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Old 12-07-2002, 02:57 PM   #1
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Question For those of you who are BOOSTED....got ?

First off all, I don't own a Subaru, I'm just here to learn more about your cars.

My car is supercharged and when the temps get hot (85 & above), it becomes a little sluggish. Now, when it starts to get cold, my car performs much better.

My question to you guys: How do your cars fair with different temps? Does it really matter to a Turboed car? I had a Turbo Supra years ago but I used to put it away for the winter so I never knew how it would take to really cold weather.

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Old 12-07-2002, 03:17 PM   #2
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colder air = dencer oxygen = more power.
Its the same for n/a, turbo and supercharged. But what sucks around here is how our gas turns to crap (winter blend) so all the fun with the colder air is mostly taken away with the crap gas. BTW, what forums are all of you guys from? I am looking for a few domestic parts
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:20 PM   #3
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colder air = dencer oxygen = more power.
Its the same for n/a, turbo and supercharged. But what sucks around here is how our gas turns to crap (winter blend) so all the fun with the colder air is mostly taken away with the crap gas. BTW, what forums are all of you guys from? I am looking for a few domestic parts
-Neal
Winer Blend?? Holy ****- I didn't know this.

I'm part of ClubGP (www.clubgp.com) and www.chicagograndprix.net (which derived from ClubGP)

What are you looking for and what kind of car?
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:27 PM   #4
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I am looking for nonbeat up eaton M62 and a eaton M90
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:38 PM   #5
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oh geez-half of your problem comes from the fact that hot weather combined with a non intercooler M90(i think that's what the 97+ models got) causes intake air temps to soar. You can only make so much heat before the car runs like garbage...Turbo'ed vehicles w/ intercoolers don't feel the heat as much. there are easy wasy to compensate for it such as N20 onto the intercooler, CO2 onto the intercooler and also you can run water injection just as well, nothing like an ice cold shot of water right at the throttle plate to help control detonation and make a arse load of power. Not to mention you can always upgrade the Intercooler to a unit which a much larger core i.e.: better cooling effiency.

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Old 12-07-2002, 03:39 PM   #6
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yeah, what he said.
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:41 PM   #7
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the water injection refer's to your car as well, it wasn't stated very clearly. it's before 3:30 pm my mind isn't functioning yet
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:50 PM   #8
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We have plenty of non-suby owners who have joined the board.









They are all dead......but they joined the board!

P.S. You will find some damn bright people here, with no attitude.

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Old 12-07-2002, 04:10 PM   #9
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oh geez-half of your problem comes from the fact that hot weather combined with a non intercooler M90(i think that's what the 97+ models got) causes intake air temps to soar. You can only make so much heat before the car runs like garbage...Turbo'ed vehicles w/ intercoolers don't feel the heat as much. there are easy wasy to compensate for it such as N20 onto the intercooler, CO2 onto the intercooler and also you can run water injection just as well, nothing like an ice cold shot of water right at the throttle plate to help control detonation and make a arse load of power. Not to mention you can always upgrade the Intercooler to a unit which a much larger core i.e.: better cooling effiency.

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Jeremy,
Unfortunately our cars are not intercooled. They do sell an intercooler though- but I'm not willing to drop $2400. on one.



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I am looking for nonbeat up eaton M62 and a eaton M90
-Neal
Neal, I'll start a new thread at ClubGP and see what I can do.

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They are all dead......but they joined the board!

P.S. You will find some damn bright people here, with no attitude.

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I'm sure most of you are kool. It only takes a couple of trolls to go hoping over to other forums and start talking smack. My club has a few trouble makers too.

Thanks for the info guys. Look forward to learning more about your cars.
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Old 12-07-2002, 04:44 PM   #10
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Have you asked about having someone make you a custom intercooler? It might run you less than $2400 stacks. Make it a front mount though.
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Old 12-07-2002, 06:08 PM   #11
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You can't front mount intercool a roots type blower. The GTP's blower mountsa directly to the manifold - well you could, but it would require some really wild engineering and a lot of $$$.
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Old 12-07-2002, 06:25 PM   #12
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You can't front mount intercool a roots type blower. The GTP's blower mountsa directly to the manifold - well you could, but it would require some really wild engineering and a lot of $$$.
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ohgeez-i know the currenty 3800 series 2 engines are not intercooled, i was trying to show why these cars don't suffer from the heat as much. the series 1 was however in the bonivlles...yamarocket was it a side mount m62 or top mount??

obyone-you'd have to redesign the intake manifold to fit and air/water intercooler in, the blower is bolted right to the lower intake plenum.

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Old 12-08-2002, 11:28 AM   #13
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You can't front mount intercool a roots type blower. The GTP's blower mountsa directly to the manifold - well you could, but it would require some really wild engineering and a lot of $$$.
Naw, I think I'll add a few more mods to get me in the low 13s and leave it at that. My car has a lot of miles on it and I'm not going to beat the crap out of it.

Next summer I might looking for a MKIV Turbo Supra for my weekend toy. I had a 91' , slightly modded, and that car was fun.

BTW, if any of you Chicago guys ever see a Black GTP coupe with blue badging, give me a holler. I'd like to see a little more of the WRXs and go for a ride. My girlfriend (future wife) will be looking for a new car next year and I'd like to give her some feedback.

Here' a pic of my car- if you happen to spot me.


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Old 12-08-2002, 01:36 PM   #14
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Naw, I think I'll add a few more mods to get me in the low 13s and leave it at that. My car has a lot of miles on it and I'm not going to beat the crap out of it.
That's a good strategy. The differentials in the GTPs grenade pretty quickly once the cars are in the low 13s to high 12s area. GM didn't leave enough space in the transmission for a beefy diff, and little stocker and the aftermarket LSDs that will fit in the spot just can't take much more than 300lb-ft.

If you want big explanantion, go to http://www.thrashercharged.com/tech_...ferential.shtm

The L67 is a marvel. If GM would put a more stout transmission on that engine, we'd have another Grand National class car on our hands.
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Old 12-08-2002, 03:06 PM   #15
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IIRC all the supercharged 3800's have been top mounted S/C.
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Old 12-08-2002, 03:25 PM   #16
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IIRC all the supercharged 3800's have been top mounted S/C.
weird, i'm gonna have to see if i can find some info on the intercooler system of the Series 1 supercharged engines, i always thought they were top mounted as well but i was thinking about the intercooler situation....hmmm unless i am mistaken and there were no intercooled Series 1 3800's.

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