my 2cents.
The reason why mufflers are either cheap or expensive is what they are made of and the company. You pay for the cost to make plus mark up plus name. Cheap mufflers are usually filled with cotton only or fiberglass, this makes a good sound for a couple thousand miles than it starts to sound raspy (a.k.a. ricey) because the cotton withers away fast.
Good construction of a muffler ups its starting price. Most companys make a cheap muffler so its easier to move.
than the name adds but not too much.
so i guess i'm saying reserch the product before you blow your money.
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Old 12-05-2002, 05:35 PM   #6
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on an n/a street car, especially awd, there will be like a 2 whp difference between the best money can buy and a cheap straight through muffler with some custom piping. personally id rather lose that 2 extra hp (whoop dee doo) and save a couple hundred bucks, plus you get to choose any style of muffler and any mounting position and angle you want. just my opinion.
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Old 12-06-2002, 01:44 AM   #7
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on an n/a street car, especially awd, there will be like a 2 whp difference between the best money can buy and a cheap straight through muffler with some custom piping. personally id rather lose that 2 extra hp (whoop dee doo) and save a couple hundred bucks, plus you get to choose any style of muffler and any mounting position and angle you want. just my opinion.
Also known as "Pull me over NOW" mufflers
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Old 12-06-2002, 10:38 PM   #8
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I also bought one of those DTM "style" mufflers off of ebay and am very satisfied. It seems to be made almost entirely out of stainless steel, has a straight thru flow design, and sounds very deep and rally car like. I've had it on my car for about 8 months now and notice the engine has an easier time in the higher RPM range, as for net power, I can't vouch for any exact numbers, but I'm just happy also that it hasn't rusted a bit in the chicago weather (except for the cheapo hangers that the shop welded on)
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Old 12-06-2002, 10:47 PM   #9
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Also known as "Pull me over NOW" mufflers
not in arkansas
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:15 PM   #10
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jasona: you are dead wrong. there is a huge difference between my custom exhaust with headers and just my catback stromung. the stromung pulls much harder and revs much smoother than the custom.
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Old 12-07-2002, 05:35 PM   #11
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dyno proof is about the only way to quantify what exhaust does better as none really provide huge gains... build quality is where one will shine. IIRC stromung actually hold up poorly, even the stainless rusts...
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Old 12-07-2002, 06:43 PM   #12
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jasona: you are dead wrong. there is a huge difference between my custom exhaust with headers and just my catback stromung. the stromung pulls much harder and revs much smoother than the custom.
sorry, but i find that hard to believe. maybe the piping on your custom was too oversized? or just placebo effect not trying to bash you, i just have a hard time believing that.
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Old 12-09-2002, 11:39 PM   #13
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OK, so my plan is to do a custom piping, header back exhaust set-up. I'm probably going to go with an ebay mufller, it's tough to beat $50. My main question is, what would be the best diameter for the piping? I was thinking 2.5 inches. Also, are any of the ebay mufflers better or worse than the others.

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Old 12-10-2002, 07:57 AM   #14
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2.25" piping...

if the muffler has a 2.5 inlet (most common size on ebay), it's okay, the shop will take care of things... just tell them you want it 2.25...
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Old 12-10-2002, 12:21 PM   #15
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thanks for the info. Also, is there any magical phrase that will get a muffler shop to build me something that is catless? I was thiinking that I'd just promise to only use it at the track.
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thanks for the info. Also, is there any magical phrase that will get a muffler shop to build me something that is catless? I was thiinking that I'd just promise to only use it at the track.
i know people that have gotten straight pipes w/o a muffler, so i bet you could probably just ask and get a track only cat replacement pipe. make it bolt on, then you can have it either way...
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Old 12-10-2002, 04:44 PM   #17
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take a sawzall or something and cut it off right before the cat at home, then take it to them. they might not be allowed to remove your cat, but if you dont have a cat in the 1st place when you take it to them...
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Old 12-10-2002, 09:30 PM   #18
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I've seen one of the local muffler places turn people away because they don't have a cat on the car. This guy is probably just being extra anal, but he says it's a $5,000 fine if he's caught working on the car. I don't know if that's a federal law or a local/state law here in Oklahoma. It's actually kinda funny because we don't even have inspections here anymore.

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Old 12-11-2002, 03:42 PM   #19
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it's a FEDERAL law. you can't mess with a catalytic converter in any way shape or form unless it needs replacement. there's also some kind of limit on minimum mileage before you can replace a functioning one as well (50K?). we don't have inspection or emissions here either, but go into any muffler shop, and they have it all over on big signs. don't ask them to tamper with or remove them, or work on a car without one.

if you want a cat-less *ahem* "track" pipe, go to a race fab shop and have them make you one.
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Old 12-11-2002, 04:18 PM   #20
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50K is the magic milage number, BUT there is no reason not to go with a high flow unit -vs- a track pipe. Don't get me wrong, most are way overpriced but if you do your homework you can get one delivered new for under $100. The subaru OE cats are actually 2 different catalysts so you cannot just remove one and still pass emissions. You must remove both and have a 3 or 4 way high flow unit put in its place.
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Old 12-12-2002, 10:42 AM   #21
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or you could move somewhere decent.... (no emmisions)

and a broomstick works just fine
and a friend who can weld a piece of pipe through the original cat housing, so on visual inspection it looks good, and thaty's all that matters....
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